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Six English clubs fined millions and handed 30-point deduction ultimatum for Super League

TheBlueRooster

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I see peoples mouth piece Gary Neville has called it an embarrassment. I see to like him but he just gets on my nerves now.

FA are saying that they are not fines. I don't think that they could fine them for something that basically was an idea that didn't come to fruition.
 

Bulletspur

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Agree with your post, I think people need to stop focusing solely on racism and more about hatred, the abuse Beckham and lampard got was horrific, I think there needs to be focus on on not being a @@@@! There shouldn’t be any abuse fullstop!

How can you compare the boos and the likes that Beckham and Lampard got, to what a black footballer has to put up with from the time he wakes up until the time he goes to bed the systemic racism that he has to endure both on and off the pitch?
 

newbie

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How can you compare the boos and the likes that Beckham and Lampard got, to what a black footballer has to put up with from the time he wakes up until the time he goes to bed the systemic racism that he has to endure both on and off the pitch?

Racism is un acceptable but death threats are ok?

So abuse is fine as long as it’s not racist?

Racism should not be allowed I completely agree. Abuse needs to stop!
 
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sebo_sek

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Why can't they fine the racist clubs more then?
How come clubs whose fans regularly racially abuse players get given a measly 20k fine? Is that because it doesn't threaten the financial stability of the powers that be?!
Because at the end of the day racisim is just (from the perspective of UEFA) a social issue, whereas this was about BILLIONS OF POUNDS.
UEFA need to deter clubs from such initiatives as the governing body's very survival depends on it. Compared to that racisim is just an inconvenience (again, according to UEFA).
 

sebo_sek

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How can you compare the boos and the likes that Beckham and Lampard got, to what a black footballer has to put up with from the time he wakes up until the time he goes to bed the systemic racism that he has to endure both on and off the pitch?

The bit in bold is just bollocks.

The underlined bit is simply untrue. If it's systemic, how can some black footballers earn more than white ones? How do they get called up for national duty in European teams? How do they get endorsements at white owned and white run companies/products? How can people get banned for racisim on social platforms and so on?
Is racisim promoted by governments or NGO's?
Is it defended by th above?
Is it excused?

Racism exists and is abhorrent and works in EVERY direction, inlcuding black on white (the latest case of the mayor of Chicagio refusing to talk to WHITE journalists only because of their race).
Systemic racism doesn't, despite the huge campaign trying to prove it.
 
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Tony-Bish

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Agree with your post, I think people need to stop focusing solely on racism and more about hatred, the abuse Beckham and lampard got was horrific, I think there needs to be focus on on not being a @@@@! There shouldn’t be any abuse fullstop!

I'd go a step further and say we need to stop focusing on people being @@@@'s and focus on love, being kind etc. This also goes extends to our neighbours. Instead of hating them, abusing them etc, we should see them as our brothers. Of course we want to finish above them, we want them to push us to be our best. Competition isn't about beating other's, it's about bringing out the best in yourself. It's there to bring and inspire greatness, not a chance to yell abuse. Why do we accept abuse towards our neighbours, yes we should want to win, but not to beat down our rivals. this mentality needs to stop, it's where racism and general C@@@ishness stems from.
 

Bulletspur

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The bit in bold is just bollocks.

The underlined bit is simply untrue. If it's systemic, how can some black footballers earn more than white ones? How do they get called up for national duty in European teams? How do they get endorsements at white owned and white run companies/products? How can people get banned for racisim on social platforms and so on?
Is racisim promoted by governments or NGO's?
Is it defended by th above?
Is it excused?

Racism exists and is abhorrent and works in EVERY direction, inlcuding black on white (the latest case of the mayor of Chicagio refusing to talk to WHITE journalists only because of their race).
Systemic racism doesn't, despite the huge campaign trying to prove it.
All you have demonstrated is how simple and juvenile your thought process is with regards to race. Based on your arguments that have been highlighted people like you have not got a clue, and that is a big part of the racial problems we have.
 
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Shadydan

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All you have demonstrated is how simple and juvenile your thought process is with regards to race. Based on your arguments that have been highlighted people like you have not got a clue, and that is a big part of the racial problems we have.

Stick him on ignore, he has previous - disgusting poster if you want my opinion.
 
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