Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

[Ronwol196061]

Such lazy comparisons with Dembele. He is a far better passer than Dembele. In fact it was Dembeles passing which held him back from truly being world class. He would often glide passed two players like they weren’t there, but then be unable to make a penetrating incisive forward pass so would lay the ball off sideways. It was a severe limitation in his game.

Ndombele on the other hand has the full range of passing in his locker.

I really liked Dembele but I totally agree with this

 

[McFlash]

Such lazy comparisons with Dembele. He is a far better passer than Dembele. In fact it was Dembeles passing which held him back from truly being world class. He would often glide passed two players like they weren’t there, but then be unable to make a penetrating incisive forward pass so would lay the ball off sideways. It was a severe limitation in his game.

Ndombele on the other hand has the full range of passing in his locker.

Agree. He's a Dembele/Sissoko hybrid, with an end product to boot.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Yeah we’ll just put Eriksen in the smaller games ?

You are obviously trying to be sarcastic but tell me do you really think Eriksen is capable at a CM?
The answer is no

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Such lazy comparisons with Dembele. He is a far better passer than Dembele. In fact it was Dembeles passing which held him back from truly being world class. He would often glide passed two players like they weren’t there, but then be unable to make a penetrating incisive forward pass so would lay the ball off sideways. It was a severe limitation in his game.

Ndombele on the other hand has the full range of passing in his locker.

And Dembele was miles better dribbler than Tanguy. Sissoko is a much better comparison but I don’t think people are comfortable enough with the idea of him being good yet for that

 

[Primativ]

And Dembele was miles better dribbler than Tanguy. Sissoko is a much better comparison but I don’t think people are comfortable enough with the idea of him being good yet for that

Actually no. Dembele had around a 90% completion rate from his dribbles. NDombele has around 81% admittedly in the inferior french league, but that isn’t miles better by any stretch.

If you expect a player like those two to try around 5 or 6 dribbles a match, Dembele would complete just less than one more on average per game. It’s clear to see Ndombele excels massively in this area too.

However when you then combine that with Ndombele miles better vision and passing, you have a much more complete midfielder.

 

[Ronwol196061]

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And Dembele was miles better dribbler than Tanguy. Sissoko is a much better comparison but I don’t think people are comfortable enough with the idea of him being good yet for that

Dribbling in small spaces never ventured further to create anything mostly layed off passes

 

[Ronwol196061]

And Dembele was miles better dribbler than Tanguy. Sissoko is a much better comparison but I don’t think people are comfortable enough with the idea of him being good yet for that

Dembele vision was limited to what was around him. Ultimately nothing got created
He was strong and protected the ball probably more than NDombele but lacked a bigger vision

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Actually no. Dembele had around a 90% completion rate from his dribbles. NDombele has around 81% admittedly in the inferior french league, but that isn’t miles better by any stretch.

If you expect a player like those two to try around 5 or 6 dribbles a match, Dembele would complete just less than one more on average per game. It’s clear to see Ndombele excels massively in this area too.

However when you then combine that with Ndombele miles better vision and passing, you have a much more complete midfielder.

I’m not saying Ndombele isn’t or won’t be better than a Dembele but the idea that he’s similar or better at dribbling is silly. What he does with it once he’s beaten his man is the most important thing and where Mousa always lacked obviously

 

[Ronwol196061]

I’m not saying Ndombele isn’t or won’t be better than a Dembele but the idea that he’s similar or better at dribbling is silly. What he does with it once he’s beaten his man is the most important thing and where Mousa always lacked obviously

Dembele was a good dribbler but didn't move the ball forward enough

 

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[Jamturk]

A more expansive passing range makes dribbling easier.

 

[Primativ]

I’m not saying Ndombele isn’t or won’t be better than a Dembele but the idea that he’s similar or better at dribbling is silly. What he does with it once he’s beaten his man is the most important thing and where Mousa always lacked obviously

Well it’s not silly as I’ve just shown you that statistically they are very similar. In any case, dribbling passed players but not doing anything with the ball isn’t exactly something to shout about.

Dembele was brilliant at protecting possession and resetting play, but really that was about all his dribbling was useful for.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Well it’s not silly as I’ve just shown you that statistically they are very similar. In any case, dribbling passed players but not doing anything with the ball isn’t exactly something to shout about.

Dembele was brilliant at protecting possession and resetting play, but really that was about all his dribbling was useful for.

100% agree

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Well it’s not silly as I’ve just shown you that statistically they are very similar. In any case, dribbling passed players but not doing anything with the ball isn’t exactly something to shout about.

Dembele was brilliant at protecting possession and resetting play, but really that was about all his dribbling was useful for.

I’m not sure what point you’re making because im talking about the dribbling part. We all agree that Dembele was too indecisive after that but that isn’t dribbling

 

[thefierycamel]

Moose would have been incredible at 5-a-side. Best dribbler I've seen, next to Messi.

 

[dagraham]

Agree. He's a Dembele/Sissoko hybrid, with an end product to boot.

Yeah, like I said before, if he could score goals he really would be the complete midfielder.

 

[Primativ]

I’m not sure what point you’re making because im talking about the dribbling part. We all agree that Dembele was too indecisive after that but that isn’t dribbling

The point I’m making is Dembele isn’t a miles better dribbler. They are very similar statistically.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

The point I’m making is Dembele isn’t a miles better dribbler. They are very similar statistically.

They’re not though, 90% to 81% is pretty big. Was the Dembele stat for his last season or total with Spurs? Because that would mean a higher % for 6 years in the premier league vs Ligue 1 for 1 year.

 

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[MichaelPawson]

I think people on here are underrating Mousa's line-breaking ability a bit here. Sure, he wasn't always the most progressive passer, but he was such a good dribbler and so physically strong that the opposing defense would have no choice but to collapse on him, which opened up space for the people around him. Tanguy looks a bit more well-rounded as a whole, but I don't think we'll be seeing someone with Mousa's dribbling abilities at Spurs for quite a while. He was such a unique talent.