Players out of position lost it for us

[gibbs131]

IMO if you play at this level, you need specific players in specific positions.

If you have injuries, don't play Ohara or Chimbonda at left back: Play the reserve natural left back. Someone who has mapped out that specific part of turf for the past 10 years.

1: Ohara at left back
2: Malbs LM
4: LENNON also LM
4: Keane is not a free role player

Honorable mention Hud: No defined role as of yet
Almost half of the team not in their natural roles.

That is a HUGE percentage of the team playing in a position which is not their comfort zone.

The players listed are MASSIVE pluses for the team but we should not expect too much when we have a middleweight fighting against a heavyweight on the pitch.

BTW I also don't want Ramos to take a whole season to realize Lennon can't play on the left. It took Jol long enough to realize this.

Looking at the starting lineup I presume this is Ramos looking at what he has at his disposal. It is just frustrating knowing Newscastle are probably safe because of Spurs.

 

[nicdic]

Robbo, in goal.

 

[Flatters]

I blame Chris Hughton. It was almost as if he was working for Newcastle today.

 

[gibbs131]

Robbo, in goal.

Haha. I honestly almost added him!

I think this result reflects on how midfield heavy the squad is at the moment. Esp in the attacking midfield department.

Commoli needs to address this obvious shortcoming when it comes to a balanced team.

Poor old TT, Ghaly, Malbs etc have practically played their entire Spurs career out of position.

 

[gibbs131]

I blame Chris Hughton. It was almost as if he was working for Newcastle today.

L L L D W W

Very Spursesque.

 

[Flatters]

I think Robbo should be given a go in Hudd's position. His long passing and through balls over the top were better than Hudd's yesterday, so I think he deserves a chance there.

Keane could replace Robbo in goal. He appears to be a natural goalkeeper. I'm not sure what else would explain him flapping his arms about incessantly throughout games.

 

[Allen]

No it didn't!
Player attitude and Tottenham's every present lack of real leadership when a team is willing to battle us for every ball on every inch of the field lost it for us.

We played fine until after we scored and I think a silly goal before half time gave Newcastle new impetus.

 

[fortworthspur]

we have no business playing a 4-3-3. we attack better than most with a 4-4-2 and still have trouble defending with 4 in the midfield anyway. I hope we never see it again.

 

[Dougal]

Bent was shoe-horned into the team without getting Keane and Berbatov's backs up by dropping either of them. As an experiment it didn't really work. Ramos will learn and move forward. I'd rather he mess about now than come August though.

 

[PYiddy]

I blame Chris Hughton. It was almost as if he was working for Newcastle today.

very good! Ha Ha Ha!!

 

[Allen]

Bent was shoe-horned into the team without getting Keane and Berbatov's backs up by dropping either of them. As an experiment it didn't really work. Ramos will learn and move forward. I'd rather he mess about now than come August though.

I agree totally. I just think even with the change of system we had the game and then just lost all desire to play - that was the dissopointing thing.

 

[Evolution]

Bent was shoe-horned into the team without getting Keane and Berbatov's backs up by dropping either of them. As an experiment it didn't really work. Ramos will learn and move forward. I'd rather he mess about now than come August though.

Exactly mate :clap:

 

[DC_Boy]

Bent was shoe-horned into the team without getting Keane and Berbatov's backs up by dropping either of them.

I think there's a lot of truth there Dougal - it is a problem when you have 3 top players and only 2 can play - ask JD

I think it may be time even to give Bent a game on his own v rovers and rest both of the others- but deffo rest one of Keane or Berbs next game - and I reckon it's Berbs turn - trouble is I don't enjoy watching spurs anywhere near as much when the sulky one isn't playing - so it's almost as hard for me to see Berbs on the bench as it is for our resident diva

decisions decisions

 

[Dougal]

I think there's a lot of truth there Dougal - it is a problem when you have 3 top players and only 2 can play - ask JD

I think it may be time even to give Bent a game on his own v rovers and rest both of the others- but deffo rest one of Keane or Berbs next game - and I reckon it's Berbs turn - trouble is I don't enjoy watching spurs anywhere near as much when the sulky one isn't playing - so it's almost as hard for me to see Berbs on the bench as it is for our resident diva

decisions decisions

Well that's why Ramos takes home the big paypacket, the decision is all his

 

[justfookinhitit]

As far as I'm concerned I'm taking all games between now and the end of the season as part of an extended pre-season, because let's face it that is what Ramos is doing. He's using the games to filter out who is and is not going to be around next season, and who can and cannot play where on the pitch.

 

[DC_Boy]

Well that's why Ramos takes home the big paypacket, the decision is all his

exactly dougal - and he's a lot better at it than I would be

 

[Pedro]

As far as I'm concerned I'm taking all games between now and the end of the season as part of an extended pre-season, because let's face it that is what Ramos is doing. He's using the games to filter out who is and is not going to be around next season, and who can and cannot play where on the pitch.

Agree, he should be trying things now, try different players out in the first team, but not wholesale changes. 433 is not going to work for us, so i hope he forgets about it. Instead i hope bent gets a few games, as well as kaboul and tarabt. I would like to see a lot of kaboul in particular to see if he can cut it, i have high hopes for him but worry he will be shipped out in the summer. we also need to establish whether bent is right for spurs.

 

[nowayjose]

As far as I see the tactics was not the biggest problem. They worked the first 45, spurs were the best team in the first half, let in a weird freekick. And then in the second half they lost the ability to keep hold the ball. So tactics that worked in the first half cant alone be so wrong in a unchanged second half?

 

[Liquidator]

I think we're clear why Senor Ramos played Bent - but for the entire season our two striker's have been the only near perfect aspect of the team.

It doesn't take a genius to realise that - when our problem all season has been poor defending - taking a man out of midfield, and consequently losing defensive cover against the likes of Owen, Martins, and Viduka is asking for trouble.

Even bloody Butt got on the score sheet - and normally he couldn't score on 'dress-down Friday' at a brothel.

:bang:

(Except Butty does seem to have a knack of scoring against us - that's 3 now, isn't it??)

 

[lifeof...]

Bent was shoe-horned into the team without getting Keane and Berbatov's backs up by dropping either of them. As an experiment it didn't really work. Ramos will learn and move forward. I'd rather he mess about now than come August though.

I agree totally. I just think even with the change of system we had the game and then just lost all desire to play - that was the dissopointing thing.

As far as I'm concerned I'm taking all games between now and the end of the season as part of an extended pre-season, because let's face it that is what Ramos is doing. He's using the games to filter out who is and is not going to be around next season, and who can and cannot play where on the pitch.

Think all these are pretty much spot on, But What disapointed me most was just the total lack of motivation, i missed the 1st 30mins, but it just looked like all of the players, to a lessor or greater degree didn't give a fuck......What the players produced was just not accpetable