Season 2011/12 Predictions

[StartingPrice]

I don't have a problem with blind optimism, just don't get too upset when we sign Frazer Campbell on deadline day :wink:

I agree with your reasoning, I just don't think we've seen enough from the club recently to suggest that they will too! We all knew we needed a striker last window, and the window before that. I think we will get one (and only one) but I think we may be a little underwhelmed.

Once the window closes, I am always absolutely of the firm opinion that that is what we have, and we should back them. And going on the extrapolation that our team is young and improving and gianed a lot of experience last season, I thik we will be better, anyway.

On top of that, I believe Daniel Levy is the still on a learning curve when dealing strictly with football. he underestimated the difficulties of attracting a top striker last year. I don't believe he will do so again. Indeed, I believe he will put his hand on it, and look to resolve the issue this time, for years to come. If I am right, we should be looking to at least one established striker, two younger, hungry and exciting ones, and two very young ones. We have the two very young ones (Cabalabalos, and Coulyballybolly, or whatever - where's David PleatMeister when you need him:shrug, and possibly one of the next tier (if we accept that the Leandro deal is done in essentials). Daniel Levy is a man who knows how to act decisively, and he is a very shrewd negotiator. And he knws, as well as we do, that the striking department let us down last season.
What this does is it takes into account Levy's character and his strong points, rather than just saying we didn't get anyone last Summer and January ergo it will be the same again, and totally ignoring Levy's nature. Therefore my belief on this matter is based on solid reasoning...but still could be proven wrong. It clearly isn't easy to attract a top striker - especially when Citeh buy 87% of them:roll.

 

[specspurs]

A bit pessimistic but I agree with Brett.Spurs...somewhere between 9-12th with our current strike force.

As for the rest
1.United
2.City
3.Chelsea
4.Liverpool
5.Arsenal

Relegation...QPR,Swansea,Wigan (just)

Promotion...so long as its not West Ham don't mind.

FA Cup and League Cup...one of the top five.

Champions League...Real Madrid

Europa League...we'll lose in the quarters.

 

[Mr Pink]

Premier League top 6

1. Man Utd
2. Chelsea
3. Man City
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
6. Liverpool

Relegation

18. Wigan
19. Wolves
20. Norwich

FA Cup

Chelsea


League Cup

Arsenal

Champions League

Barca

Europa League

PSG

Championship Promotion

1. Reading
2. Leicester
3. Forest[/quote]

 

[scat1620]

10th.

 

[Sandro30]

1. Man United
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
6. Villa
7. Liverpoo

18. QPR
19. Wigan
20. Norwich

FA CUP

Man United

CARLING CUP

Man City

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Barcelona

EUROPA LEAGUE

PSG

CHAMPIONSHIP

1. Leicester
2. West Ham
Playoff winner: Reading

 

[jurgen]

It is too early to say without seeing what business we are going to do really. I think from the signings other teams have made (whether they be world stars or options or players settling in since Jan), even if we get a couple of new strikers we'll have to play well and not slip up so much to keep up there near the top. And be a bit more lucky with injuries than we were last season.

I'd still back us for 6th with no new strikers but the points difference to CL qualification will probably get wider...as much as I hate to say it, we have many people predicting the scums demise year on year but even without Fabregas or even both of their wantaways they will still destroy many crapper teams as usual and that will always give them a strong basis for a league campaign.

So 4-6th sitting right on the fence. Without strikers though the lack of ambition will resonate throughout the whole club through the players and the management who clearly desire new faces - and even if we get new strikers at the last minute our starting fixtures could put us way behind in the race before we've even started, always look on the bright side!

 

[RichieS]

Premier League top 6

1. Man Utd
2. Chelsea
3. Man City
4. Arsenal
5. SPURS
6. Liverpool


Relegation

18. Norwich
19. QPR
20. Swansea


FA Cup

Man Utd


League Cup

Man City


Champions League

Barcelona


Europa League

Hard to say until we know who's dropped out of the CL but for now I'll say SPURS.


Championship Promotion

1. Nottm Forest
2. West Ham
3. Leicester

 

[tobi]

Premier League top 6

1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. Spurs
4. Arsenal
5. Chelski
6. Liverpool

Relegation

18. Blackburn
19. Swansea
20. Norwich

FA Cup

Liverpool

Champions League

Real Madrid

Europa League

Spurs

 

[seany]

Premier League top 6

1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. Spurs
4. Arsenal
5. Chelski
6. Liverpool

Relegation

18. Blackburn
19. Swansea
20. Norwich

FA Cup

Liverpool

Champions League

Real Madrid

Europa League

Spurs

Real madrid :rofl:

 

[Rout-Ledge]

It clearly isn't easy to attract a top striker - especially when Citeh buy 87% of them:roll.

Which is why it was a terrible mistake not bringing in Suarez when we had the chance. I think if Levy had learned from his mistakes the wheels would have been well in motion by now, and we'd almost certainly know about deals if they were at an advanced stage.

I'll support the team wholeheartedly no matter who we bring in, but I don't think we've done well this window. We knew what we needed, and the season is now very nearly upon us.

 

[Dare!]

