Ross Barkley

[specspurs]

This is new information. Two national newspapers, independently of each other, have both written a story about Barkley expecting £150k. They didn't both make up a story and coincidentally come up with the same figure. What we do know is Barkley is asking for a similar amount to stay at Everton. When the story breaks that he's looking for similar from us, why do we suddenly assume it's BS? Mainly because it doesn't fit in with what we want.

Its not a matter of the info not fitting in with what we want. It's a matter of the info not fitting in with the reality of what Daniel Levy would give Barkley in wages and what Poch would allow to happen with respect to the rest of the squad, as has been mentioned in so many other posts.

 

[DeadleyLedley]

Maybe it's a plant by an agent to get him more money as the deal could be close (or a step closer to quote breezer). You wouldn't put it past an agent doing that to get other clubs to bid who might offer his client higher wages than us.

Sorry, I don't see it. I think it's much more likely Barkley and his agent have an inflated opinion of what he's worth, given that's what they've demonstrated at his current club.

 

[Mister Jez]

You'd probably be better served running your credentials through the site admin, as everyone who has 'info' does, otherwise people have no reason to trust what you say. Someone you trust implicitly means nothing to anyone who doesn't know who you or they are.

As everyone in football knows there's not a chance on earth Spurs would pay anyone £150K a week, you can understand why people would be sceptical that Barkley's agent would be so stupid as to think he could get his client more money than Harry Kane, thereby destabilising the entire Spurs squad.

If he were asking for that, and still hadn't budged after months of talks, clearly we wouldn't be spending all this time negotiating a fee with Everton.

Very eloquently put, you have far more patience than I do.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Two national newspapers, independently of each other, have both written a story about Barkley expecting £150k

The Mirror and who?

 

[DeadleyLedley]

Its not a matter of the info not fitting in with what we want. It's a matter of the info not fitting in with the reality of what Daniel Levy would give Barkley in wages and what Poch would allow to happen with respect to the rest of the squad, as has been mentioned in so many other posts.

What relevance does that have to whether the story is accurate? He and his agent can expect higher wages than we can afford to pay him, even if it doesn't fit in with the reality of what Levy would pay and what Poch would 'allow'.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Perhaps. Like I said, he's asking Everton to pay him something similar, which is arguably even more odd given he's not exactly flavour of the month with the manager.

I could certainly see him trying it, look at the ridiculous contract Walcott ended up with at Arsenal, with Ozil likely to repeat the trick this year.

I'd actually say Everton would be more keen to pay that than us, although the manager situation cools that down.

I still think we'll get the player, but absolutely no way he'll be on more than Kane.

 

[Jamturk]

How do we know it's not about money?

Wages have skipped up this window and so may his demands have too, he could be willing to sit tight and move for free next year.

 

[specspurs]

What relevance does that have to whether the story is accurate? He and his agent can expect higher wages than we can afford to pay him, even if it doesn't fit in with the reality of what Levy would pay and what Poch would 'allow'.

Fair enough, this may well be true. But if it is and he doesn't reduce his demands, he won't be playing for us.

 

[Bobbyh99]

One of the broadsheets is also running this story tomorrow. It's not bullshit I'm afraid

It is bullshit, stop hanging on to these peoples crap!!

 

[DeadleyLedley]

I could certainly see him trying it, look at the ridiculous contract Walcott ended up with at Arsenal, with Ozil likely to repeat the trick this year.

I'd actually say Everton would be more keen to pay that than us, although the manager situation cools that down.

I still think we'll get the player, but absolutely no way he'll be on more than Kane.

For what it's worth, I still think we'll get it.

The story here is 'Footballer makes unrealistic wage demand', I'm still struggling to understand why so many people find that hard to believe.

Yes, it might well be reasonably common knowledge we wouldn't be able to afford that, but some players are badly advised. Or it's part of some (admittedly crap) negotiation technique.

All I'm saying is someone has clearly briefed two (at least) national journalists on this and there's a reason for that. I'd be inclined to believe it's someone on our side who's been asked why things aren't progressing, but who knows.

 

[DeadleyLedley]

Anyway, that's enough from me.

I should have known it wasn't worth the hassle.

 

[worcestersauce]

What relevance does that have to whether the story is accurate? He and his agent can expect higher wages than we can afford to pay him, even if it doesn't fit in with the reality of what Levy would pay and what Poch would 'allow'.

But he can't possibly think he'll get it, I suppose he could be making a public call to say that's his price to any club out there who might take notice.
As it happens I don't doubt that we will be paying that rate to one or more of our players in two or three years time but right now I am convinced we won't pay it to bring in Ross Barkley.

 

[Shadydan]

Zzzz

 

[thebenjamin]

I wasn't aware I had to run my credentials past anyone to pass on a small amount of information. I wouldn't normally ever claim to be ITK, and I'm not really now. In fact, I wasn't going to mention this at all because I didn't want any journalists who use the site to get the story before they did. Then I noticed The Mirror story and people immediately claiming it was bullshit. So I thought it would be useful to know that another national is, independently, running the same story.

Just because papers print a story, it doesn't mean it has any basis in reality. Papers print what they're told to print by managers and agents. Presumably someone has a vested interest in this story being out there.

On the very same day 2 papers printed that Harry Kane's contract talks had broken down and he was most likely to leave and join Man Utd. 3 days later Spurs announced his new 5 year deal.

 

[worcestersauce]

Anyway, that's enough from me.

I should have known it wasn't worth the hassle.

Don't give up on us Deadly'

 

[thebenjamin]

How do we know it's not about money?

Wages have skipped up this window and so may his demands have too, he could be willing to sit tight and move for free next year.

We've been in for Barkley for months. The very first thing they would've discussed would be wages, the last thing that gets negotiated is the transfer fee.

It's perfectly likely that he could ask for £150K, but if he was still demanding that months later, we would have long since moved on.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Anyway, that's enough from me.

I should have known it wasn't worth the hassle.

Cheers for posting your info.

There's a lot of variables with any transfer and the truth will only really be known when this is all said and done whatever way it goes.

 

[DeadleyLedley]

Just because papers print a story, it doesn't mean it has any basis in reality. Papers print what they're told to print by managers and agents. Presumably someone has a vested interest in this story being out there.

On the very same day 2 papers printed that Harry Kane's contract talks had broken down and he was most likely to leave and join Man Utd. 3 days later Spurs announced his new 5 year deal.

Someone has a vested interest in pretty much every story ever printed. That doesn't make this story untrue. And, having worked in papers for ten years, I know exactly how the worst of them work.

What purpose does it serve either side to brief that he's asking for £150k when he's not? I can't see why we would do it, and I don't see how it realistically works as a bargaining chip for him. The most plausible explanation, supported by his actions at his current club, is that he and his advisers think this is how much he is worth.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

We've been in for Barkley for months. The very first thing they would've discussed would be wages, the last thing that gets negotiated is the transfer fee.

It's perfectly likely that he could ask for £150K, but if he was still demanding that months later, we would have long since moved on.

Maybe another Club has entered the race since our initial approach, who knows.

 

[JayB]

@DeadleyLedley thank you for posting your info and I hope if you hear anything more, the response will not dissuade you from sharing it.

It may well be the case that Barkley's agent has adopted that posture as a negotiating tactic in order to get him as close to possible to the top of our wage structure. I do agree with the posters who have said that we would not be pursuing this transfer if we believed that it was a non-negotiable demand, but that doesn't mean that it isn't where Barkley and his agent have started talks. But if Barkley wants to come to Spurs then surely he understands that he will not be on higher wages than Kane and Lloris.