Should Premier League Saturday 3pm matches should be shown live on TV

[spursfan77]

Yes

I much prefer going to watch spurs at whl and find it much more relaxing than watching us on to at home. So I'd still go to games. Mind you we never play Saturdays so it's a moot point really.

 

[SpursManChris]

Games on a Saturday... I think.

few games on a Saturday? There's only usually 7 or 8.

 

[SpursManChris]

More live games domestically means you won't have Sky and BT spending billions in order to secure the premium games.

How is that? How would this change the value that the Premier League puts on their product? In my mind it should be even more expensive with more matches.

 

[Hoops]

No.

 

[nailsy]

few games on a Saturday? There's only usually 7 or 8.

3pm Saturday.... Like the thread title. There's always a match at midday on Saturday, usually a game at half five, and somewhere between two and four games on a Sunday. So not many games left at 3pm on a Saturday.

 

[nailsy]

How is that? How would this change the value that the Premier League puts on their product? In my mind it should be even more expensive with more matches.

If there are more matches then viewers will spread out among the games which will probably lead to a reduction in advertising revenue.

 

[SpursManChris]

If there are more matches then viewers will spread out among the games which will probably lead to a reduction in advertising revenue.

How would viewers spread out lead to a possible reduction in ad revenue? And how would this mean the Premier League will be less expensive for the broadcasters?

 

[SpursManChris]

3pm Saturday.... Like the thread title. There's always a match at midday on Saturday, usually a game at half five, and somewhere between two and four games on a Sunday. So not many games left at 3pm on a Saturday.

But @Phill Barrs said "10 years ago, but there are so few now." That doesn't make sense, as the Saturday early and late kickoffs have been going for as long as the PL haven't they. I'm assuming they started at least when the PL started as the blackout rule has been going since the 60's. Unless the PL started with Sunday only broadcasts.

 

[nailsy]

How would viewers spread out lead to a possible reduction in ad revenue? And how would this mean the Premier League will be less expensive for the broadcasters?

Well advertisers will pay a lot less for a game that's watched by 1M than a game watched by 3M. It's a bit like comparing the advertising income from ITV and a freeview Channel like Dave. That's probably not even what they were talking about though as Virgin were talking about the Cost Per Game price. Obviously if you pay one price for the licence, but all all of a sudden you can show more games then the cost per game goes down.

But @Phill Barrs said "10 years ago, but there are so few now." That doesn't make sense, as the Saturday early and late kickoffs have been going for as long as the PL haven't they. I'm assuming they started at least when the PL started as the blackout rule has been going since the 60's. Unless the PL started with Sunday only broadcasts.

As far as I can remember when the Premier league first started you didn't have the midday Saturday fixtures. You had Monday night football and a Sunday match. From next season there's going to be games moved to a Friday night as well.

 

[SpursManChris]

Well advertisers will pay a lot less for a game that's watched by 1M than a game watched by 3M. It's a bit like comparing the advertising income from ITV and a freeview Channel like Dave. That's probably not even what they were talking about though as Virgin were talking about the Cost Per Game price. Obviously if you pay one price for the licence, but all all of a sudden you can show more games then the cost per game goes down.

In my mind, it is exactly what it is currently valued at, whatever billion figure it is, PLUS all the extra games on top. So yes, advertisers will pay alot less for a game that's watched by 1M, but they'll also be getting the games watched by 3M, just like they do currently. No?

As far as I can remember when the Premier league first started you didn't have the midday Saturday fixtures. You had Monday night football and a Sunday match. From next season there's going to be games moved to a Friday night as well.

Well surely longer than 10 years. English football was revolutionalised with the formation of the PL and it all centered around a big new TV deal with Sky; Given this, I'd find it hard to believe if it all culminated in a pathetic 2 games a round on TV.

 

[nailsy]

Just four 3pm kick offs in the premier league today.

 

[Shadydan]

I don't see the point and I don't see why anyone cares really, you can stream any game you want nowadays so it's not as if we don't have an alternative.

 

[nailsy]

I don't see the point and I don't see why anyone cares really, you can stream any game you want nowadays so it's not as if we don't have an alternative.

Streaming is unreliable though and there's a large portion of the population who won't watch a streamed match. And if matches are available via streams why can't they make them officially available?

 

[shelfboy68]

Streaming is unreliable though and there's a large portion of the population who won't watch a streamed match. And if matches are available via streams why can't they make them officially available?

Maybe clubs should stream games and charge say a nominal annual fee and then the streams would be Top quality like they are on NBC sports 720,1080.
It would generate more money for them plus people who cant get to the game dont miss out.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

The "ideal" solution would be a shock to the system - until you got used to it.