With top class striker:

1. Man United
2. Chelsea
3. Man City
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
6. Liverpool

Without:

1. Man United
2. Chelsea
3. Man City
4. Arsenal
5. Spurs
6. Liverpool

Relegated:

18. Wolves
19. Wigan
20. Norwich

FA Cup:
Chelsea

League Cup:
Liverpool

Champions League:
Barcelona

Europa League:
Spurs

 

[StartingPrice]

Which is why it was a terrible mistake not bringing in Suarez when we had the chance. I think if Levy had learned from his mistakes the wheels would have been well in motion by now, and we'd almost certainly know about deals if they were at an advanced stage.

I'll support the team wholeheartedly no matter who we bring in, but I don't think we've done well this window. We knew what we needed, and the season is now very nearly upon us.

I agree wholeheartedly about Suarez - I never say Levy and/or Redknapp are perfect, 100%ers, who get nothing wrong.
However, what would we know? We know that Daniel Levy likes to keep his cards close to his chest, and ITK has absolutely confirmed that - so, basically what is being said is that if he likes to keep his cards close to his chest, and we don't know what is going on, it must mean everything is a disaster (deliberate hyperbolics :wink. But that is just nonsense. All it means is, er, we don't know what is going on, maybe:shrug:

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I agree wholeheartedly about Suarez - I never say Levy and/or Redknapp are perfect, 100%ers, who get nothing wrong.
However, what would we know? We know that Daniel Levy likes to keep his cards close to his chest, and ITK has absolutely confirmed that - so, basically what is being said is that if he likes to keep his cards close to his chest, and we don't know what is going on, it must mean everything is a disaster (deliberate hyperbolics :wink. But that is just nonsense. All it means is, er, we don't know what is going on, maybe:shrug:

We know we haven't brought anyone in yet. We know we've had many chances to do so in the last couple of years but didn't take a gamble. We know from experience a good start is absolutely crucial to a successful season. We know a settled squad at the start of the season has helped us a great deal in the past.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we'll have a solid start to the season with no new strikers, and then bring in a top class one before the end of the month, and go on to finish in the top 4. But I certainly wouldn't count on it, and I think assuming that's what's going to happen would certainly be classed as heavy optimism

 

[StartingPrice]

We know we haven't brought anyone in yet. We know we've had many chances to do so in the last couple of years but didn't take a gamble. We know from experience a good start is absolutely crucial to a successful season. We know a settled squad at the start of the season has helped us a great deal in the past.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we'll have a solid start to the season with no new strikers, and then bring in a top class one before the end of the month, and go on to finish in the top 4. But I certainly wouldn't count on it, and I think assuming that's what's going to happen would certainly be classed as heavy optimism

We know we haven't brought anyone in yet, so :shrug: that proves we won't before season's kick offEek
A good start is absolutely essential - tell that to United, who have had several bad starts and went on to win the EPL.

You still miss the essential point - we don't really know what is going on because Daniel Levy keeps his cards close to his chest. If I used that as porrf that we are going to sing some great players you would say I was barmy. And yet, those of a pessimistic bent use this lack of knowledge as proof that things will work out for the bad over and over again. I'm just pointing out that that is equally fallacious.

I believe Levy will go all out to fix us for strikers for a few years, this window. Do I have proof of it = no. What is my reasoning = an assessment of his character that he won't stand for repeated failures, and when failures have occurred (as they surely have), he will act decisively.

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

I've thought about various scenarios dependent on who we bring in...

Saddens me to say, but if we don't get our forward line changed by the time the season starts ( whether that is Levy OR Harry's fault ), I can see us starting poorly because of the difficult fixtures. This will lead to the people, who don't like Redknapp, immediately sniffing blood, and becoming extremely vocal/increasing the pressure. I can see him being sacked and us having to rebuild mid season. Sad, not because I am some kind of pro Harry evangelist ( I'm on the fence waiting to see how certain things pan out ), but sad because we will have wasted a massive opportunity ( that we may have already have come close to wasting last summer/Jan ) this summer, that will define the next few years.

If we get 1 to 2 good strikers in, this will lift spirits all the way from management, through players down to us, the fans. We could start solidly with the tough fixtures then really get going and have a closely fought battle with the Gooners for 4th place. At the same time, I see us going through the EL group, then starting to play a stronger team and giving it a real good go at winning a European trophy !! If we get fourth Harry is tempted into staying over England job.

If 5th/6th..., Redknapp departs early next summer, at an opportune time for us to get a new manager and DoF in who can go about tweaking the squad and getting it fully primed and ready for the new season.

Harry goes to jail and we have to re build mid season.

There's so many things up in the air right now, that the potential outcomes are wild and varied !

 

[Rout-Ledge]

We know we haven't brought anyone in yet, so :shrug: that proves we won't before season's kick offEek
A good start is absolutely essential - tell that to United, who have had several bad starts and went on to win the EPL.

We'll know in under two weeks :up:

I'd suggest that United are the exception, rather than the rule.

 

[StartingPrice]

We'll know in under two weeks :up:

I'd suggest that United are the exception, rather than the rule.

:up:
There is always an exception that proves the rule:wink:

 

[Eple]

with new strikers we'll finish 4th
without new strikers we'll finish 7th, we'll be frustrated, harry will label fans as idiots, and next summer will start with a modric saga.

 

[sunnydelight786]

why are so many predicting we are gonna win the Europa League when it's bloody obvious our manager don't give 2 shits about it.....?

 

[StartingPrice]

why are so many predicting we are gonna win the Europa League when it's bloody obvious our manager don't give 2 shits about it.....?

Hope :wink: