Sherwood has gone!

[Hoddtastic72]

#whydon'tyouuse#insteadofwritinghastagitsmuchquickerandsimpler?

Surprising comment for a sloth to make

 

[Bus-Conductor]

There's no proving himself wrong, but there is being prepared to adapt as he discovers the strengths and weaknesses of his side. Yesterday's performance was 'mainly' to do with not being afraid to experiment, to try players in new positions, to drop his captain and go for the high-line, of not shuffling Vertonghen to the left even though you've two other CBs. It's to do with sticking with a 19 year old kid no one had hardly heard of a month back. It's to do with playing a system and a side which forces his team to be brave and to press. No doubt he learned a lot more from this game as well and we'll see further adjustments in the weeks ahead and maybe some of those will be shit, but for me the 100% most encouraging thing about TS's tenure thus far as he's shown flexibility in his thinking and a willingness to adapt his ideas and philosophy. Long may it continue!

I think that's a fair comment. I've not been impressed with quite a few of his set ups and the application and effort of players within them, but the one thing he has been is very flexible with his structuring/formations. So far we've had 442, 4231, variations within those and now a 433. Tactically encouraging.

His dropping of Dawson and picking Capoue, a player we (I anyway) have assumed he'd taken against somewhat, are also encouraging signs.

 

[beats1]

I think that's a fair comment. I've not been impressed with quite a few of his set ups and the application and effort of players within them, but the one thing he has been is very flexible with his structuring/formations. So far we've had 442, 4231, variations within those and now a 433. Tactically encouraging.

His dropping of Dawson and picking Capoue, a player we (I anyway) have assumed he'd taken against somewhat, are also encouraging signs.

So would you stick with Sherwood if he takes us to fourth or would you want someone else?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

So would you stick with Sherwood if he takes us to fourth or would you want someone else?

For me it's never been as simple as that. If we looked tactically good, played coherently on and off the ball, and took what we saw last night for example and honed it to a consistent performance level, I'd happily give him the job for longer even if we finished 5th or 6th.

I don't care really who our manager/coach is (within reason), I care about what I am seeing week in week out, evidence of an actual methodology or basic working practice at least and whether I can buy into it as a long term solution.

I didn't want AVB sacked, but I don't want the next guy sacked just because he isn't AVB, or isn't a marque name, I want him sacked if we look like a team without any clear direction or a direction I can't buy into. Up until last night I was struggling to see any sign of that, but it is early days in his tenure. I'm not counting my chickens yet either, one swallow maketh not a summer etc.

 

[jolsnogross]

Nice talking point by Louise Taylor in the Guardian:

Sherwood is a real role model for young British coaches

Yes, Tim Sherwood inherited some fabulous players from André Villas-Boas but his willingness to tailor tactics and formations to opponents, while producing some pleasingly subtle between-the-lines football would be the subject of eulogies had he arrived from a more exotic part of the globe. Tottenham's manager is sufficiently relaxed to be able to enjoy a joke – after thrashing Newcastle 4-0 on Tyneside on Wednesday, he pointed out there are two types of manager; the newly sacked and the waiting to be sacked. Some peers could benefit from a similar lack of introspection. Equally importantly his communication skills – notably an ability to talk fluent "human" rather than rely on jargon, cliches and riddles – and sheer common sense have clearly transformed Emmanuel Adebayor from a liability to an asset. Unafraid to hold an opinion and not obsessed with micro-managing his players, Sherwood and Spurs look a good fit. It will be a big shame if the board allow themselves to be seduced by Louis van Gaal this summer

 

[spurs9]

Honestly, it might be an unpopular opinion, but I hope we bring Tim back next year. He's passionate, adaptable and has been getting results. He wants to bring the kids through too which is great.

Another manager change in the summer would be stupid even if we finish 7th (IMO, worst case scenario).

Only if it looks like he is learning from his mistakes and looking like we can be a good side. If we goes back to playing no DMC and persisting with Lennon without his form increasing then no. I don't want to wait another year to see if he will eventually learn. The Newcastle game was impressive and he corrected a few wrongs that we had been crying out for since he took over but it is just one game. It will be interesting to see how he sets up for the Norwich game. I also think the fixtures in March will make or break him as our manager (even if we lose them all, he could learn enough to turn us into a top team).

 

[newbie]

With Sherwood he had to address issues and play a certain way to address some problems 4-4-2 was a stop gap just to get us scoring and to bring back believe. I think 4-4-2 was to keep it simple to keep it simple each week we take a step closer to his ideal formation, which is 4-3-3 but he shows flexibility I think spurs need stability keep Tim no real changes only tweaks in the transfer window. Most of the time everyone harped on about 4-4-2 I think we were playing 4-3-3 with Lennon, Robbie and Ade upfront. Yes he has made mistakes but he is learning adapting and doing a great job I am enjoying Tim time.

