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Race for the Top 4 - 2017/18

Everlasting Seconds

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United and Arse are the vulnerable ones. For me Chels and Scouse look too strong to not finish in top 4.
Chelsea super vulnerable too. Not really THAT much better than us. I think we can overtake one of all of them and finish top 4.

Not sure how related this is but why on earth are we playing on Tuesday then on Thursday?
Gave us a full week's rest though. You win some you lose some.
 

walworthyid

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Oct 25, 2004
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United and Arse are the vulnerable ones. For me Chels and Scouse look too strong to not finish in top 4.
I agree but it is not about them, it is all about us. Poch will focus entirely on what we do and so will the players. Pool have just gone 15 games unbeaten and are scoring for fun. We on the other hand have been struggling with injuries and form yet, if we win our game in hand we are 1 point behind them. The same can be said of United, they were the only ones in the title race a couple of weeks ago, now they are only 7 pts ahead with a game more played.

We will almost certainly get better in the second half of the season. Although it will be a battle, I would be very surprised if we aren't in the top 4 come the end of the season. I actually think we will be second or third.
 

stevenurse

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May 14, 2007
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No room for a slip up this week. Swansea's win today will mean they can afford to stick 11 behind the ball and frustrate us like they did at Wembley, then West Ham will of course be up for it in their cup final.
 

stevenurse

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Why are arsenal and Chelsea playing on weds? that has given arsenal a full two days rest between games whereas everyone else only has one. is a conspiracy and an agenda I tell ya!
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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Why are arsenal and Chelsea playing on weds? that has given arsenal a full two days rest between games whereas everyone else only has one. is a conspiracy and an agenda I tell ya!
Chelsea get a day more rest than Arse as they played today. Not sure what you're getting at.
 

stevenurse

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May 14, 2007
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Chelsea get a day more rest than Arse as they played today. Not sure what you're getting at.

Tongue in cheek comment about arsenal having more days rest than most. Don't see what's not to get. Yes Chelsea may benefit on Wednesday but everyone else is playing two games in 3 days.
 

lukespurs7

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Feb 21, 2006
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No room for a slip up this week. Swansea's win today will mean they can afford to stick 11 behind the ball and frustrate us like they did at Wembley, then West Ham will of course be up for it in their cup final.
Have to and should win both if we want to stay in top4 race
 

coys200

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May 22, 2017
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West Ham have 5 or 6 injured. Small old squad,the WBA game is huge for them now.Be pretty mentally draining for them as well Absolute must win. Some of this scheduling is madness though can’t believe liverpool v Everton is Friday night for FA cup totally unnecessary.
 

Lilbaz

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Apr 1, 2005
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West Ham have 5 or 6 injured. Small old squad,the WBA game is huge for them now.Be pretty mentally draining for them as well Absolute must win. Some of this scheduling is madness though can’t believe liverpool v Everton is Friday night for FA cup totally unnecessary.

Friday night's I don't get. Most people are out on a Friday night. Sunday night's I could understand. People at home, would be good for American and South American audiences as well.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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Keita is nothing like Kante other than skin colour and stature. When will this ridiculous comparison go away? They are about as different as two central midfielders can be.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Lets agree to disagree... I really cant respect his work when he can only achieve what he does with exorbitant sums of money....

He won some trophies in Germany but couldn't win the CL because he did mot have vast sums of cash.

Do you not accept that there’s a skill in taking already good players and turning them into great players? Because that’s what Guardiola did at Barcelona and that’s what he’s doing now. Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Valdes and, upon signing, Pique all went from good or very good players, playing at maybe 75/80% of their potential, to world class players maximising their potential. Messi, well we know he was a great talent, we know he is the greatest of all time, he may have reached these heights regardless but the fact is that he did so under Guardiola’s stewardship.

Getting decent players to play above themselves is a great skill, but so is getting the best players to consistently maximise their potential in the way Guardiola does more than any other manager. De Bruyne, Sterling, Stones, even the likes of less glamorous Otamendi and Delph, all playing the best football of their lives.
 

piedpiper

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Do you not accept that there’s a skill in taking already good players and turning them into great players? Because that’s what Guardiola did at Barcelona and that’s what he’s doing now. Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Valdes and, upon signing, Pique all went from good or very good players, playing at maybe 75/80% of their potential, to world class players maximising their potential. Messi, well we know he was a great talent, we know he is the greatest of all time, he may have reached these heights regardless but the fact is that he did so under Guardiola’s stewardship.

Getting decent players to play above themselves is a great skill, but so is getting the best players to consistently maximise their potential in the way Guardiola does more than any other manager. De Bruyne, Sterling, Stones, even the likes of less glamorous Otamendi and Delph, all playing the best football of their lives.

No i cant.. I really really cant. Barcelona won the CL before him being there.. Sure it was loads of trophies..
With City he has unlimited resources.. Dare i say that Poch would do the same with that city side with the same resources. Klopp would Mourinho would..
So no.. Im not saying this to be controversial.. But i cant respect his achievements or City's for that matter. They buying trophies.. Same with Chelsea.

I respect what Tinkerman did at Leicester or Wenger did at Arsenal.. But not what City do. Certainly not Guardiola..

Bring Guardiola to Spurs and he would fare no better than Poch. So that does not make him any more special.

The playing fields aren't level.
 
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