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Oscar22

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There’s an absolute ton of international games they could get rid of tbf, but added time and time saying needs tackling and isn’t the root of their problems here.
 

FibreOpticJesus

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Agree with this, if they could also look at the stupid timings of fixtures also, that'd be great.
There are too many games. So I have sympathy with what Varane and Guardiola have said in the last few days. But the simple solution to this new initiative is to stop wasting time in matches.
That's why the squad size was increased to 25, plus u21's and 5 sub rule and the xmas break. Clubs and players moaning all the time. I know this is pet hate by Simon Jordon on talksport. Are the clubs going to reduce the season ticket prices and are the players going to take a drop in salary. Exactly.
 

Sjhawuk

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To me this new rule just seems a way to get away with bigger teams like we have seen with arse and Utd keep playing untill they score if they need to win to keep a more interesting title race

can see arse loosing and then 15 mins of injury time and now no one will be able to complain, just another way to be corrupt and technically get away with it in my opinion cos u can garuntee some games will get lots of added time and some won’t with no clear explanation or difference
 

PCozzie

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My main issue with the injury time guidance is that it will become more and more difficult, both for players and fans, to guage when the game will actually finish. Imagine approaching the 88th minute 1-0 up and not know whether you need to defend for another 5 minutes, or 15 minutes. Then how much more after that? A couple of cards and a VAR call in added time and there's another two or three minutes to deal with.

I can understand the desire to cover goal celebrations, injuries, VAR etc, but would a better way not be to physically stop the clock rather than have this semi-secret, almost arbitrary extra-time announced right at the end?
 

cwy21

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My main issue with the injury time guidance is that it will become more and more difficult, both for players and fans, to guage when the game will actually finish. Imagine approaching the 88th minute 1-0 up and not know whether you need to defend for another 5 minutes, or 15 minutes. Then how much more after that? A couple of cards and a VAR call in added time and there's another two or three minutes to deal with.

I can understand the desire to cover goal celebrations, injuries, VAR etc, but would a better way not be to physically stop the clock rather than have this semi-secret, almost arbitrary extra-time announced right at the end?
You should have a pretty good idea of if it will be closer to 5 or 15 well before the board goes up.
 

PCozzie

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You should have a pretty good idea of if it will be closer to 5 or 15 well before the board goes up.
How many times have we watched a game and expected 2 and got 6 or vice versa? They're just opening the door to the conspiracy theorists when (eg) Man Utd get another 12 minutes at home to Bournemouth when they're 2-1 down.

I think in the players and managers should have a more accurate idea of how much longer they will be playing for, and it shouldn't be beyond the officials to be able to hit the stop button when VAR gets involved, or a goal is scored. Rugby manages it perfectly easily.
 

cwy21

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How many times have we watched a game and expected 2 and got 6 or vice versa? They're just opening the door to the conspiracy theorists when (eg) Man Utd get another 12 minutes at home to Bournemouth when they're 2-1 down.

I think in the players and managers should have a more accurate idea of how much longer they will be playing for, and it shouldn't be beyond the officials to be able to hit the stop button when VAR gets involved, or a goal is scored. Rugby manages it perfectly easily.

The conspiracy theorists already exist. If you watch a game as a true neutral I'd wager you're never surprised at added time. Its only when Spurs are up a goal that SC is incredulous at it being 5 minutes and it's only when Spurs are down a goal that people can't understand it only being 5. I can guarantee if you watch a match with no rooting interest you'll never be thinking 2 and see 6.
 

simsy886

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The same goes for the new dissent rules. Players and coaches have had their way on this for far too long, bullying and haranguing refs and officials. It’s spilling over into the amateur and youth levels now, where that kind of behaviour can lead to really nasty incidents. It’s beyond time that this should be addressed, if players get booked or sent off, it’s their own fault. My only concern is they’ll allow some to get away with it while cracking down on others.

Winner this. Some of the incidents I've seen at Sunday League games are out and out crimes. It needs to be stamped out completely, it's simply unacceptable.
 

Oscar22

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Skys coverage is so cringe

This horrific line up of Americans involved in financing Burnley, and most of them are “Oh yeah totally! We love the way the guys, they, like totally kick the ball in the net thing! It’s so quirky ya’ll!”

Just start the game already 🤦🏻‍♂️
 

rebrab

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This horrific line up of Americans involved in financing Burnley, and most of them are “Oh yeah totally! We love the way the guys, they, like totally kick the ball in the net thing! It’s so quirky ya’ll!”

Just start the game already 🤦🏻‍♂️
So accurate. Like watching NBC sports
 

Marty

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Mar 10, 2005
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Kinell the new lineup graphic on the international feed is awful.

You Brits watching Sky probably don't get that.
 

Cel

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He's right that there are too many games. Those international games after club seasons end are pointless. None of them want to be playing.

As for timekeeping I hope that 10 minutes stoppage time isn't the new default and the referees have their final call. I think it's important to note it worked at the World Cup because all the stadiums were within a city complex. Imagine a midweek night game, the game finishes 10pm and you've got a long trip back home for work in the morning. People locally leave ten minutes early now to catch the last trains but now you're essentially going to be pay for a ticket and not see potentially 30 minutes of football.
I'm guessing the point is if you don't want to play an extra 10 minutes, stop wasting bloody time going down for fake injuries, taking ages putting the ball back in play etc etc
 

Frank Blank

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Such is our fall from grace that back in the day we'd have more than a passing interest in Shiteh dropping points. Nowadays no-one gives a rat's arse because we're more concerned about teams such as Villa and Brighton dropping points.
 

Oscar22

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Let’s see if the refs stick to the plans for kicking the ball away and managers staying in their lanes then eh….
 
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