Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

[Timberwolf]

Might just be an opportunity for for one of them though, numbers game.
Very unlucky know for Ndombele in pre season training, he was meant to start day after.

He was unlucky to miss the West Ham game but was announced fit enough to play shortly after then not even on the bench for the other 2 friendlies.

I can only assume Ange saw something he didn't like in training following Ndombele's injury or I don't think he would've gone from starter to completely uninvolved and now (potentially) being sold.

 

[dontcallme]

He’s a good example of why I don’t get particularly excited about signings when I don’t know anything about the player.

I read so many positive things when he signed. Many wondered how we got such a player.

He’s been a complete flop, and a very expensive one.

 

[carpediem991]

We still have a real issue at the Non HG section, especially if two defenders are about to join (and a Kane replacement?). Now we are stuck with Bryan also so it would be best to part ways here and save some salary.

 

[wrd]

Might just be an opportunity for for one of them though, numbers game.
Very unlucky know for Ndombele in pre season training, he was meant to start day after.

I did think that may be the case. I didn't think I could be the one to argue that point as I've very much backed Ndombele and didn't want it misconstrued as an excuse.

I feel Ndombele has more ability but that Lo Celso has proven he has real fight in him on the pitch, thought it was a very ridiculous decision and reason behind why Lo Celso was sent out on loan by Conte.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

I will always be gutted that he didn't have it in him to make it work (as well as the fact that he came to us in a period of severe turbulence), as he is quite frankly the most naturally talented player that we have in our squad.

Danny Rose was on Talksport a few days ago and was saying that, although they only crossed over for 6 months, he was ridiculously talented and one of the best players he'd seen up close.

Real shame. But can't keep giving him chances when he's on 200k a week.

 

[ronspurs]

I still can’t believe that when the ITK on here said him coming in was a done deal, its the one spurs transfer that made me Cheer out loud, causing my wife to ask me if I was mental

 

[BENNO]

We still have a real issue at the Non HG section, especially if two defenders are about to join (and a Kane replacement?). Now we are stuck with Bryan also so it would be best to part ways here and save some salary.

Think we are ok aren't we ? 2 back up keepers homegrown, Dier and Davies, Skipp and Maddison. That's obviously not including Kane and potentially Sess (if his recovery from surgery keeps him out for months, then assume we wouldn't register him for the first half of season).

 

[Yid-ol]

Think we are ok aren't we ? 2 back up keepers homegrown, Dier and Davies, Skipp and Maddison. That's obviously not including Kane and potentially Sess (if his recovery from surgery keeps him out for months, then assume we wouldn't register him for the first half of season).

Dier isn't homegrown.

 

[KirstyG]

Very frustrating he cost so much and gave us so little in the grand scheme of things. So many managers can’t have been wrong about him though. Best for everyone he just goes now. Disgusting he took home that wage when you think about it - anyways. Hope this moves other things along. Wish him well, but bye.

 

[carpediem991]

Think we are ok aren't we ? 2 back up keepers homegrown, Dier and Davies, Skipp and Maddison. That's obviously not including Kane and potentially Sess (if his recovery from surgery keeps him out for months, then assume we wouldn't register him for the first half of season).

1 Vicario
2 Porro
3 Royal
4 Romero
5 Reguilon
6 Sanchez
7 Dier
8 Hojbjerg
9 Solomon
10 Bissouma
11 Lo Celso
12 Ndombele
13 Bentancur
14 Bryan
15 Perisic
16 Son
17 Kulusevski
18 Richarlison
+ Lloris

+ probably 2 new CBs

If i see it correctly we probably need to get rid of four players (Lloris, Sanchez, Reguilon?, Ndombele?, Hojbjerg?)

 

[Finchyid]

Lo Celso at least looks like it's possible he may yet come good for us and didn't cost what Ndombele did.

Cost us over £40m so not far off. He is showing better signs under Ange so he may pull it around

 

[Jamturk]

I wonder who scouted him, to not look past the obvious skill and flair is negligent. It's as if there are people in football that are literally stealing a living.

