Premier League 2023/2024

[Cochise]

Havertz caught the standing leg with his trailing leg, it looks worse than it is and not worth more than a yellow. Guimaraes is an assault charge, how VAR cleared it I've no idea and the FA should do a retrospective ban on him. It was deliberate and nowhere near a challenge for the ball.

The ball crossing the line is unclear. The ref is the only official near enough to see it and he didn't give it at the time. Unless VAR can clearly say it's run over then they can't cancel it out. The angle they have to work with isn't good enough.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

How sad for them.

 

[DarwinSpur]

Because Havertz didn't make any contact, his foot was low, and he only hit him with his trailing leg.

https://dubz.co/mc/af507b

Guimaraes literally ran up and elbowed someone in the back of the head off the ball.

Ffs - he's out of control and it's only blind luck Havertz hasn't broken a leg just like it was blind luck (and quick reactions) that Vicario's leg wasn't broken by Nketiah. Both of those were reckless and dangerous and absolutely red card offences.

 

[djhotspur]

Did Saka even play today. They were hyping him up to be some generational talent

 

[djhotspur]

I know it's arsenal.....


But is no one worried about the flagrant corruption from the officials?

That guimaraes decision was outrageous.

We still have to play the saudis twice this season.

Think people's opinions are going to change wildly after the same shit happens when we play Newcastle.

If it was corruption havertz would have been sent off. He then also made a number of fouls afterwards as well

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

They were both red cards.

No way havertz was a red. Trailing leg caught him.

 

[arunspurs]

Did Saka even play today. They were hyping him up to be some generational talent

Saka been over worked for 2 years now. Clearly fitness issues catching up with him

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

No way havertz was a red. Trailing leg caught him.

I wouldn't say "no way" - it was a pretty reckless challenge, leaving his feet like that, and fortunate not to hit him higher/harder.

Bruno G - honestly, that should be a retroactive Red. First, he deserves it for an intentional blow to the head. And second - it would be glorious to see all the Arsenal fans lose their heads over it not being a RC during the game.

 

[djhotspur]

No way havertz was a red. Trailing leg caught him.

But it’s dangerous play. The rule is it reckless play endangering an opponent? Yes it is he’s jumped studs showing at his front leg whilst leaving the floor

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

But it’s dangerous play. The rule is it reckless play endangering an opponent? Yes it is he’s jumped studs showing at his front leg whilst leaving the floor

No red for me

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

I wouldn't say "no way" - it was a pretty reckless challenge, leaving his feet like that, and fortunate not to hit him higher/harder.

Bruno G - honestly, that should be a retroactive Red. First, he deserves it for an intentional blow to the head. And second - it would be glorious to see all the Arsenal fans lose their heads over it not being a RC during the game.

Bruno...yes. retrospectively...

 

[RuskyM]

Did Saka even play today. They were hyping him up to be some generational talent

He is; as pointed out though, he’s absolutely knackered. No idea why Arteta sent him on on Wednesday. Add that to the list of bewildering choices he’s making.

 

[floydiohead]

This isn't even parody hahaha

Ah yes, the old field tilt. What about goals, or don't they count?

 

[chilespurs]

Why do they keep pulling out these dodgy angle photos ffs. So it's not clear and obvious is it?

That looks in to me.

 

[cjbyid]

Did Saka even play today. They were hyping him up to be some generational talent

Arteta is ruining him.

 

[DarwinSpur]

No way havertz was a red. Trailing leg caught him.

Did you completely miss the part where he's off both his feet and therefore not in any control making his tackle dangerous and therefore a red card?

Same for Nketiah on Vicario. These types of tackles used to be automatic red cards for the very simple and good reason that REGARDLESS OF CONTACT the very act is reckless endangerment.

SO I don't care if he didn't make any contact whatsoever - his very action should be a red card offence.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Why? Even with that win they are 4 points behind Arsenal. A Newcastle win was absolutely the best result for us.

Because it would have meant 4 points dropped by rivals instead of three. The fact that Newcastle won suggests they're likely to make ground up on both of us.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Did you completely miss the part where he's off both his feet and therefore not in any control making his tackle dangerous and therefore a red card?

Same for Nketiah on Vicario. These types of tackles used to be automatic red cards for the very simple and good reason that REGARDLESS OF CONTACT the very act is reckless endangerment.

SO I don't care if he didn't make any contact whatsoever - his very action should be a red card offence.

Depends how far you go back...these used to be everyday challenges in the 70s/80s

 

[chilespurs]

So if the VAR spent the 30 seconds checking the ball out of play and the push but it turns out the player was clearly offside you'd be okay with that because the clock hit zero?

Yes. Don't have a problem with not spotting an error within the 30 seconds. At the moment var is not working well. Football isn't an exact science, nuance and human judgement comes into play. There will always be errors vut at the moment things aren't clear. Othwerwise replace the whole thing with ai.

 

[Metalhead]

Because it would have meant 4 points dropped by rivals instead of three. The fact that Newcastle won suggests they're likely to make ground up on both of us.

We should only worry about what we do. Determined not to give a shit about any other team this season. I'm just enjoying our renaissance under Ange.