Pochettino quiet on Alderweireld's future as £25m release clause expires

[Bulletspur]

£25m for Alder is a fucking bargain, cant believe no-one came in for him. Yet that useless donkey Maguire is £80+m ? lol yeah ok.

Amazing - I can hardly believe it. Great for us, though.

You sound like the clueless pundits and press who have been spouting this rhetoric . How do you know clubs have not shown an interest by triggering this clause? Even if triggered Toby still has the right to turn them done for whatever reason, which in all likelihood is the case. Triggering the clause does not mean he then has to go.

 

[sebo_sek]

£25m for Alder is a fucking bargain, cant believe no-one came in for him. Yet that useless donkey Maguire is £80+m ? lol yeah ok.

I think his agent got a clear message that he is going to honour his contract and is passing it on to potential suitors.

 

[bandido]

So the question now is: will he accept a new contract from us? Or will he leave on a free next season?

 

[tiger666]

So the question now is: will he accept a new contract from us? Or will he leave on a free next season?

I'd say he leaves on a free, though that's based on nothing at all. Any overseas club can approach him to offer a contract in 5 months

 

[ostrov]

The big fat asshole Adrian Durham in his peerless manner claims that Toby is simply not good enough and 30 years old.
And Spurs fans deluded of course... What an asshole he is.

https://talksport.com/football/5787...tspur-fans-transfer-toby-alderweireld-future/

 

[tiger666]

The big fat asshole Adrian Durham in his peerless manner claims that Toby is simply not good enough and 30 years old.
And Spurs fans deluded of course... What an asshole he is.

https://talksport.com/football/5787...tspur-fans-transfer-toby-alderweireld-future/

Durham is great at his job.

 

[ralvy]

The big fat asshole Adrian Durham in his peerless manner claims that Toby is simply not good enough and 30 years old.
And Spurs fans deluded of course... What an asshole he is.

https://talksport.com/football/5787...tspur-fans-transfer-toby-alderweireld-future/

How much I wish everyone else in football shared that same opinion, then we could keep him until he stops being awesome enough.

 

[ostrov]

Durham is great at his job.

This does not prevent him from being an asshole.

 

[tiger666]

This does not prevent him from being an asshole.

Fair comment

 

[whitesocks]

To all the folks that maintain that Poch doesn't have the responsibility to keep fans updated on player movements, are you saying fans do not have a right to information about players (in particular, movements, contracts, injuries), or that it's someone else's job and if so who.

Nowadays fans expect to keep updated and responding to the media scrum, as soulless a job that often is, is just a matter of course today...

He treats press conferences with contempt. Fans are attempting to intrude on his turf as he sees it and he is having none of it, imo.

I dare say he treats the players the same way too if they ask questions beyond their exact briefing. He's in charge and this is no democracy. And if he is crossed, then there is no coming back. Very much in the Fergy mould.

Of course like all dictators, he is absolutely charming and his charisma has most players running through walls for him. Currently you can't argue his methods don't work.

 

[Lilbaz]

To all the folks that maintain that Poch doesn't have the responsibility to keep fans updated on player movements, are you saying fans do not have a right to information about players (in particular, movements, contracts, injuries), or that it's someone else's job and if so who.

Nowadays fans expect to keep updated and responding to the media scrum, as soulless a job that often is, is just a matter of course today...

As he said those statements would be made by the club. He is there to talk about the game (the actual football) not what goes on behind the scenes. He does not negotiate the contracts or negotiate buying players.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

An observation from my cousin in America (he was on CNN a couple of times last week, pundit-ing on the subject of Robert Mueller's testimony and the questions the Democrats should have asked him):

There was an interesting piece on ESPN online the other day, suggesting that the reason there wasn’t much interest in Eriksen and Alderweireld was that teams think that Pochettino has melded a group of players into a team that is greater than the sum of its parts, and that a player who performs splendidly in his system might not do as well in another context.

My own view is that Eriksen and Alderweireld are obviously class players in any context, but I wonder whether people think this might have affected other clubs' scouts.

Or, more subtly, that other clubs think players at Spurs are now accustomed to a unified squad spirit and might not fit so well into more fractious and clique-ridden club cultures.

 

[bomberH]

An observation from my cousin in America (he was on CNN a couple of times last week, pundit-ing on the subject of Robert Mueller's testimony and the questions the Democrats should have asked him):



My own view is that Eriksen and Alderweireld are obviously class players in any context, but I wonder whether people think this might have affected other clubs' scouts.

Or, more subtly, that other clubs think players at Spurs are now accustomed to a unified squad spirit and might not fit so well into more fractious and clique-ridden club cultures.

Can’t agree with your cousin because it involves Eriksen and Alderweireld. A perfect example of what he’s suggesting would be players like Jonny Evans from Ferguson’s Utd. Players who are good footballers but are made to look better than they are and win things because of everyone else in their team and their manager. Saying Eriksen and Alderweireld are like that is an insult to how good they are. Especially Toby seeing as he was brilliant at Southampton and very good at Atletico Madrid.

Also, if what your cousin is saying is true, then anyone who came in to the team should technically succeed because it’s all about the system and spirit etc.... and we know players like N’koudou, N’jie, Stambouli and Holtby (and many more) didn’t. Whereas in my opinion, Wenger’s Arsenal of a few years back could bring in a 65 year old Ethiopian grandma, put her on the right wing and the football would be exactly the same and (reasonably) successful.

The stuff your cousin mentioned definitely happens, and there are plenty of examples, but not in the cases of CE and TA. In my opinion of course.

 

[Shadydan]

Especially when Eriksen has been outstanding for Denmark, single handedly took them to the WC so I don't buy that at all.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Can’t agree with your cousin because it involves Eriksen and Alderweireld. A perfect example of what he’s suggesting would be players like Jonny Evans from Ferguson’s Utd. Players who are good footballers but are made to look better than they are and win things because of everyone else in their team and their manager. Saying Eriksen and Alderweireld are like that is an insult to how good they are. Especially Toby seeing as he was brilliant at Southampton and very good at Atletico Madrid.

Also, if what your cousin is saying is true, then anyone who came in to the team should technically succeed because it’s all about the system and spirit etc.... and we know players like N’koudou, N’jie, Stambouli and Holtby (and many more) didn’t. Whereas in my opinion, Wenger’s Arsenal of a few years back could bring in a 65 year old Ethiopian grandma, put her on the right wing and the football would be exactly the same and (reasonably) successful.

The stuff your cousin mentioned definitely happens, and there are plenty of examples, but not in the cases of CE and TA. In my opinion of course.

Read it again. It wasn't his personal view. He was reporting an item he saw on ESPN.

This is what I think:

"My own view is that Eriksen and Alderweireld are obviously class players in any context."​

And this is what I was asking:

"I wonder whether people think this might have affected other clubs' scouts. Or, more subtly, that other clubs think players at Spurs are now accustomed to a unified squad spirit and might not fit so well into more fractious and clique-ridden club cultures."​

Why does EVERYONE assume that every sentence in every post is the "opinion" of the person who wrote it? It's the bane of modern discourse,.

 

[bomberH]

Read it again. It wasn't his personal view. He was reporting an item he saw on ESPN.

This is what I think:

"My own view is that Eriksen and Alderweireld are obviously class players in any context."​

And this is what I was asking:

"I wonder whether people think this might have affected other clubs' scouts. Or, more subtly, that other clubs think players at Spurs are now accustomed to a unified squad spirit and might not fit so well into more fractious and clique-ridden club cultures."​

Why does EVERYONE assume that every sentence in every post is the "opinion" of the person who wrote it? It's the bane of modern discourse,.

Overreaction much? Your cousin obviously thought it was a good point or he wouldn’t have picked up on it, as you wouldn’t have. The only issue here is that I thought your cousin said it but it turns out your cousin didn’t say it, but has posted his opinion on it, as you have, because he very blatantly thinks it’s a valid point. Your whole reply was you telling me that and nothing about the actual points made. Thanks.

My points still remain the same no matter whose opinion it was. I know what you said re Eriksen and Toby being world class and I agree. I don’t agree with what your cousin has picked up on, which is clearly what my response is based around. It’s quite simple so you don’t really have to do the whole massive overreaction thing with your last paragraph. You could’ve just pointed out that your cousin didn’t actually post that (with one simple sentence) and then continue the debate.

I wish posters would reply to the point in hand. It’s the BANE of modern discourse!

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Your cousin obviously thought it was a good point or he wouldn’t have picked up on it, as you wouldn’t have. The only issue here is that I thought your cousin said it but it turns out your cousin didn’t say it, but has posted his opinion on it, as you have, because he very blatantly thinks it’s a valid point. Your whole reply was you telling me that and nothing about the actual points made. Thanks.

He sent it to me to ask what I thought - whether I agreed with it, because he didn't know.

I posted it here because I thought it showed what other clubs may be thinking, as is obvious from my post.

No one seems to be interested in discussing that. They just assume it's my "opinion".

The other bane of modern discourse is people not reading posts carefully .

 

[bomberH]

He sent it to me to ask what I thought - whether I agreed with it, because he didn't know.

I posted it here because I thought it showed what other clubs may be thinking, as is obvious from my post.

No one seems to be interested in discussing that. They just assume it's my "opinion".

The other bane of modern discourse is people not reading posts carefully .

But I didn’t assume it was your opinion, I assumed it was your cousins... the part that was your opinion - about Eriksen and Toby being world class in any context, I agree with. The parts you posted on behalf of your cousin, I didn’t agree with.

You say ‘no one seems to be interested in discussing that’, but that’s exactly what I’ve done! As I said earlier, regardless of whose opinions they are, I’ve covered the points made in your cousins post. I’m good like that.

Happy Sunday David.