Should we really buy anymore English players?

[stemark44]

I have to say that some of the transfer fee's for young English players recently has been quite shocking.

Liverpool have spent £55m on Henderson and Carroll which is more than double what they are actually worth.

If any of you have watched recent England International games,it's plain to see that they are useless and totally over-rated.

It's obvious that the biggest factor that makes the Premiership worth watching,is the foreign players that have come into the league,they have brought the quality and technique that the majority of English players don't have.
I sincerely hope that we search throughout the world for bright,new talent and have the gut's to take a chance on a few of the best one's.

 

[VegasII]

Not at the present shitty prices.

 

[brett.spurs]

Young relatively unknowns yeah. Would stay clear of most established English players though.

 

[RobinLeonard]

It's madness. But at the same I would be pretty annoyed if Liverpool and Man United could go to clubs like Sunderland and buy all their best young players for spare change.

 

[DoublePivot]

As always, its a case by case basis. If a good deal comes through then yes. But they are harder to find these days. But Cahill was only 5 million when he went to Bolton.

 

[dontcallme]

Lots of foreign players are equally over-rated and overpriced. A lot depends on whether the club are interested in selling and the length of contract.

Utd and Liverpool decided they wanted Jones and Henderson who Blackburn and Sunderland clearly wanted to keep so the only way to buy was to put in a ridiculous offer.

If we target someone like Falcao then we can wait until Porto are willing to sell or put in a ridiculous offer that they can't turn down, same for English players.

English players very rarely go abroad so while £20m for Henderson might seem ridiculous at least Liverpool can be confident of having a good servant for the rest of his career unlike Mascherano who was always touting for a move.

 

[beats1]

The english players as a group at the club have let us down and as soon as a world cup comes along, they are never injured and seem to playing out of their skin, :think:,

 

[alfiespurs]

English players are really hyped up ( bit like the old DOT.CON era ...), really fail to live up to expectations ....

 

[OmarsComing]

£55million!

12 months ago you could have bought both for £15million maximum. Absolutely ridiculous!

 

[dontcallme]

£55million!

12 months ago you could have bought both for £15million maximum. Absolutely ridiculous!

Exactly, it's more about paying inflated prices when a player is on a high rather than simply overpaying because they're English.

 

[alfiespurs]

English players very rarely go abroad so while £20m for Henderson might seem ridiculous at least Liverpool can be confident of having a good servant for the rest of his career unlike Mascherano who was always touting for a move.[/quote]

Great point ... INTEGRITY !!!! Look at ROONEY ... :grin::grin:

 

[dontcallme]

English players very rarely go abroad so while £20m for Henderson might seem ridiculous at least Liverpool can be confident of having a good servant for the rest of his career unlike Mascherano who was always touting for a move.

Great point ... INTEGRITY !!!! Look at ROONEY ... :grin::grin:[/quote]

:grin: integrity wasn't my point.

Ronaldo did well for Utd but always wanted to play in Spain, same for many South American and Portuguese players.

Successful teams are almost always built on a strong set of players who are at the club for a long time. Chelsea bought a lot of talented foreigners but always relied heavily on Terry and Lampard and half Utd's squad are British and there for the long run.

 

[Strikeb4ck]

Sunderland should have a lot of money to spend over summer, huh?
Probably around 30-35M with Bent and Henderson leaving.

 

[mike_l]

As always, its a case by case basis. If a good deal comes through then yes. But they are harder to find these days. But Cahill was only 5 million when he went to Bolton.

Thing is he was a back-up player at Villa at that time, I don't see us taking chances like that on anyone.

 

[OmarsComing]

Sunderland should have a lot of money to spend over summer, huh?
Probably around 30-35M with Bent and Henderson leaving.

Hopefully they'll offer £40million for Hutton, Jenas, Keane and Krancjar!

 

[VegasII]

Steady on, anyone with a british passport is absolutely premium this summer. Has to be 40 million quid for Hutton Alone.

Not really.

 

[leffe186]

I'm amazed that nobody in this thread has mentioned the homegrown rule though.

If I'm right, we currently have Bale, Bentley, Hudd, Lennon, Jenas, Keane (?), Crouch, Naughton, Defoe, Dawson, Rose, King, Woodgate and Alnwick as homegrowns over 21. We have 18 non-homegrowns. That makes 32. If we name a squad of 25, we therefore need to shed seven (see what I did there), or more if we buy anyone. I'd expect Naughton, Alnwick, Bentley, Keane, Woodgate, Khumalo, Pletikosa, Kranjcar to leave or go out on loan (as the bare minimum). That would leave us with 9 homegrown and 15 non-homegrown. There's not a huge amount of room to manouevre, so it's really not surprising that clubs are looking to buy English.

At the end of the season before last, Liverpool were relying on untried kids to make up the homegrown numbers. They've had to buy English.

 

[mattdefoe]

overpriced,overated.

In terms of British We have paid over the odds for

hutton
bentley
bent
defoe

but we also got bargains such as

huddlestone
lennon
dawson
bale

swings and roundabouts, Also i dont know if jenas was a bargain or not lol

 

[Danny1]

Good point raised regarding the home grown quote. To be fair its not just English players that are expensive, its players from the Premiership full stop. If you look at the spanish league, players go from club to club for very little in comparison to England, for example David Villa for £34m to Andy Carroll at £35m.

But its not just the English players, take N'Zogbia for example, he would probably cost in the region of £15m whereas you could pick up a player from Spain, France etc of similar ability for £7-10m. With the amount of revenue EPL clubs get from TV & Sponsorship deals in means that naturally the cost of players will increase.

European leagues are just starting to notice this and are increasing the price of their players once a EPL club comes calling. Abel Hernandez would have probably been allowed to leave for circa £10m had it been a spanish club interested but because it was a cash rich english team the price will be near to £16-17m.

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

We could always buy back players who trained at the club at as youngster. If Barca get Fabregas to fulfill their quota (not that they need to) surely we could bring back Alton Thelwell?