 

[Ironskullll]

Trouble with Lenin is he's too easy to Marx, he should be making the run on the Engel, but instead he just stands there flapping his arms. Basically he needs to quit stalin, and just get on with it!!





Right, I'll get my (Great) coat...

You prefer him on the left wing then?

 

[Eric_s]

City a side i have been really impressed with Tim, be intresting to see what he does about the Europa League.

Apparently you did not watch our games against palace, Swansea, hull and everton then. We were lucky in those games.

 

[Eric_s]

With Sherwood he had to address issues and play a certain way to address some problems 4-4-2 was a stop gap just to get us scoring and to bring back believe. I think 4-4-2 was to keep it simple to keep it simple each week we take a step closer to his ideal formation, which is 4-3-3 but he shows flexibility I think spurs need stability keep Tim no real changes only tweaks in the transfer window. Most of the time everyone harped on about 4-4-2 I think we were playing 4-3-3 with Lennon, Robbie and Ade upfront. Yes he has made mistakes but he is learning adapting and doing a great job I am enjoying Tim time.

So you think managers like ferguson, mourinhno and guardiola etc are successful because they keep things simple? Run about and attack?
Managing a football team, training, organizing, the team and preparing the team to face the next opponent is not a simple job.

 

[knilly]

For me TS is the man for the job. IMOnions we need stability as we are changing coaches far too regularly.

He isnt the foreign name and accent that some people crave, but he is talking sense, getting results and has a depth of knowledge of the club and its players from the ground up, and working relationship with Chris Ramsey & Sir Les Ferdinand.

In any other industry he would be the man for the job. This is football though where logic barely exists.

How would people feel about losing the coaching trio (and Freund) that has brought us so much youth success just to get LVG in through the door. Long term employees excelling at their jobs for a coach after a last payday.

 

[dudu]

Apparently you did not watch our games against palace, Swansea, hull and everton then. We were lucky in those games.

no such thing as luck mate!

 

[jezz]

no such thing as luck mate!

Hmmm and if Soldado had taken CPs penalty?
We were lucky, but every team needs a little luck, even the great ones.
If Tim keeps going with Lennon its good bye.
You live and die by your mistakes.

 

[tototoner]

If his surname was Sherinho and he wore a suit I think he would be more popular, sad but true

Some preformed conceptions are hard to shake

 

[eddiebailey]

One of Sherwood's best points is that he is more than happy with a squad of players that he did not himself assemble. In his opinion we have sufficient quality to be getting on with; in fact he does not want anyone else in until he has finished assessing the players he has. Compare this with the likes of Ramos and AVB, complaining they could not do their job because the board did not spunk gazillions to get the superstars they demanded.

 

[jj87]

One of Sherwood's best points is that he is more than happy with a squad of players that he did not himself assemble. In his opinion we have sufficient quality to be getting on with; in fact he does not want anyone else in until he has finished assessing the players he has. Compare this with the likes of Ramos and AVB, complaining they could not do their job because the board did not spunk gazillions to get the superstars they demanded.

To be fair to Ramos, he only complained in public long after being fired, and even then I'm not sure AVB has at all? Everything else is just rumour and speculation. In case you've forgotten, we have spunked gazillions pretty recently....

Big fan of Tim though, he's getting the results and seems to be learning from his mistakes rapidly. Long may it continue.

 

[eddiebailey]

If Tim keeps going with Lennon its good bye.

Lennon has been a fixture in the team for nigh on a decade, under five managers. AVB would rush him straight back after injury. Ramos in his recent interview singled Lennon out as our danger man.

Most likely Aaron's going to be with us another decade yet, regardless of who is manager. Live with it.

Fans might not always appreciate him, but if you are an opposing defender his is the first name you look for on the team sheet. For all his deficiencies his acceleration is terrifying.

 

[Nocando]

Hmmm and if Soldado had taken CPs penalty?
We were lucky, but every team needs a little luck, even the great ones.
If Tim keeps going with Lennon its good bye.
You live and die by your mistakes.

He would have received a yellow. Whats your point.

 

[allatsea]

One of Sherwood's best points is that he is more than happy with a squad of players that he did not himself assemble. In his opinion we have sufficient quality to be getting on with; in fact he does not want anyone else in until he has finished assessing the players he has. Compare this with the likes of Ramos and AVB, complaining they could not do their job because the board did not spunk gazillions to get the superstars they demanded.

Or Harry who always wanted two or three more no matter how many he already had in his squad.

 

[dondo]

Hmm if Soldado had taken CPs penalty?
We were lucky, but every team needs a little luck, even the great ones.
If Tim keeps going with Lennon its good bye.
You live and die by your mistakes.

I agree that lennon should be replaced the side but Its hardley been going badly with him playing.
We do seem to play better when lennon in the team, even if he plays poorly himself, he offers us a good balance and nautral width. I hope townsend gets a run in the team now and can provide that balance and put in some better performances