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Kingellesar

This is the way
May 2, 2005
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Leicester look good for 3rd, yeah. And I know its Chelsea, but Lampard is doing all the right things with a talented young squad, and has time on his side.

We'll get over this as well... what ever needs to happen will happen one way or another.

I really like the look of Leicester, I think they will be 4th or 5th. I still think Chelsea can get 3rd if Tammy keeps scoring, if he drops off then I think they have big issues because they don't have much behind him. Giroud I'm not sure can get them goals and Batshuayi seems to be off in January?
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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Yeah, true. Who knows, maybe Wilder will get a chance at a top club when Poch leaves. I’m sure we’d all be delighted with that.
We'll see. We've seen a lot of people on this site turning their noses up at "project" managers these last few weeks, those people would want an Allegri, Mourinho or whatever to come in instead, but I still think that's the long term way to go for us.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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Well City are still 7 points ahead of us, despite us holding them and them having a couple losses. And that gap will continue to grow throughout the seasonI have no doubt about that. We got absolutely battered in that game and how we came away with a point is a miracle but then we all thought we could be competitive this season.....

Big teams will always have the smaller teams raise the game against them I'm not questioning that, there is a reason our league is the best league to watch because you get so many unexpected results but when we have struggled since January in the league and got beaten by every man and his dog, a certain pattern emerges....that we are not very good and teams are aware of this and taking advantage. I just don't understand how a team can go from 3/2/3/4 to suddenly not being able to beat anything put in front of them.

The Newcastle result was annoying but as I've said, I thought it might wake the team up (we threw away a 2-0 lead against Arsenal following this result but yes we did thrash Palace and looked good). Brighton was going to be tough, our away form has been dreadful for 10 months but to not even look threatening against them was poor, if we had at least given them a game, you could understand but having shipped 7 to Bayern a few days before, to then go to Brighton and ship another 3 without response is ridiculous, I don't care where Brighton are in the table but for a team with our aspirations it isn't good enough.

Then we come to Watford, yet to win a game this season, thrashed by City 8-0, most goals conceded, fewest goals scored.....and we go and draw 1-1....we just lack any sort of creativity at the moment and our defence has turned into a relegation form defence, literally no idea how we turn this around with this squad.

I agree with you on the arrogance point, I think a lot of our players think they are much better than they are and its causing a big problem, Jan and Toby WERE the best partnership in the premier league 2/3 seasons ago yet now I'm not even sure Watford would want them:cautious:
1) This period gets longer... at first it was April, then February, now its January... Despite us actually winning 3 of the 5 away games we played back then, 3 of which were cup ties, and of those 1 was a penalty shootout. We also beat Dortmund and Ajax away in the champions league, unless people have already forgotten this.

2) And that's patently not true. Either of them would walk into any top side. Man City would love a defender like Toby right now, so Pep didn't have to play midfielders in defence.

Anyway, thread derailing in progress, apologies.
 

King of Otters

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We'll see. We've seen a lot of people on this site turning their noses up at "project" managers these last few weeks, those people would want an Allegri, Mourinho or whatever to come in instead, but I still think that's the long term way to go for us.

I agree, but I must insist that our next manager is tanned and looks nice in a suit.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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I agree, but I must insist that our next manager is tanned and looks nice in a suit.
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Kingellesar

This is the way
May 2, 2005
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1) This period gets longer... at first it was April, then February, now its January... Despite us actually winning 3 of the 5 away games we played back then, 3 of which were cup ties, and of those 1 was a penalty shootout. We also beat Dortmund and Ajax away in the champions league, unless people have already forgotten this.

2) And that's patently not true. Either of them would walk into any top side. Man City would love a defender like Toby right now, so Pep didn't have to play midfielders in defence.

Anyway, thread derailing in progress, apologies.

Point 1 - well I was talking about league, as we were discussing league form. Pretty sure we are 2 wins, 2 draws and 8 losses in 2019 away from home, not good.

I really don't see any of the elite clubs looking at Toby currently, if they are then they can't have watched his form so far this season, he looks out of sorts which most of the squad do. I'm still hopeful we can turn it around I'm just struggling to see how at this moment in time unless we can get some fresh faces in the squad, Lo Celso mainly.

One good thing this weekend is that Arsenal play Palace and Chelsea play Burnley so both have tricky fixtures, if we could somehow get something from Liverpool and they both drop points, perhaps that could be the comeback we need.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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Point 1 - well I was talking about league, as we were discussing league form. Pretty sure we are 2 wins, 2 draws and 8 losses in 2019 away from home, not good.

I really don't see any of the elite clubs looking at Toby currently, if they are then they can't have watched his form so far this season, he looks out of sorts which most of the squad do. I'm still hopeful we can turn it around I'm just struggling to see how at this moment in time unless we can get some fresh faces in the squad, Lo Celso mainly.

One good thing this weekend is that Arsenal play Palace and Chelsea play Burnley so both have tricky fixtures, if we could somehow get something from Liverpool and they both drop points, perhaps that could be the comeback we need.
I've seen this argument plenty as well. Completely disregarding the 3 months break in between. Football is played over seasons, not calendar years. Each season is different.

Last seasons form was last seasons form. Different circumstances.

This seasons form is this seasons form. Unique to itself.

The only unifying factor is the last summer's transfer-less window. Its why we were blowing out of our collective arses in the last 10 games of 2018/19, and why we have unmotivated contract rebels in 2019/20.

Otherwise its as lazy a period of time to judge over as it was when Harry Kane got 40 goals in a calendar year.
 

glacierSpurs

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Sep 28, 2013
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Leicester will definitely drop points in some weird sense against the lower teams. They will be like the occasional Burnley and last season Wolves who are somehow better than the rest at gaining some points against the top 6 but dropped points unexpectedly. They will be 6th or 7th at the end of season IMO. Best they are 18th and below for me.
 

mattyzb

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Leicester will definitely drop points in some weird sense against the lower teams. They will be like the occasional Burnley and last season Wolves who are somehow better than the rest at gaining some points against the top 6 but dropped points unexpectedly. They will be 6th or 7th at the end of season IMO. Best they are 18th and below for me.
I’ve heard that before ?
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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First time I’ve heard of this sort of thing happening. If I was a Palace fan I would be a bit concerned. Seems like with all the money in the game they are going for a large capital project while seemingly spending too much on wages for some of their players.

Appears some other teams have done it before though.

 

TheChosenOne

A dislike or neg rep = fat fingers
Dec 13, 2005
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I swear Leicester have done a deal with The Devil to get where they are in life.
 
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