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Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

spids

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Jul 19, 2015
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I’m not defending Ndombele and am glad to see him go. However, he was bought for Poch, who’d pretty much signed off after the CL final and before Ndombele even joined. He then spent the first half of his first season in a failing team surrounded by players like Dele, Sissoko and Winks. Then we got Mourinho and it took a full year to understand what he wanted, basically midfield robots who mainly defended. This happened during the Covid lockdown, in a strange country with few friends / family. Then, once he established himself in the team, Mourinho got sacked and Nuno came in. Nuno clearly did not like his laid back style from day one, and he was frozen out. Then after 3 months Nuno was sacked and we hired Conte, the one manager who will not tolerate any deviation to his plan, and a manager that took Fabregas and Eriksen (way better and successful playmakers) a year to gain trust.

Ndombele is his own worst enemy, his effort and body language is terrible, but the odds were stacked against him from day one. Best he leaves ASAP and hope his next manager sees him as a luxury player who does not need to train hard or defend.
 

wrd

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Aug 22, 2014
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To all those who I argued with and honestly sometimes I was quite a dick about it, such was my desire for him and all Spurs players for that matter to succeed but no Excuses, I want to hold my hands up about that and I just want to say all those I got into it with:

Hopefully he has a good loan, comes back as he he deserves to get another chance. just lacks confidence is all, I’m sure of it.
 
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brasil_spur

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Aug 25, 2006
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Could also be regarding match day bonuses etc. I can't imagine we'd continue to pay appearance/goal bonuses for work he's doing at another club.
Probably not, although do you get money back from the player if they put in say <30% effort in a game? ;)
 

spursyido1

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Didn’t we get a few quid back for Bent?
From memory we got back what we paid Charlton. We sold for an initial lower fee (£10m ish?) but when Sunderland sold him to Villa for a lot (~£24mfrkm memory) that kicked in the full add-ons to be owed (~£18m). Anyway I could be wrong but that’s how I remember it being told by a fairy reliable journalist at the time!
 

jay2040

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I’m not defending Ndombele and am glad to see him go. However, he was bought for Poch, who’d pretty much signed off after the CL final and before Ndombele even joined. He then spent the first half of his first season in a failing team surrounded by players like Dele, Sissoko and Winks. Then we got Mourinho and it took a full year to understand what he wanted, basically midfield robots who mainly defended. This happened during the Covid lockdown, in a strange country with few friends / family. Then, once he established himself in the team, Mourinho got sacked and Nuno came in. Nuno clearly did not like his laid back style from day one, and he was frozen out. Then after 3 months Nuno was sacked and we hired Conte, the one manager who will not tolerate any deviation to his plan, and a manager that took Fabregas and Eriksen (way better and successful playmakers) a year to gain trust.

Ndombele is his own worst enemy, his effort and body language is terrible, but the odds were stacked against him from day one. Best he leaves ASAP and hope his next manager sees him as a luxury player who does not need to train hard or defend.

Taking into account the length of your post and the content you might not be directly defending him though you have a raft of reasons to justify his behaviour!
 
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fortworthspur

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Bentley didnt flop - he was over-rated, IMO. Maybe we paid too much but that goal against Arsenal was a thing of beauty. Seemed like a good fellow to have around too.
 

rebrab

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Jun 13, 2008
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I suggested on here months back he might go for £15m. someone said no-one will leave for less than 20m. So I’m currently winning the Internet.

does it strike you as strange his agents are negotiating personal terms, since it’s a loan and I thought someone would just have to pay what he’s due in the current contract? Spurs should be negotiating who pays what…?
Loan with Obligation means you agree personal terms up front. Obligation is on the players side too.
 

spursfan77

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Let’s hope we hear some confirmation of this sooner rather than later. If he hasn’t gone in a week’s time then we will know it’s fallen over.
 

Beni

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Gutted that we couldn’t do a deal with Napoli with Ruiz coming the other way. I suppose we would never be able to compete with PSG his likely destination now. Rather Ruiz at PSG though than at a rival in the Premier League, as did worry he would go Utd.

Fingers crossed Napoli have a buy clause for NDombele. I think the italian league will suit Tanguy.
 

spids

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Jul 19, 2015
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Personal terms... The level of his stocks are so low and he still has that much personal terms to agree on.... :unsure:
He has £200k per week with us for another 3 years (or £120k per week plus bonuses). He is also probably for a loyalty bonus if he hasn’t asked to move. Why would he take a pay cut? If he goes on loan we will pay the majority of his wages, and if there is an option to buy the price will be low so they can cover his wages with a signing on fee.
 
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