Gaz_Gammon
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Pochettino v Van Gaal: the man with a plan against the man without one?
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sherbornespurs
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“I was a fan of Tottenham during my childhood, Jimmy Greaves was my idol. Those fantastic white shirts. And Jimmy Greaves … ”
Hang on a minute, Louis.....that was ME !!!
Hang on a minute, Louis.....that was ME !!!
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I'm not usually the kind of guy who says "I told you so" but I did say this on 10 April, 2014 - so I do have to say "I told you so"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_van_Gaal
What is it about this guy exactly that makes him this Messiah everyone perceives him to be? Look at his record.
He managed Barcelona in the late 90s and won stuff but fought with everyone. He failed to qualify with the dutch national team for the 2002 World Cup behind Ireland and Portugal. He then took Barcelona to within in 3 points of the relegation zone and left. He then joined Ajax and quit after internal conflicts. He joined a mid table dutch side AZ and won one trophy in 4 years. He took over Bayern Munich and after a slow start won the double in the first year. He was then sacked after another slow start in the second year. He is now the dutch national team manager.
Seriously wtf has this 62 year old guy done in the last 15 years to show that he can change the culture of a club from top to bottom. His career has been filled with internal conflicts, slow starts and a lack of results. We seem to be star struck because of his exotic name and his "I don't take crap from anyone" demeanor which doesn't seem to have worked anywhere. And now we want him to come to a new league which is the toughest in the world and to a club trying to breach the top 4? Sounds like a typical Spurs fck up waiting to happen. Fck him.
He won the champions league with Ajax 20 years ago!! In 1995! This was in a bygone area where you can have a team of young players to work with for a few years and mold them into a team. These days if a kid can tie his shoelaces by 5, a club will sign him up. Pressures by club Boards are unprecedented.
As for the titles in three leagues - one was dutch with AZ in his fourth year (Steve Mclaren won it with Twente in his third year to put that league into context), the German one was with Bayern Munich and that too after recruiting Robben and having half the German national side at his disposal and la liga was in the late 90s. This guy is a spent force. He is living off past glories.
In simple terms he has won 1 dutch title, 1 German title and 1 German cup in the last 15 years of his career! He is anything but an upgrade.
I seriously do not know how he is going to improve us without spending loads of money. Can't see Levy giving him as much freedom as he tends to want. If we are going to recruit someone else, it has to be someone with premier league experience and success. I can't see anyone out there. The top 4 managers are booked. We are 5th. I don't want anyone below us. Harry maybe ? I don't know. But not Van Gaal
For me back a young tough passionate coach like Tim any day of the week. And people slamming Tim (and also Harry when he was in charge) for their "lack of education" and "lack of sophistication" and "lack of tactical awareness" - Harry got us into the top 4 twice and Tim's premier league results are the best of any Spurs manager. I couldn't care less where Harry and Tim come from - or how they present themselves - if they can keep doing that.
Poch has done a great job since coming on board with the players at his disposal - promoting youth and fitness with a clear style of play. Young and passionate, he will hopefully be given time for the future. COYS!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_van_Gaal
What is it about this guy exactly that makes him this Messiah everyone perceives him to be? Look at his record.
He managed Barcelona in the late 90s and won stuff but fought with everyone. He failed to qualify with the dutch national team for the 2002 World Cup behind Ireland and Portugal. He then took Barcelona to within in 3 points of the relegation zone and left. He then joined Ajax and quit after internal conflicts. He joined a mid table dutch side AZ and won one trophy in 4 years. He took over Bayern Munich and after a slow start won the double in the first year. He was then sacked after another slow start in the second year. He is now the dutch national team manager.
Seriously wtf has this 62 year old guy done in the last 15 years to show that he can change the culture of a club from top to bottom. His career has been filled with internal conflicts, slow starts and a lack of results. We seem to be star struck because of his exotic name and his "I don't take crap from anyone" demeanor which doesn't seem to have worked anywhere. And now we want him to come to a new league which is the toughest in the world and to a club trying to breach the top 4? Sounds like a typical Spurs fck up waiting to happen. Fck him.
He won the champions league with Ajax 20 years ago!! In 1995! This was in a bygone area where you can have a team of young players to work with for a few years and mold them into a team. These days if a kid can tie his shoelaces by 5, a club will sign him up. Pressures by club Boards are unprecedented.
As for the titles in three leagues - one was dutch with AZ in his fourth year (Steve Mclaren won it with Twente in his third year to put that league into context), the German one was with Bayern Munich and that too after recruiting Robben and having half the German national side at his disposal and la liga was in the late 90s. This guy is a spent force. He is living off past glories.
In simple terms he has won 1 dutch title, 1 German title and 1 German cup in the last 15 years of his career! He is anything but an upgrade.
I seriously do not know how he is going to improve us without spending loads of money. Can't see Levy giving him as much freedom as he tends to want. If we are going to recruit someone else, it has to be someone with premier league experience and success. I can't see anyone out there. The top 4 managers are booked. We are 5th. I don't want anyone below us. Harry maybe ? I don't know. But not Van Gaal
For me back a young tough passionate coach like Tim any day of the week. And people slamming Tim (and also Harry when he was in charge) for their "lack of education" and "lack of sophistication" and "lack of tactical awareness" - Harry got us into the top 4 twice and Tim's premier league results are the best of any Spurs manager. I couldn't care less where Harry and Tim come from - or how they present themselves - if they can keep doing that.
Poch has done a great job since coming on board with the players at his disposal - promoting youth and fitness with a clear style of play. Young and passionate, he will hopefully be given time for the future. COYS!!
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UbeAstard
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But you seem to be also indirectly dismissive of Pochettinho here.
rupsmith
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I agree - didn't know enough about Poch. And if he had been offered to us at the time I would have said no because I didn't want anymore change and disruption when we seemed to be doing ok under Tim. I certainly didn't want LVG though
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