Follow the American system for American football. All lower league games take place on Saturday. And all premier league games take place on Sunday and Monday Night.

Have a couple of games in an early slot - say 12:30, then the majority of games at 3:00, followed by a marquee matchup Sunday night, and a TV game Monday night.

This way anyone who wants to attend a lower league game is not distracted by a PL game in tv.

 

[nailsy]

The "ideal" solution would be a shock to the system - until you got used to it.

Follow the American system for American football. All lower league games take place on Saturday. And all premier league games take place on Sunday and Monday Night.

Have a couple of games in an early slot - say 12:30, then the majority of games at 3:00, followed by a marquee matchup Sunday night, and a TV game Monday night.

This way anyone who wants to attend a lower league game is not distracted by a PL game in tv.

Interesting - I suggested something similar earlier in the thread. I didn't realise that they did that for American Football already.

 

[dondo]

I would be very interested in a spurs TV season ticket where you could watch all spurs/whoever you support games all season for a one of fee or monthly subcription and have the magority of games at. 3 on Saturday with maybe one free to air match on a Sunday

 

[Bobbins]

Well, I'm obviously going against the grain in this thread, but I think the opposite should be true.

There's far too much football on tv these days already and far too many weird and wonderful kick-off times.

I'm a big, big fan of the traditional 3pm. I don't massively mind there being an early and late Saturday game, when it's for policing reasons etc, but I'd prefer more Saturday 3pm games and only one game on a Sunday afternoon and one on a Monday night.

Obviously most people don't agree and there are midweek cup and European games which mean more games have to be played on Sundays, but in my ideal world this reverting back to 3pm Saturdays would also coincide with a massively-reduced number of European games from a Champion's League straight knockout competition which only includes title winners and runners-up, and a Europa Cup which only includes the teams which finish 3rd and 4th and win the FA Cup.

There's too much football in general, too much on tv, and I just don't want to see even more of it and even more random match times.

I do agree that it's absurd that a guy living in America/Australia/whatever can easily watch every Spurs game on tv for a frankly nominal fee, and none of us can get more than the odd Sky/BT game and some shit highlights - that's ridiculous. But then I would prefer clubs to run their own tv channels with viewer season tickets - because I'm only interested in Spurs to be honest, and would gladly pay a fee for that every season.

I really don't give much of a fuck about the Premier League apart from Spurs and enjoying it when the big clubs lose - otherwise I'm more interested in the Football League. There are millions of fans out there who enjoy their Saturday afternoon football outing, especially to their local club, and who couldn't care less about the Premier League.

I also don't want to see the Premier League be even further divorced from the rest of the football league by moving to not playing Saturdays - in fact I absolutely hate that idea. Fuck that.

Saturday afternoons are about your trip to football and seeing other people with shirts on when you're travelling or before or after the game. It's about Final Score and Sky Sports Centre flicking round the grounds with goals flying in all over the country up and down the leagues and the excitement that brings. It's about going to the reporter at Old Trafford because West Brom have just equalised before suddenly cutting off and heading to Brighton because a huge goal has just been scored in the Championship. It's about being in the car and listening to 5Live or Talksport and seeing the blokes in the car next to you cheering because they've just heard their team has scored. It's about getting dragged to the shopping centre by the wife and joining the silent cult of blokes standing around following the scores on their phones, communicating with fellas they've never met and will never meet again with a nod and a "Chelsea 1 nil down are they?".

It makes you feel like you're part of this huge national tradition of excitement and emotion, where you get two hours every week of pure, unadulterated FOOTBALL in all its forms. I would hate to lose that. I have foreign friends who've come and experienced it and gone home jealous because they have nothing like it in their own countries or in their own sports (America).

I'm aware that most will disagree with me but I just happen to much prefer the old football formats of years ago to todays constant force-feeding of endless games on every day and all day. The only time I enjoy that is during the Christmas and New Year period when the football comes thick and fast and I only enjoy it for those couple of weeks because that's the traditional English football programme (one day someone mug will get their way and they'll introduce a winter break, mainly in the interests of the national team, who I give even less of a flying fuck about than anything else).

 

[worcestersauce]

No.

 

[BuryMeInEngland]

The "ideal" solution would be a shock to the system - until you got used to it.

Follow the American system for American football. All lower league games take place on Saturday. And all premier league games take place on Sunday and Monday Night.

Have a couple of games in an early slot - say 12:30, then the majority of games at 3:00, followed by a marquee matchup Sunday night, and a TV game Monday night.

This way anyone who wants to attend a lower league game is not distracted by a PL game in tv.

I think that's why college football games are always played on Saturdays.

But college games are not "lower league". The TV and live audiences for those games are HUGE with hundreds of millions of dollars spent on TV advertising.