Rose slams pundit for being 'rude' - 'hopefully we shut him up'

[mawspurs]

Danny Rose told 'rude' pundit Ruud Gullit to 'eat his words' after their Ajax Champions League miracle.

Source: Daily Express

 

[Japhet]

It is a thing of rare beauty when a pundit gets bitch slapped like this.

 

[Shadydan]

What was Gullit's reaction after the match?

 

[SteveH]

What was Gullit's reaction after the match?

not a lot

 

[Gassin's finest]

Gullit was one of the greatest players who ever lived, but he's been right weird as a manager and pundit.

 

[worcestersauce]

Well said Danny, someone actually quoted those words from Gullet to me in one of the threads to support his argument earlier this week. Great player know-nothing tosser ever since.

 

[whitesocks]

Gullit is right.
Rose's assets are high energy and bravery.
Wanyama was a typical DM cruncher.
Alli learnt his game on the streets. He's a natural, but is never going to follow what is technically right, any more than say Rooney did.

After the game, Gullit acted as if it were the death of football - his lovely technical players undone by route-one direct anti-football.
His charge would have a better chance of sticking if that had been Andy Carroll up front instead of an Italian, and Sherwood on the bench.

But ours is an international side forged the premiership. Technical players without that desire get eaten up. That's why in the premiership Alli>>Ozil.

 

[guiltyparty]

It was harsh but Gullit's comments weren't exactly incorrect.

He said Dele, Rose and Wanyama were technically not very good in the first leg, and they weren't.

Dele and Rose had good games yesterday, but he didn't say they were shit, he said they didn't play very well in that specific game. And they didn't

Danny, I love you, and if it pisses you off use it to fuel you, but come on, players get criticised worse than this by pundits every single day.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

The same gullit who froze Alan Shearer out at Newcastle.
The blokes like Hoddle, a wonderful player and a tosser of a manager.

 

[Wearegoingtowintheleague]

The same gullit who froze Alan Shearer out at Newcastle.
The blokes like Hoddle, a wonderful player and a tosser of a manager.

Hoddle wasn't a tosser of a manager, shame on you to show such disrespect to a true THFC legend.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

a tosser of a manager.

That's a strange thing to say - what did Hoddle do that warrants that sort of label?

 

[yiddopaul]

That's a strange thing to say - what did Hoddle do that warrants that sort of label?

Indeed. He was a good manager, it was his personal life that messed it up for him. (At least with England - and therefore probably management in general)

 

[SteveH]

That's a strange thing to say - what did Hoddle do that warrants that sort of label?

His inability to not to keep his trap shut because he's a know all!
But a brilliant footballer

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Hoddle wasn't a tosser of a manager, shame on you to show such disrespect to a true THFC legend.

That's a strange thing to say - what did Hoddle do that warrants that sort of label?

His inability to not to keep his trap shut because he's a know all!
But a brilliant footballer

God/Messiah complex whereby both Hoddle and Gullit looked down on anyone that wasn't as perfect as they were.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

His inability to not to keep his trap shut because he's a know all!
But a brilliant footballer

Dude, a lot of footballers have said a lot of dumb shit and i'm sure even more believe dumb shit, but come on - this is the red tops in the middle of an era where sensationalism and pointing fingers was all the rage.

So what if he has some bizarre religious belief? He wished no-one any harm, he was picked up on one single sentence very likely either led or taken out of context, and that somehow makes him a tosser?

Before practically every game players can be seen praying at the sky - to a hypothetical being that lives "up", regardless of where you are on the earth, and who, despite his enormousness and infinite power, treats us all like some sort of sadist's toy box and watches us all the time, granting some of us wishes and punishing others for masturbating or eating fish on a friday or whatever, y'know.

Hoddle talked about Karma.

I'm struggling to find the toss in this.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

God/Messiah complex whereby both Hoddle and Gullit looked down on anyone that wasn't as perfect as they were.

Gullit, couldn't say as until this recent headline I hadn't heard from him in possibly years. Not sure why it's such a big deal if i'm honest, but Hoddle - I'd love an example of him acting godlike to a tosser level. What form did this take and where? Verbal abuse? Or was he, a man who gave 110% every game because he loved playing, taking a bunch of lazy players to task for not putting in the effort he expected of them as manager?

I don't remember him being anything other than a stern, tough-but-fair manager, so if you can change my mind then go for it.

 

[SteveH]

Dude, a lot of footballers have said a lot of dumb shit and i'm sure even more believe dumb shit, but come on - this is the red tops in the middle of an era where sensationalism and pointing fingers was all the rage.

So what if he has some bizarre religious belief? He wished no-one any harm, he was picked up on one single sentence very likely either led or taken out of context, and that somehow makes him a tosser?

Before practically every game players can be seen praying at the sky - to a hypothetical being that lives "up", regardless of where you are on the earth, and who, despite his enormousness and infinite power, treats us all like some sort of sadist's toy box and watches us all the time, granting some of us wishes and punishing others for masturbating or eating fish on a friday or whatever, y'know.

Hoddle talked about Karma.

I'm struggling to find the toss in this.

I never said “toss”

He was/is like the Harry Enfield character who always said ‘you don’t want to do it like that’.
But he could play and didn’t/doesn’t he like to tell everybody/anybody who is around him!

He probably told the guy who resuscitated he wasn’t doing it properly

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I never said “toss”

He was/is like the Harry Enfield character who always said ‘you don’t want to do it like that’.
But he could play and didn’t/doesn’t he like to tell everybody/anybody who is around him!

He probably told the guy who resuscitated he wasn’t doing it properly

The tosser thing was more for Matt, it's confused me a lot, but i'm thinking from a managerial pov.

And maybe he's sort of earned that right in a footballing sense at least. On a microscopic level in comparison, I've taught archery, canoeing and a few other bits and pieces in my time and if there's one thing that I've learned is to listen to people who know more than me and, in turn, you sometimes have to be a little bit condescending/assertive (which are much closer than the initially appear) to get through to someone on that level. Hoddle has experience and wisdom on his side and that's worth a lot, and he comes from a background where he was a captain of men, he was required to boss people about and shout the odds, so it's hardly surprising if it's leaked into his life outside of the game.

I know some un-bearable ex-military who seem to think the world should run on their routine, actively disliking people who don't keep up to their standards and, if i'm honest, it's kinda ugly but I get it. They're not rotten people this is just the way their personalities developed on their journey. Certainly not going to judge them for it because, on the flip side, i'm an incredible flake, so can't argue as they would have soooo much ammo against my disorganised, low temperature, hippy ass.

 

[Wearegoingtowintheleague]

God/Messiah complex whereby both Hoddle and Gullit looked down on anyone that wasn't as perfect as they were.

This really doesn't fit in with the academy he was running. So many young footballers who were discarded by their clubs as not making the grade went on to work with Hoddle at his academy, some going on to make it to play professional football again. I've read so much positive praise from them and very little of the Messiah complex.

yes, you'll find some professionals who diss Hoddle but that's the same for any manager. Drop a player and they will hardly say good stuff about you. But there are also plenty of professional footballers who say what a wonderful manager Hoddle was.

In respect of this, I find it harsh that you'll decide to take the opinion of a few unhappy players he dropped rather than those who praise him, especially seeing as he is a Spurs legend.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

There were many stories from around the time he was Spurs manager about his outbursts and how he managed the players.
Perhaps it was being back at Spurs that brought it out in him?