Say No To Stratford. Requiem for a dream.

Discussion in 'The New Stadium' started by ERO, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. WhiteStripe

    WhiteStripe Legen - wait for it - dary

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    Would be better if as it got going, as the (awful) tune quickened, as the strings got louder and the anticipation became too much to bare the screen goes instantly black....

    BOOM (like a boxer entering the ring)

    BOOM (like the return of "The Undertaker" in WWE)

    BOOM.....and in comes the state of the art Stratforsphere....the 60,000 seater football venue to beat all footballing venues....the music quickens, flashes of future glories fly by....VDV lifting the FA Cup....Ledley in the managers seat shouting directions....The Champions league winners badge on our shirt...the Straftford Kop singing on mass...quickening....growing in anticipation....fireworks....BOOM...black screen....

    Tottenham Hotspur Football Club
    We dare
    We do
    Stratford 2012 - The future is all white​
     
  2. Hoowl

    Hoowl Dr wHo(owl) Staff

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    I started systematically replying to the points in that video but didn't get very far before I realised it generally seems to be a lot of scaremongorig and not really worth the effort.
     
  3. ERO

    ERO The artist f.k.a Steffan Freund - Mentalist *****

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    If it's one man that's close it's him, but if it's one man that would never agree he was close it's also him. Our club is way bigger than any one man, so that analogy is flawed.
     
  4. AngerManagement

    AngerManagement Well-Known Member

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    I like the comment about moving to Woolwich to piss off the Arsenal fans....... I guarantee there is not an Gooner in the world who would remotely give a shit about that, just like there is not a gooner out there who cares when Spurs fans tell them their club were from South London before they were born
     
  5. bigturnip

    bigturnip Tottenham till I die, Stratford over my dead body

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    There has been a poll by the FSF, who are about as official as it gets when representing fans, they found that Spurs' fans were 10 to 1 against a move to Stratford.
     
  6. chrissivad

    chrissivad Staff Staff

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    But what was the question to the poll?

    was it just a simple choice of where we wanted the stadium?

    If that was the case then i would have voted Tottenham, but that doesn't mean I would be against a move to Stratford.
     
  7. ERO

    ERO The artist f.k.a Steffan Freund - Mentalist *****

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    And that's just how Levy's going to conduct the survey for Stratford. It'll be 10 to 1 against staying in Tottenham.
     
  8. trevo

    trevo Well-Known Member

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    I've heard that you'll get a small monitor attached to the back of the seat in front of you and that TFL and Stage Coach will be facilitating pitch invasions.:)
     
  9. shelfmonkey

    shelfmonkey It's all codswallop

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    Right on!!!! SPURS BELONG IN N17
     
  10. WhiteStripe

    WhiteStripe Legen - wait for it - dary

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    I love the way the N17 crowd are making the incorrect assumption that moving to the OS site is going to mean shit seats and a shit view. The stadium in all likelihood will be equally impressive as the one proposed under the NDP. So if the seating there is acceptable, why is the OS move any different in terms of view?

    Also comments about "who is going to bother buying a season ticket when they'll get in anyway". What's that all about? By that logic the exact same principle applies with the NDP.

    It seems to me that rather than concentrating on the facts, the real reasons why Spurs should stay in N17, the N17ers have to make up lies and ridiculous assumptions, basially tarnishing their whole campaign.
     
  11. chrissivad

    chrissivad Staff Staff

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    :clap:
     
  12. Midostouch

    Midostouch Active Member

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    I'm maybe being dense but I don't understand what you are saying here. :shrug: Close to what?
    All I was trying to say is that wherever Sir Bill was, he was always Tottenham as far as I was concerned - and I feel the same way about the club.
     
  13. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    Ha anyone from the anti Stratford brigade actually posted their proof/estimate of why they feel Levy's figures don't stack up ?

    Only, at the moment all the figures we've been provided by Levy etc, suggest that we don't really have a choice but to seriously consider relocating.

    So, to be honest, as it stands, I think those organising demonstrations, if they achieved their aim, are possibly doing more harm to the club long term than Levy.

    I started off vigorously opposed to the idea of moving, but given everything we know at the moment - which isn't exactly shitloads (that's financial jargon) but would suggest a difference of circa £200m - I'm pretty much coming round to the idea of moving.

    We absolutely have to move to a bigger stadium, that is blatantly obvious. If it has to be a few miles up the road then reluctantly, so be it.

    It's not as if it will erase our memories. The more I think about it, the more I realise that I don't go to be in Tottenham, I go to watch Spurs play football, and I'm still going to do that if we move a few miles East.
     
  14. dannythomas

    dannythomas Well-Known Member

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    Nothing to do with needing to be near Arsenal. That's irrelevant.

    Man City, Chelsea and to an extent Liverpool are bankrolled by their owners , it has nothing to do with the size of their stadiums. In fact the point has often been made that the first 2 clubs are always vulnerable to their owners losing interest and then they really are in big trouble. Billionaire owner ? No thanks.

    The assumption is being made that suddenly if we move to the East End our wages will double so that we can bring in players at 150,000 UKP per week. Can't see it. It is very convenient for Levy to let it be known that his incompetence in window after window is all down to our low wages and moving to Stratford will fix all that.

    I disagree entirely that we can only compete for CL places if we move. We succeeded last year and are up there again this year and if Levy had done his job and bought only 1 quality striker in the last 2 windows then we would be in better shape. Oh wait, I forgot, we cant meet their wage demands. We can satisfy Modric, Bale and VDV but cannot find a single striker for less than 150k per week.
     
  15. chrissivad

    chrissivad Staff Staff

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    There is some info in there about wage and turn over between ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea, City and our selfs.
    http://andersred.blogspot.com/2011/02/chelsea-200910-results-spin-and-red-ink.html

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  16. SpurSince57

    SpurSince57 Well-Known Member

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    :rofl:

    I thought the 'Spurs Community Geographer of the Year 2011' Award should go to the clown who thought the Lane was in Edmonton. Looks like I was a wee bit premature.
     
  17. bigturnip

    bigturnip Tottenham till I die, Stratford over my dead body

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    The only quote we have from Levy on the difference in costs is "I've never said Stratford will be the cheaper option". The £200m figure is a figure that came from people misrepresenting a quote from the architect, David Keirle. So before you start asking us for proof of why we don't think Levy's figures add up (quite hard seeing as we don't know them) perhaps you should show some evidence for yours or stop reporting an erroneous figure that was never quoted in the first place. I suggest you reread David Keirle's quote, which has been misrepresented by many, and tell us where he says the difference for the two projects is £200m.
     
  18. bigturnip

    bigturnip Tottenham till I die, Stratford over my dead body

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    That would be Jimmy Greaves then. :razz:
     
  19. sloth

    sloth Well-Known Member

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    Not to belabour a point, but WHL is direct north of Whitechapel tube station.

    That makes WHL East of most of those old East End slums from Shoreditch, through Bricklane to Cambridge Heath Road and south down to the river.

    That's also not to say that much of the traditional East End isn't East of WHL, just that much of it is West of us.
     
  20. sloth

    sloth Well-Known Member

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    I think you mis-read what I wrote there :up:

    They don't need a large stadium because they are bankrolled by billionaires. We're not bankrolled by a billionaire so we...

    Stupid argument. Look at the figures and tell me that we should do better than we do considering the relative spend of our four or five rivals (in fact we spend less than Villa on wages).

    And on that ridiculous note I think our conversation has ended.
     

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