 

[BENNO]

1 Vicario
2 Porro
3 Royal
4 Romero
5 Reguilon
6 Sanchez
7 Dier
8 Hojbjerg
9 Solomon
10 Bissouma
11 Lo Celso
12 Ndombele
13 Bentancur
14 Bryan
15 Perisic
16 Son
17 Kulusevski
18 Richarlison
+ Lloris

+ probably 2 new CBs

If i see it correctly we probably need to get rid of four players (Lloris, Sanchez, Reguilon?, Ndombele?, Hojbjerg?)

Yep, would see Lloris , Sanchez and Reguilon as good as out the door (one way or another) thought 1 of Tanguy or Lo Celso would stay, that seems to have gone Lo Celso way now , which i'm personally pleased about. Hojbjerg or Peresic i suppose are the other two, Peresic did do bits in the pre season that made him look an option for this system, but realistically he's behind Son and Solomon isn't he, so not a massive need for him with no European footy. If Gil has had, or is having his back operation then that's a good 2 months out at the very least , assume we don't register him either ?

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Disappointing if true. Lo Celso came back and has (seemingly) proven there is an opportunity here if a player is willing to take it.

Agree. I suspect his injury in pre season meant other players pushed ahead of him in the pecking order. It seemed Ange was happy with him when interviewed but getting injured meant Sarr and Lo Celso impressed and I can imagine with too many non-HG players, and Tanguy only having 2 years left on his contract it makes sense to move him on if there is interest.

 

[Albertbarich]

I wonder what happened.

Was it that lo Celso was the fit one and took his chance and because it was only one or the other Tanguy leaves or was it a case of bad attitude etc.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I wonder who scouted him, to not look past the obvious skill and flair is negligent. It's as if there are people in football that are literally stealing a living.

The recruitment team would have known everything about his history, mentality etc... It is a big part of their jobs. All they do is present the information to the manager/board.

If reports are to be believed he was always seen as a project, that if guided correctly would be a top player. Obviously sacking the manager who wanted to be the one guiding him meant we are where we are with him today.

 

[BENNO]

I wonder what happened.

Was it that lo Celso was the fit one and took his chance and because it was only one or the other Tanguy leaves or was it a case of bad attitude etc.

It is a bit weird, as it did look a case of Gio off, Tanguy redeemed (even the club videos were showing a happy smiling Tanguy) but then the ill timed injury, Gio playing well and, i assume, training well and here we are.

I think one of them was definitely off due to midfield numbers , and i think we all felt that a fit, motivated Gio would fit the system nicely, so given Tanguys wages and a club has seemingly made a concrete bid for him that isn't too bad, it's probably worked out nicely for us - which isn't usually the case !

 

[michaelj70]

We still have a real issue at the Non HG section, especially if two defenders are about to join (and a Kane replacement?). Now we are stuck with Bryan also so it would be best to part ways here and save some salary.

Here in France he was well known for his time at Lyon + loan
Got them back in Champions league
But everyone here knew his attitude wasn't great So something really wrong in his recruitment

 

[Timberwolf]

I wonder what happened.

Was it that lo Celso was the fit one and took his chance and because it was only one or the other Tanguy leaves or was it a case of bad attitude etc.

Yeah hard to say. I think we were only ever likely to keep one of Lo Celso/Ndombele this summer so maybe Lo Celso being fully committed and slotting in perfectly made up Ange's mind for him?

Or maybe there was a realisation that Ndombele was never likely to get up to the level of fitness Ange requires?

Either way, I think keeping Lo Celso and selling Tanguy is the most sensible move as Ndombele was unlikely to ever be more than a bit part/sub option anyway whereas Lo Celso looks like he could be a regular starter if needed.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Think it’s best he goes for all parties concerned, 11 mill and him off the wage bill is pretty good imo.

Hopefully we can shift Sanchez, Regi, PEH, Lloris and Perisic also. The amount of wages it would save a trimming up the squad would be great.