Kubo
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So, you have to be a nice boy until you win a couple of titles, is that it?
Sherwood has gone!
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Breezer
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Don't talk like Billy "Big" Bollocks when you've been in the job for 2 mins and have ZERO managerial experience!
Blackrat1299
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Probably found it the easiest way to get rid of the most divisive, antagonistic 1 of the lot
TEESSIDE1
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A tough act to follow? A clown could have done what he's achieved .... winning games after our season had already collapsed and alienating our expensive signings and making them feel unwanted.
I wish he would hurry up and leave.
tototoner
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This is from Mourinho today - BBC
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has questioned midfielder Eden Hazard's commitment during matches.
Mourinho suggested that the Belgian should have tracked Juanfran in the build-up to Adrian Lopez's equaliser in the 3-1 defeat by Atletico Madrid.
Hazard, 23, has claimed that the Blues are only set up to counter-attack.
"When the comments come from a player like Eden it's normal because he's not the kind of player to sacrifice himself for the team," said Mourinho.
"He's not mentally ready to look to his left-back and leave his life for him.
"Normally you get these kind of comments from players like him, from players that can't resolve a problem like we had with the first goal.
"If you see Atletico's first goal, you completely understand where the mistake was and why we conceded that goal."
In February, Hazard, recently named Professional Footballers' Association Young Player of the Year,told BBC Sport that Mourinho has turned him into a "team player".
But the Chelsea manager believes Hazard can still make more progress.
He added: "I'm not happy. I've tried to improve him all season."
So is Mourinho a moron also ?
JUSTINSIGNAL
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Yep.
Mourinho is talking from the viewpoint of a manager who has won multiple trophies. That's why the players will listen to him and still respect him.
Sherwood has won nothing as a manager.
So the crux of this is we will never get a British manager who will get respect from our highly paid world class stars as that person will not have won trophies. So we will always appoint a foreign manager who is currently the hottest name to have. Well until British managers go abroad to win trophies first. Where's Steve Mclaren's phone number?
tototoner
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nice back tracking
Jamturk
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Respect is earned not given
Kubo
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By that logic 75% or so of the Premier League managers aren't allowed to voice any criticism.
Let's say that we appoint Poch in the summer. Will he be allowed to utter harsh words after one of our inevitable defensive fuck ups?
E17yid
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Why does Freund get no mention?
"What am I going to do? I'm not going to roll up and die, I'm just going to get on with my job, which is to try and prepare my team to win football matches and whatever will be will be," he said. "I've just got to carry on with my business, show my personal pride and professionalism and make sure that those lads are prepared to win for the team and for the fans and for this great club.
"It's not only me, I've got two coaches with me, Les Ferdinand and Chris Ramsey, who have given a lot of time to this club over the years. I think possibly 30 years between us. It's a lot of time, a lot of effort and the club's been good to us in that time as well. What will happen at the end of the season, who knows?
"What am I going to do? I'm not going to roll up and die, I'm just going to get on with my job, which is to try and prepare my team to win football matches and whatever will be will be," he said. "I've just got to carry on with my business, show my personal pride and professionalism and make sure that those lads are prepared to win for the team and for the fans and for this great club.
"It's not only me, I've got two coaches with me, Les Ferdinand and Chris Ramsey, who have given a lot of time to this club over the years. I think possibly 30 years between us. It's a lot of time, a lot of effort and the club's been good to us in that time as well. What will happen at the end of the season, who knows?
Spurger King
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Footballers seem like a precious, egotistical bunch. They need a manager that they can respect - especially at a club like ours where players earn good wages and get to train in top of the range facilities, without actually delivering any sort of success. Like a lot of our fans, I imagine that many of our players think they are much better than they actually are.
There are many ways a manager can command respect, and past success is just one of them. Someone like Poch might come in and impress them with his man management skills, and knowledge of the game. Harry seemed to command a lot of respect from our players because of his experience and general attitude.
Personally I feel that it would be a mistake for a manager to come in and start mouthing off about the squad if he doesn't have the respect in place already. There's a clear difference between Mourinho laying into his players, and Sherwood - a novice - doing the same.
Spurs Lodge Kittens
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the only thing i can think of is because Freund was already part of the 1st team set up?!?! So he's not going to be demoted like Les, Chris and Tim??
absolute bobbins
Am Yisrael Chai
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People seem to forget that these days (says the 29 year old)
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B0NZ0
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In the context of the discussion, Feund has been there five minutes. The point he was trying to make is the 3 of them have been with spurs a long time, giving over 30 years service etc. Doesn't mean he couldn't have made a separate comment.
Whilst I'm not biased against TS, I'm not all that enamoured with FDB. My gut feeling is TS has had to deal with a lot of issues, not least the constant speculation about his tenure for which I really feel for him. Hearing journo's sympathising with him at every press conference is embarrassing for the club.
He's made some mistakes and possibly regrets one or two outbursts, but it happens to show he is human and that he is passionate about his team. I can also forgive him the drubbings we've had, this is someone with Zero experience at this level and given we had a few under AVB, probably not that surprising.
I'd give TS another year, let him have a full pre-season, change a couple of personnel and get the fans behind the team. His results in the Prem are impressive taking into account the events going on around the team so can't quite fathom the hatred towards him. FDB is an unknown quantity and we've had some shocking unknown quantities in the past, sometimes the devil you know is a better option.
JUSTINSIGNAL
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I would expect Poch to stay professional and keep things in house like most managers.
Top managers like Mourinho are in a unique position because of what they have done in the game. Players know it isbest to stay on side with the manager as there is a good chance he will win trophies for them.
Most other managers are yet to earn that kind of respect.
This is Sherwood's first job so he will be a long way from earning anywhere near Moutinhos level of respect.
I can't even believe the comparison is being made!!
Kubo
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I would agree that harsh words have more weight to them coming from someone like Mourinho. Then again, I wonder what he was like before starting winning all those throphies with Porto. I have a hunch he was pretty straightforward already back then. Either way, I'm not really convinced by the notion that a manager must thread around on his tippy toes until he's won a title or two.
Also, what do we know of the relationship between Sherwood and our current squad? Does he have their respect? Maybe they all view him as a laughing stock, but the only "evidence" so far is a couple of tweets and a guy smiling in an post-match interview after a win.
Our points gathered, not least from losing positions, indicates that quite a few of the lot don't mind playing under him. Or maybe they're just professional enough to don't care about that stuff, could also be the cause.
Also, what do we know of the relationship between Sherwood and our current squad? Does he have their respect? Maybe they all view him as a laughing stock, but the only "evidence" so far is a couple of tweets and a guy smiling in an post-match interview after a win.
Our points gathered, not least from losing positions, indicates that quite a few of the lot don't mind playing under him. Or maybe they're just professional enough to don't care about that stuff, could also be the cause.
Only the die hard Sherwood fans are making the comparison no one else is.
