Player Watch Player Watch: Ryan Sessegnon

[Deleted member 27995]

Yes and the others have to leave first that was my point.

Who has to leave so we can sign Lo Celso?

 

[Lilbaz]

Who has to leave so we can sign Lo Celso?

Nobody. But as things stand this moment we are stronger than when the window opened. You saying we have a lot of work to do makes it sound like we are weaker.

Forget about it.

 

[Trix]

Long way to go before we make enough signings to call it a revolution.

Why would we want revolution?

 

[dtxspurs]

We just need to strengthen, who gives a fuck what we call it.

We’ve brought in one first team player so far. 3 weeks left in the window but with huge clouds hanging over two of our better players with little other rumors surrounding anyone not named Lo Celso or Sessegnon I think it’s fair people are concerned. There’s still time of course but we’ve all been here before.

 

[Lilbaz]

We just need to strengthen, who gives a fuck what we call it.

We’ve brought in one first team player so far. 3 weeks left in the window but with huge clouds hanging over two of our better players with little other rumors surrounding anyone not named Lo Celso or Sessegnon I think it’s fair people are concerned. There’s still time of course but we’ve all been here before.

Ok so we sign lo celso and sessegnon. That would be what £170m spent? You must have realised we'd need to sell some? Depending on what we get we may buy more.

 

[mil1lion]

So far we've only sold 1 right back when we had 3 and we've made a top signing in centre midfield. That's smart work, sell from an overloaded position and sign in a position that needed strenghtening. A lot of people are worrying about 'what if we sell..' but we're also strongly linked with incomings too. Just because players are available it doesn't mean they'll be sold, only if we get incomings first. Last summer we signed nobody so didn't sell anyone either. The Lo Celso and Sess transfers seem closer to happening than any other outgoings so far.

 

[WiganSpur]

We just need to strengthen, who gives a fuck what we call it.

We’ve brought in one first team player so far. 3 weeks left in the window but with huge clouds hanging over two of our better players with little other rumors surrounding anyone not named Lo Celso or Sessegnon I think it’s fair people are concerned. There’s still time of course but we’ve all been here before.

2 more players in than I was expecting at this point to be fair. Think it will just be Sessegnon and Lo Celso with Eriksen, Rose and Toby the main outgoings.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

We just need to strengthen, who gives a fuck what we call it.

We’ve brought in one first team player so far. 3 weeks left in the window but with huge clouds hanging over two of our better players with little other rumors surrounding anyone not named Lo Celso or Sessegnon I think it’s fair people are concerned. There’s still time of course but we’ve all been here before.

Everything's fine though, stay positive!

Agree with everything you've said here.

 

[dtxspurs]

Everything's fine though, stay positive!

Agree with everything you've said here.

Are we best friends again?

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Are we best friends again?

Nah, but we're singing from the same hymn sheet at the moment.

 

[WiganSpur]

Assuming Rose and Toby are sold and Dier, Davies, Sessegnon, and Aurier are not yet available due to their injuries/operations, we could legitimately be looking at this back line (from left to right) until Foyth's suspension is up:

Vertonghen -- Sanchez -- CCV -- KWP

That is absolutely fucking dire. I understand that we've got to build the squad with a long-term vision in mind, but if we have to play the first two matches of the season with that back line I think it's fair to say that we simply do not have the necessary squad depth. We cannot realistically expect players already in the squad to replace both Trippier and Toby, and to have a teenager who hasn't played left back since 2017 be our Rose replacement. We would need at least one senior defender to come in.

I don't think you can complain too much about the centre backs. If Toby leaves we will still have 4 perfectly capable centre halves. We're not going to be able to sign anyone who would be an improvement on Dier with the other business that needs doing.

At right back we'd have 2 players. Aurier who imo was fine last season and performed better than Trippier, as well as KWP where a lot of this forum has been clamouring for him to be given more opportunities.

Whilst we'd have 2 players at left back too, admittedly my concern would lie here. Davies should only really be a back up option but yet would still probably be preferred to Sessegnon short term who is very inexperienced as a player never mind a left back.

Objectively if we want to challenge this season we probably need a left back to replace Rose as well as Sessegnon. But the main area of focus should now be 2 CMs to replace Eriksen (1 if he doesn't go) and a forward.

Regarding your point about the defence there isn't a great deal we can do about it for the first couple of games. It would mostly be a case of being unlucky with 5 players being unavailable. There's only so many absences you can legislate for. Having to play CCV for 1 or 2 matches wouldn't be the end of the world, it's not actually bad having a 5th choice option that is Championship level.

 

[Ben1]

Tbf we will be horridly short of players if we sell half the squad as people predict, but bring in 2. I just don't see this happening. Poch actively moaned about options last year, I doubt we start the season with a squad that has 3 less players.

 

[dfree]

2 more players in than I was expecting at this point to be fair. Think it will just be Sessegnon and Lo Celso with Eriksen, Rose and Toby the main outgoings.

I can't see Toby leaving at this rate. His clause only lasts another week or so, and there hasn't been any murmurings of a move since the Roma move went quiet.

 

[hutchiniho]

Why would we want revolution?

I not sure if we’d necessarily want it but it does seem more of a revolution than evolution.

ITK even suggested this before the season ended. Ie that we could and should expect a big turnover this Summer.

That does seem to be happening

To start 19/20 we are likely to have a different starting RB, LB, CB, CM, AM/F
Pretty much half the team.

I know we are not in the position of wealth that Utd were under Fergie and City/Pool are now but the proven recipe has always been to get your squad and add One top talent to the area of need each season.

I do appreciate Toby and Eriksen’s current contract positions and the idea to move on Trippier and Rose now rather than later. But this is a big overhaul and it does seem that that back line in particular won’t be up and running and fully set for a x amount of time.

With this all said ITK yesterday or day before seemed to suggest all was positive. I can see Sess, clearly one for the future, and GLoC a tea talent right now but there must be something else.
Not the thread but right now Foyth is not as good as Trippier who wasn’t as good as Walker.
Sess will be awesome but through to Christmas I’m not sure if he’ll be as good as Rose.
Toby and Verts split will be breaking up one of the Prems’ best ever partnerships.
Big change

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

That’s a great point mate. I was one of Rose’s harshest critics that season, and I was hoping he’d leave with Ricardo Rodriguez coming our way.

Since then he’s became our best left back for as long as I’ve been a fan, and I am now gutted to see the back of him.

If Poch could do that with Rose who you could argue was a fairly late bloomer and didn’t have much experience at LB, imagine what he could do with a 19 year old with a fair bit of experience at his age who’s impressed throughout his short career

Pure revisionism, rose was quality before poch got to spurs. You were just wrong.

 

[Chirpystheman]

To start 19/20 we are likely to have a different starting RB, LB, CB, CM, AM/F
Pretty much half the team.

Thats not exactly true. All our RB options have played there before. We had pretty much 2 3rds of a season with sanchez at CB with Jan. Its likely to be 2 maybe 3 players throughout the team that would be different. Everything points towards eriksen staying. So evennof lo celso does come in he can be eased in. So depending on who's fit could be a team with only ndombele in it from last season. With Jan dier Sanchez aurier/KWP. If that cant beat villa who are trying to sign a whole new XI then we might as well not bother. Lack of control in midfield was our issue last year. Just relax people. Panic on the 9th August

 

[hutchiniho]

To start 19/20 we are likely to have a different starting RB, LB, CB, CM, AM/F
Pretty much half the team.

Thats not exactly true. All our RB options have played there before. We had pretty much 2 3rds of a season with sanchez at CB with Jan. Its likely to be 2 maybe 3 players throughout the team that would be different. Everything points towards eriksen staying. So evennof lo celso does come in he can be eased in. So depending on who's fit could be a team with only ndombele in it from last season. With Jan dier Sanchez aurier/KWP. If that cant beat villa who are trying to sign a whole new XI then we might as well not bother. Lack of control in midfield was our issue last year. Just relax people. Panic on the 9th August

Date noted ;-)

 

[Sweech]

Actually City and Liverpool last season were complete. There wasn’t a position where you could say they wanted to clearly improve.

City’s only venture this summer has been to replace an ageing Fernandinho.

We on the other hand leave ourselves short every summer in at least one key area

As I said, we finally strengthened CM and what is the betting we don’t replace Rose / Toby or Trippier with a proven quality player.

Or instead of signing GLC and one other in case Eriksen leaves, it’s a like for like swap and we are still left threadbare in creative positions.

I await to be proven wrong!

This isn’t true at all. If you go onto a City or Liverpool fan forum like this one you’ll see that the fans still believe there’s some areas both those teams need to improve in.

You’re just looking at this team through a microscope because you care more.

 

[WiganSpur]

This isn’t true at all. If you go onto a City or Liverpool fan forum like this one you’ll see that the fans still believe there’s some areas both those teams need to improve in.

You’re just looking at this team through a microscope because you care more.

It's very rare you see a complete squad if at all, but you'd certainly say their squads are more 'complete' than ours at the moment and that's why they finished so many points above us. City have pretty much done what they need to now, bar a centre half. Liverpool you can say the same of once they get a back up left back.

Ultimately last season we crumbled under the weight of multiple competitions once we suffered a couple of injuries that were made more likely because of our negligence. Our league form fell off a cliff during the Champions League run.

Anything can happen in one off cup games, even over 2 legs as we saw against City. But in the league you won't get away with having an inferior squad, not now when there's virtually nothing to choose between the elite level coaches. Let's be honest, we got 4th because of United and Arsenal's incompetency.

 

[Timberwolf]

This isn’t true at all. If you go onto a City or Liverpool fan forum like this one you’ll see that the fans still believe there’s some areas both those teams need to improve in.

You’re just looking at this team through a microscope because you care more.

Yup. I don't think any fanbase is every truly happy - there's always an area of weakness or something they will find to moan about.

You can guarantee City fans were pissed off that they had to use Delph at LB when they broke the all time PL points tally.

Chelsea fans were probably begging to replace Drogba after his first average season, despite them cruising their way to the league title.

And I bet Liverpool were livid that Sturridge and Origi were their backup strikers last season, despite spending £140 million on a keeper and a CB.

Everything is relative and every fanbase has a tendency to think they're the only team with problems - the classic being "no other team would have a transfer saga this long" despite practically every team having painful transfer sagas every season.












That said, I'll fucking murder Levy if we don't sign Lo Celso. Useless ****.