Ref for the Liverpool Game

[Ledders Army]

We might not have been very good tonight, but why should we have to beat the ref too. People need to start realising what goes on in this awful league. We came to anfield on a week day when our fans had been working and their fans sleeping and went for the win. With a ref 60-40 in favour of the home team we would not have lost and we were poor today. Why should we play at least 12 (14 today) men everytime we come to a sky 4 ground?

 

[ShelfSide18]

Webb was absolutely terrible tonight, but I've spent my entire Spurs life making excuses about shit decisions - I just wish we'd just carry on and get the job done regardless - it's what the best teams do. We fizzled out tonight after about 75 minutes when we should have laid siege - seems to be a mentality issue to me.

 

[ultimateloner]

Gets lots of machines in to replace the refs.

 

[ShelfSide18]

Gets lots of machines in to replace the refs.

They'd be even worse, programmed by the Fa to favour the top teams!

 

[nedley]

Blame the ref if it helps, but we were not good enough tonight.

Agree. But my point will be that had we had a penalty, the goal or any bloody decision from the start we would have ripped them a new one.

 

[nedley]

Ref for Liverpool game

It appears its Howard Webb. Whats the odds on the Scousers getting a penalty with him in charge.Thought this guy was a superb ref.Seems to me that he is letting it slip the past season or two.Who can forget his howler at Man USA against us.

Repped for prediction.

 

[Chimbo!]

I never complain about the refereeing because more often then not a controversial decision would have been so, whichever course of action was taken by the referee.

However, yesterday saw some very poor refereeing, which I thought hindered the game and potentially distorted the result. On the balance of play Liverpool deserved to win but when we had momentum in the 2nd half a perfectly good goal was disallowed.

I could have forgiven the decision if it was for a foul on Reina because at least it would have been the referee/ linesman misinterpreting what was going on. However, to give the goal as offside when the opposition were in possession at the time, flies in the face of reason. I do not even know how you can even think it is offside. If the rules were applied correctly in that instance then no player can ever stray offside because if they do, they will be offside even when the opposition has possession. Strikers will be offside all the time. At what point does a player stop being offside? When the referee feels like it?

What an awful, awful, awful decision.

The shirt pulling incident is just a case of bad luck. It is ironic that two penalties this week were given for shirt-pulling outside the box. The only shirt-pulling of note to occur inside the box was not given. In fact The defending side were awarded a free-kick.

Although sometimes you have to wonder if the officials guess their way through a match, these sort of incidents are always 50-50 and they cannot be the topic of too much debate because ultimately we lost because we failed to score. If we had fashioned more clear-cut opportunities and scored them we would not have been complaining.

However, when you do score a legitimate goal and it is disallowed then you have every right to vent your frustration and criticize the officials because you earned an equalizer and through no fault of your own you were not awarded it. A referee has performed badly when his individual actions have directly influenced a change in the result from what it would have been had he made the correct decisions. In this particular case this has occurred.

 

[spurs mental]

Dermot Gallagher has just been on SSN saying Defoe's goal should have stood. He says he can't see where there was an infringement at all.

A shocking, shocking error, and it has cost us dearly.

 

[whiteheartdave]

he really has something against us dont he?????

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/28/howard-webb-referee-dropped-championship

 

[StartingPrice]

he really has something against us dont he?????

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/28/howard-webb-referee-dropped-championship

Just read the article - and can remember it at the time - especially the bit about his body language. What makes it worse is that I specifically watched for that last night, and when he disallowed JDs (totally legitimate) goal he stood his ground like there was no way on God's earth he could possibily have got it wrong (or he read the article about his own body language and was absolutely determined not to be so transparent 'this time'):shrug:

 

[michaelden]

HW - what a tosspot. What ever happened to the :andygrayisawanker: smilie? We could do with a :HWebbisaTosspot: smilie too

 

[michaelden]

he really has something against us dont he?????

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/28/howard-webb-referee-dropped-championship

Considering he's made a second serious fuck up will he be demoted to the Championship again? Fined? Bitch slapped?

Probably not as its WC year and he is the England ref representitive

 

[scorpion64]

Even refereeing in the Conference Division is too good for him.Like someone said earlier he won't get demoted because hes the FA's top ref for the World Cup.Absolute disgrace to his profession.As he was in control of the game he should have overruled his Assistant but he didnt know the rules himself.He needs to go back to the Referees school to study.

 

[StartingPrice]

Considering he's made a second serious fuck up will he be demoted to the Championship again? Fined? Bitch slapped?

Probably not as its WC year and he is the England ref representitive

This would be my preference:grin:

 

[nightgoat]

I don't see why refereeing incompetence should be punished by demoting them a division, that way some other poor bastards get Howard Webb inflicted on them (although without one of the Sky Four to favour he might just manage impartiality)... He should be dropped from officiating for a number of games...

 

[Adam456]

I'm astonished by the lack of press coverage despite the fact that the pundits picked it all up and debated it and Harry made some comments. They're all still on about how Liverpool are 'back' and whether we have the mustard to win the race for 4th

Bollox

 

[Spirit58]

he really has something against us dont he?????

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/28/howard-webb-referee-dropped-championship

Makes you wonder if the embarrasment of being dropped to the championship is the reason he appeared so biased this time, perhaps he blames us for his temporary demotion?:shrug:

 

[spurs mental]

I know its over and done with, but even Phil Thompson, the most biased Liverpool pundit on Sky, has said that Defoe's goal should have stood. Howard Webb, once again, you are a ****

 

[don1]

yeah just listen it to myself cant believe even thompson said it was a goal im even more gutted now

 

[don1]

now thompson said even the ref had a bad game:bang::bang::bang: cant take this, im turning over the channel:grin: