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Selling club and transfer policy.

Legend10

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I have read a lot on this site and in the press about us being a selling club and our transfer policy being 1 of money making.

Firstly can I say to all those who say we are a selling club under this board, where is the evidence of that?

Under the current ownership I can only think of 1 significant transfer out that was a player that the team management wanted to keep.

That player was obviously Carrick and was a situation pretty much forcedupon us because of his contractual position, maybe we could have forced the player to stay but that is always a dangerous thing to do and the chairman pushed through a deal where we received a fee which was probably in excess of the players true value. But it is pretty clear that Carrick was offered improved terms and the board along with the management were desperate for him to stay. But as in a ll business's sometimes you have to do a deal that your heart doesn't want to do.

Mido is our 2nd highest transfer out in the clubs history and it's pretty obvious that Jol no longer wanted him, so no problem there.

After that our 3rd and 4th highest transferes out were Gazza and barmby circa 15 years ago.

Hardly behaviour of a selling club is it?

We hear a lot about our supposed transfer policy and how it is affecting us but as far as I can see there has been no pressure on the management for any players to be sold or cashed in on, has there?

yes we have invested in players for the future, but what is the problem with that?

Overall I don't see a squad that is lacking in experience and I certainly don't see one that is lacking in overall ability, yes we need some tinkering at CD (we've been so unlucky with injuries) and I would like to see a genuine midfield enforcer who's also a leader.

But for what some people label a selling club and a transfer bemoaned by so many we are incredibly close, probably just 2-3 players from being the package and I personally don't doubt that the current owners of the club will once again make available the required money to bring in those players.

In Levy I still very much trust!
 

Stoof

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I don't think people think we're a selling club - I think it's more to do with the potential transfer of Berbatov out. It would be 2 big 'outs' over 3 seasons, and hardly confirms our ambition.

I think the slight is more aimed at the seeming unwillingness to buy any player that doesn't have healthy growth on the balance sheet - therefore anyone over 26 - not whether we're a 'selling club' or not. And in this regard it's been shown up this season that aside from Carrick, we've missed anyone with any sort of old, wise, leading head that could only be on the shoulders of someone with games behind their back and years on the clock.
 

paxtonyiddo

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I back Levy i think hes dealt with things very well (remember sugar???)

The whole selling club thing is ridiculous label for us to be given although if berbie goes to man usa??
 

donny1013

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Woolwich Wanderers are far more of a selling club than us as they have sold Anelka/Overmars/Petit/Vieira/Henry in recent years but that has hardly hindered them. Our policy is obviously to sign players with a lot of potential but also the potential to have a higher transfer fee as after all the club is a business. Defensively we have been undone by our sheer inexperience although by now Dawson should be the experience when King is out of the side. So Levy is going to have to bite the bullet and allow Juande to bring in a 29/30ish defender
 

InBlackAndWhite

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With the exception of Anelka, Arsenal only sold the others once they were past their sell by date. That's the difference.
 

Legend10

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I don't think people think we're a selling club - I think it's more to do with the potential transfer of Berbatov out. It would be 2 big 'outs' over 3 seasons, and hardly confirms our ambition.

I think the slight is more aimed at the seeming unwillingness to buy any player that doesn't have healthy growth on the balance sheet - therefore anyone over 26 - not whether we're a 'selling club' or not. And in this regard it's been shown up this season that aside from Carrick, we've missed anyone with any sort of old, wise, leading head that could only be on the shoulders of someone with games behind their back and years on the clock.


Ok let me ask another question...

Apart from West Ham (who are pretty much clueless) in the last window who made any significant investment in anybody over the age of 26?

The only such signing I can think of is Boro signing Woodgate.

We have exactly the same transfer policy as everybody else barring the Spammers. Only we tend to spend more than just about anybody else.
 

Legend10

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With the exception of Anelka, Arsenal only sold the others once they were past their sell by date. That's the difference.

What's the difference?

We've never sold anybody we wanted to keep other than carrick for reasons explained.
 

Stoof

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Ok let me ask another question...

Apart from West Ham (who are pretty much clueless) in the last window who made any significant investment in anybody over the age of 26?

The only such signing I can think of is Boro signing Woodgate.

We have exactly the same transfer policy as everybody else barring the Spammers. Only we tend to spend more than just about anybody else.

Man City? :shrug:
Blackburn? :shrug:
 

chinaman

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Something has to give. Having a much bigger stadium away from WHL so that we can have enough revenue to compete in the level of wages offered by the top 4; or have our best players enticed away.
 

DC_Boy

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May 20, 2005
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We certainly haven't been a selling club under Levy -

maybe last time we were was the days of Gazza & Waddle

naturally we're a trading club - that's different
 

Legend10

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Man City? :shrug:
Blackburn? :shrug:


Who Stoof at City?

Blackburn made an investment in Santa Cruz who is 26

But we wouldn't be afraid to do that, we made recently heavier investments in Chimbonda & Rocha who were older.
 

whendayearendsin1

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I don't think we are a selling club. The two big players who have left the club (assuming berby does go in jan or in the summer) are both players who don't want to play for us. If they don't want to play for Tottenham then get them out ASAP.
 

JKSpurs

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A selling club is one that can't keep players that they would ideally like to stay. Whether it be due to wage demands or standard of the rest of the team.

As such if berba goes we are a selling club.. Carrick there is not much you could of done as he didn't have much time left on his contract and he wanted to go so there is not much you can do apart from take the money. Berba as I understand has a good three of fours years left with another option of two. I don't think you have to start considering selling players until they are in to the final 2 years of there contact and want to leave.
 

kicked

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The problem with Spurs is they only sign players with potential when, at the back and midfield especially, they need to sign a big player with big experience.Someone the youngsters can look up to and learn from. Someone who can bark the orders cos they have that respect. Who though...that is the question!
 

Doctor Who

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Spurs will never be a big club because of Levy wage and transfer policy , Spurs owner ! have miliards pounds , lets invest something in to players but that never gonna happen they want to win money , they don`t care about trofies
 

Allen

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I don't think people think we're a selling club - I think it's more to do with the potential transfer of Berbatov out. It would be 2 big 'outs' over 3 seasons, and hardly confirms our ambition.

I think the slight is more aimed at the seeming unwillingness to buy any player that doesn't have healthy growth on the balance sheet - therefore anyone over 26 - not whether we're a 'selling club' or not. And in this regard it's been shown up this season that aside from Carrick, we've missed anyone with any sort of old, wise, leading head that could only be on the shoulders of someone with games behind their back and years on the clock.

I agree, but I think the underlining point is we aren't one of the leading clubs in the EPL / Europe; whenever we unearth a gem we can do and say all we want to try keeping them but if a player wants to go (and the agent isn’t on our side) there nothing THFC or any other club of similar or lesser stature can do.

(Not directed at you in particular Stoof)
 

DC_Boy

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my interpretation of a selling club is a club that has to sell players that want to stay or are not asking to leave but are forced to go cos of weak finances

also if you forced to sell at low prices cos of weak finances

selling players at a premium price who want to leave isn't a selling club to me - but it's interpretation I guess
 
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