Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

[spark7586]

Well when you put it that way.. I’d do the same.

I don’t blame him. No wonder he was raging! NDombele is probably my favourite player, he’s unplayable on his day and definitely should’ve started that game! That’s why Mason should never have got the job as we’d have Winks CM all season

 

[Stoof]

Don’t blame him. NDombele is probably my favourite player, he’s unplayable on his day and definitely should’ve started that game! That’s why Mason should never have got the job as we’d have Winks CM all season

That's a staggering proclamation. Each to their own of course, but wow.

 

[Nebby]

Skill is meaningless without

Don’t blame him. NDombele is probably my favourite player, he’s unplayable on his day and definitely should’ve started that game! That’s why Mason should never have got the job as we’d have Winks CM all season

I agree that Ndombele is most definitely unplayable, although probably not for the same reasons as you.

 

[tottenham28]

Well when you put it that way.. I’d do the same.

On the flip side, he could have used this as the fuel, to put the fire in his belly and truly show himself as the player we'd all expected had signed.
He's just a lazy arse, who really doesn't deserve top flight football with his poor mentality.

 

[Stamford]

That was a truly shocking decision. I've only just erased the mason period from my mind

 

[Timberwolf]

On the flip side, he could have used this as the fuel, to put the fire in his belly and truly show himself as the player we'd all expected had signed.
He's just a lazy arse, who really doesn't deserve top flight football with his poor mentality.

That's if there's any room left.

 

[Matthew]

Mason coming in and leaving him out of the team was a disgrace.

I'm not surprised he's pissed off.

why?

 

[tiger666]

Or maybe he should act like a professional, do what the manager asks and not be such a cry baby.

 

[ukdy]

Or maybe he should act like a professional, do what the manager asks and not be such a cry baby.

Exactly this, whilst frustrating to be left out of the final his reaction to being left out tells us everything about him and his mentality. He’s not the centre of the Tottenham universe despite what he might think or what he’s paid

 

[Spurslove]

People say our most urgent priority is to find a decent right back and centre back, but for me, it's to get rid of Ndombele ASAP and to find someone who's fully prepared to work their arse off for the club, and to provide killer passes for the strikers, something which I reckon is alien to him judging by his past performances and behaviour.
.

 

[Univarn]

This is what The Athletic article actually says (minus the extra paragraphs euologizing the player). It's slightly more nuanced than then aggregator says but obviously not enough to change anyone's opinions on him.

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Mason has always been a huge admirer of Ndombele as a player but when he picked the team for the final, he put in Winks and left Ndombele on the bench. The decision backfired in more ways than one. First, Spurs had no way to play through City’s press and were crying out for a player who could take the ball under pressure and move it forward. Tottenham barely got out of their own half and lost 1-0.

But Ndombele was also crestfallen to be dropped for the final. This would have been the biggest game of his career — his first major final and his first game at Wembley. And he had to watch it from the bench. Mason made four changes as he attempted to open up the game, bringing on Gareth Bale, Moussa Sissoko, Dele Alli and Steven Bergwijn, but not Ndombele.

For Ndombele, this was immensely painful. He has always seen himself as a big-game player who comes alive on the grandest stages. It was his display for Lyon against Manchester City in the Champions League in 2018, remember, that alerted the world to his talent. And now he had been sidelined for a huge game when he was desperate to make the difference.

The result was that, perhaps unsurprisingly, Ndombele’s head dropped. He was so upset to miss the final that it affected his performances in training. Ndombele could give Mason no real reason to put him back in the side.

It was a miserable end to the season for Ndombele, compounded by missing out on Didier Deschamps’ squad for Euro 2020 despite starting in a World Cup qualifier for France during the March break. It has led to Ndombele asking to leave Tottenham, with the player believing that he can get a move to a team as big as Barcelona, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. This, in turn, has led Nuno Espirito Santo to exclude him from the team and even the bench for all of Spurs’ games so far this season. Nuno does not want to pick a player who doesn’t want to be there — although he has not applied that same stance on Kane.

Whether Ndombele can actually get a move to one of Europe’s biggest teams in the last week of the transfer window remains to be seen. But Spurs are certainly trying to find someone to take him. Fabio Paratici is hoping to engineer a swap deal this week to get Ndombele’s £200,000-per-week wages off the books and plug one of the remaining gaps in Spurs’ squad.

In one sense, it would be a success for Paratici to find a new home for Ndombele so late in the window. This has not been an easy summer for clubs to get rid of highly paid players. Just look at Manchester City or Manchester United’s struggles to move on players no longer in their first team. The financial crisis at the top end of European football means that practically nobody other than City, Chelsea and Paris Saint-Germain has any money to spend. If Paratici can find a creative solution it will be a testament to his imagination and hard work.

But if Ndombele leaves then many people will be left with a sense of frustration and loss. He is a uniquely gifted footballer whose footwork, balance, timing and brilliance allow him to do things with the ball few would even dream of. He has produced moments — such as his hooked finish at Sheffield United — that remind you of the thrill of being surprised by football.

 

[Rosco1984]

Nsomebody leaking to the press about Nuno asking all the players if they want to play for spurs could be the same Nsomebody who posted a photo of himself and Kane towards the end of last season with eggtimer emojis. Could be a coincidence but our close knit squad started having dressing room problems around the same time we signed Nsomebody who only wants to try when it suits him but then sulks when he doesn't play and cries he wants to leave. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Biggest disappointment in my time watching spurs one of the biggest talents I have seen in a spurs shirt but the mentality of a spoilt 5 year old.

 

[PLTuck]

Nsomebody leaking to the press about Nuno asking all the players if they want to play for spurs could be the same Nsomebody who posted a photo of himself and Kane towards the end of last season with eggtimer emojis. Could be a coincidence but our close knit squad started having dressing room problems around the same time we signed Nsomebody who only wants to try when it suits him but then sulks when he doesn't play and cries he wants to leave. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Biggest disappointment in my time watching spurs one of the biggest talents I have seen in a spurs shirt but the mentality of a spoilt 5 year old.

Just imagine, you are a 22 year old who has been bought by a big club in england, with a massive stadium, state of the art training facilities, one of the best strikers in the world and with recent CL experience. You are their record transfer. A lot of expectation is on you. A lot of excitement is around you. The boss is a renowned preseason taskmaster.

You are so lazy, and so convinced that your touch and technique make up for the fact that you can't last 90 mins at PL pace that you ask to leave after a few weeks.

He epitomises a poor mentality. Maybe he should look in the mirror at why a technically vastly inferior player was preferred by 4 coaches. Can't be gone soon enough in my eyes.

 

[DiVaio]

Nsomebody leaking to the press about Nuno asking all the players if they want to play for spurs could be the same Nsomebody who posted a photo of himself and Kane towards the end of last season with eggtimer emojis. Could be a coincidence but our close knit squad started having dressing room problems around the same time we signed Nsomebody who only wants to try when it suits him but then sulks when he doesn't play and cries he wants to leave. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Biggest disappointment in my time watching spurs one of the biggest talents I have seen in a spurs shirt but the mentality of a spoilt 5 year old.

I am pretty sure if Ndombele was leaking stories it would be to French press and not The Sun or The Athletic. And you are definitely paying too much attention to random emoji under a photo(btw checked and it was his only photo that could show him as a dissapointed etc after a game we lost against Leeds).

Could be a coincidence but our close knit squad started having dressing room problems around the same time Poch lost dressing room months before Ndombele came or when Jose became our manager and keeping a good atmosphere in dressing room really isn't his strength.

 

[Rosco1984]

I am pretty sure if Ndombele was leaking stories it would be to French press and not The Sun or The Athletic. And you are definitely paying too much attention to random emoji under a photo(btw checked and it was his only photo that could show him as a dissapointed etc after a game we lost against Leeds).

Could be a coincidence but our close knit squad started having dressing room problems around the same time Poch lost dressing room months before Ndombele came or when Jose became our manager and keeping a good atmosphere in dressing room really isn't his strength.

The last game we played before he joined was a champions league final? I'm pretty sure the dressing room wasn't lost at that point.

 

[Huddlebone]

I am pretty sure if Ndombele was leaking stories it would be to French press and not The Sun or The Athletic. And you are definitely paying too much attention to random emoji under a photo(btw checked and it was his only photo that could show him as a dissapointed etc after a game we lost against Leeds).

Could be a coincidence but our close knit squad started having dressing room problems around the same time Poch lost dressing room months before Ndombele came or when Jose became our manager and keeping a good atmosphere in dressing room really isn't his strength.

And you are spending way to much time defending a player that doesn't even want to be here with hypothetical scenarios that you dont know anything about really, but always with a defending/positiv twist in Tanguys favor.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

This is what The Athletic article actually says (minus the extra paragraphs euologizing the player). It's slightly more nuanced than then aggregator says but obviously not enough to change anyone's opinions on him.

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Mason has always been a huge admirer of Ndombele as a player but when he picked the team for the final, he put in Winks and left Ndombele on the bench. The decision backfired in more ways than one. First, Spurs had no way to play through City’s press and were crying out for a player who could take the ball under pressure and move it forward. Tottenham barely got out of their own half and lost 1-0.

But Ndombele was also crestfallen to be dropped for the final. This would have been the biggest game of his career — his first major final and his first game at Wembley. And he had to watch it from the bench. Mason made four changes as he attempted to open up the game, bringing on Gareth Bale, Moussa Sissoko, Dele Alli and Steven Bergwijn, but not Ndombele.

For Ndombele, this was immensely painful. He has always seen himself as a big-game player who comes alive on the grandest stages. It was his display for Lyon against Manchester City in the Champions League in 2018, remember, that alerted the world to his talent. And now he had been sidelined for a huge game when he was desperate to make the difference.

The result was that, perhaps unsurprisingly, Ndombele’s head dropped. He was so upset to miss the final that it affected his performances in training. Ndombele could give Mason no real reason to put him back in the side.

It was a miserable end to the season for Ndombele, compounded by missing out on Didier Deschamps’ squad for Euro 2020 despite starting in a World Cup qualifier for France during the March break. It has led to Ndombele asking to leave Tottenham, with the player believing that he can get a move to a team as big as Barcelona, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. This, in turn, has led Nuno Espirito Santo to exclude him from the team and even the bench for all of Spurs’ games so far this season. Nuno does not want to pick a player who doesn’t want to be there — although he has not applied that same stance on Kane.

Whether Ndombele can actually get a move to one of Europe’s biggest teams in the last week of the transfer window remains to be seen. But Spurs are certainly trying to find someone to take him. Fabio Paratici is hoping to engineer a swap deal this week to get Ndombele’s £200,000-per-week wages off the books and plug one of the remaining gaps in Spurs’ squad.

In one sense, it would be a success for Paratici to find a new home for Ndombele so late in the window. This has not been an easy summer for clubs to get rid of highly paid players. Just look at Manchester City or Manchester United’s struggles to move on players no longer in their first team. The financial crisis at the top end of European football means that practically nobody other than City, Chelsea and Paris Saint-Germain has any money to spend. If Paratici can find a creative solution it will be a testament to his imagination and hard work.

But if Ndombele leaves then many people will be left with a sense of frustration and loss. He is a uniquely gifted footballer whose footwork, balance, timing and brilliance allow him to do things with the ball few would even dream of. He has produced moments — such as his hooked finish at Sheffield United — that remind you of the thrill of being surprised by football.

FFS MASON!

 

[Finchyid]

Don’t blame him at all but instead of crying over it he should be using it to show the NEW manager who didn’t make that decision that he’s a 1st choice

 

[DiVaio]

And you are spending way to much time defending a player that doesn't even want to be here with hypothetical scenarios that you dont know anything about really, but always with a defending/positiv twist in Tanguys favor.

Because those suggestions are ridiculous.

The last game we played before he joined was a champions league final? I'm pretty sure the dressing room wasn't lost at that point.

And we were horrible for last few months in Premier League.

 

[Rosco1984]

Because those suggestions are ridiculous.


And we were horrible for last few months in Premier League.

I didn't say we played well in the league we relied on winksokko so how would we but the squad were together enough to get us to a champions league final with that midfield pair and no Kane. Dressing room problems didn't start until the following season.