Souleymane Coulibaly
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worcestersauce
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I often think that big youngsters have the advantage over smaller players but as they all grow up that difference diminishes so you can't always be sure they'll actually fulfill their potential, I know that sounds obvious but what I mean is that Rooney was good at 17 simply because he was that good same for Michael Owen, they didn't gain anything from their size, they couldn't physically batter opponents.
I saw Lukaku on the box the other day and he is huge, effectively a full grown man so his size is a large part of his game the improvement in him may not be what is expected, I suspect that this is not the case with our boy but we should not put too much pressure on him and expect too much too soon.
I saw Lukaku on the box the other day and he is huge, effectively a full grown man so his size is a large part of his game the improvement in him may not be what is expected, I suspect that this is not the case with our boy but we should not put too much pressure on him and expect too much too soon.
AngerManagement
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Maybe, but Lukaku has been playing and scoring in first team football for a while now in Belgium and is also a full blown international.
Not only that he has already played and showed himself ready for first team football at Chelsea.
Coulibaly on the other hand has only been playing youth and reserve level football and as of yet we still have no idea what he will be worth in 3 or 5 years time.
Bostock looked great at youth level, even impressed in the first team for Palace but as of yet he has not gone on to become the player many predicted he would and if anything is value has probably gone down since the hype has died.
Even Raisak looked pretty impressive at reserve level if I recall, that was by no means an indication of how he would perform in our first team.
I hope that this kid will go on to be a 20m pound player, of course we all do.... but right now none of us can say that he will and none of us can say that he was a better buy than Lukaku who for all we know will become the new Drogba and be worth £50m in 3 seasons time.
C0YS
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All the players you are comparing with coulibay where well developed for those teams. Coulibay is smaller then 5'8, he is 16 and has scored in just about every game he has played in the reserve and youth team. It is very rare for someone that age to not only be regularly playing at that level at his age, but to regularly do well? I reckon he should break into the first team at 18-ish. He could still fail and not make it. But better examples are Taarabt and Dixon, both who had the talent but attitude and injuries got in the way.
worcestersauce
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I got it wrong then as I thought he was much bigger than that.
Remember Jimmy Greaves and Peter Osgood ? They were blooded at 16 and never looked back. To more recent times, there's the example of Wayne Rooney. So if Soule continues his excellent form in the juniors, he should be given a chance in the Europa and the League Cup games when we are comfortably in front or when results don't matter much to see how he performs.
Ron Burgundy
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Excellent form? He wasn't THAT great against a rubbish Inter side. There were better players according to several independent reports.
He's got time on his side, he's not ready yet though. Kane is ahead of him in reality
Bobbins
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Excellent form because he's already scored plenty of goals for the youth teams in the various matches they've played recently. He hasn't just scored those two last week to get people excited, he's been scoring regularly since he got here.
One thing to remember as well is that although he's only 5'7" at the moment, he has got a good 5 years of growing to do and so will end up taller - he may get to merely 'normal' size of 5'10"-ish but he could be in line for a growth spurt too with any luck and get to a good size. The chances of that are increased with the top-notch fitness and diet regime he'll now be on at Spurs.
One thing to remember as well is that although he's only 5'7" at the moment, he has got a good 5 years of growing to do and so will end up taller - he may get to merely 'normal' size of 5'10"-ish but he could be in line for a growth spurt too with any luck and get to a good size. The chances of that are increased with the top-notch fitness and diet regime he'll now be on at Spurs.
A bit optimistic but lets hope so.
DEFchenkOE
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Yep I'd agree with this, he played well don't get me wrong but I think Luongo out of that team has the most chance of making an appearence in the 1st team this season.
The best player on the pitch was Alex Pritchard.
Inter were poor though. I think people shouldn't get carried away with Coulibaly. There is such a massive difference with u19 football and 1st team football. It's only when you see matches you realise how big the difference is. He looks a talent and definitely knows where the net is, he's quick but not as quick as I thought he'd be. I'd say Owen at 17 looked quicker, he was lightning though tbf.
Anyway back onto Coulibaly and I was impressed with his shooting with both feet, not scared to have a go. Still a bit raw though, will take a while but hopefully with the right development he can make it but I'd be very surprised if he gets any game time this season tbh.
C0YS
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I think this is why people are excited by him. He is a talent alright!
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Like has been said, he really has not stopped scoring since joining us, none are basing only on a performance where he was not even the best player, but the fact he has been brilliant playing for an age group much older then him, in some of our XI games and still bagging the goals in!
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Like has been said, he really has not stopped scoring since joining us, none are basing only on a performance where he was not even the best player, but the fact he has been brilliant playing for an age group much older then him, in some of our XI games and still bagging the goals in!
diegooners
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It's not about height, it's about strength. Looking at Coulibaly he looks to me to have the muscular structure of a fully grown man, which suggests two things: He may not grow any more, and he is stronger than the vast majority of players in his age group.
He is physically mature for his age which is a huge advantage, irrespective of height. Look at Tom Carroll, he is 2 inches taller but Coulibaly would own him for power.
I'm not saying he doesn't look exciting, he does, but to say he doesn't have physical advantages for his age is incorrect in my opinion. He looks very much like an 18 year old Defoe to me in terms of style, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that is the sort of player he becomes. He may be much better, or much worse, but I'd wager it is more likely he doesn't become a six footer and ends up an explosive little 'un. Hopefully a very good one. Time will tell.
thekneaf
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If he is stronger than the boys his age the only way to keep him improving is to throw him in with men so he can't rely on his power.
His strength would mean that he really needs to step up sooner rather than later. After all, what is he learning over powering skinning Italian kids?
diegooners
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Can't agree more that it would be a good idea to have him training with the seniors, playing is another matter.
Little Squatman
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The number of people ignoring the posters who actually saw him play and think he isn't ready, but want him to be fast-tracked into the first team regardless makes me laugh. Does that make sense? I am laughing at people who haven't seen him play,have seen that he's scored a few goals,and think he should be in the first team squad.thanks for reading
DiamondLites
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16 is very hard to judge whether a player is just that good, or just more physically mature that his peers whom he is standing out against. some 'prodigies' don't progress further than their physical attributes allow, some go on to be superstars. hopefully this kid will be the latter
i remember towards the end of pre season loads on here were saying how Kane should be in the first team ahead of Defoe and Crouch and that he just needed a chance - however since the hearts game those posts seem to have disapeered and now its all about Coulibaly.
Lilbaz
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Only if he deserves it (looks like he might) there are plenty of other youngsters that might deserve some PT but haven't been hyped that much yet.
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Coulibaly and Kane are both very food prospects, excellent some would say. But let them be that for a while. They are 17 years old. To think that they would be ready for even regular championship football at this stage would be debatable. Over the next few months they will train and develop, I they are ready then we will see them, until then they don't need extra pressures of 100k spurs fans desperate because the transfer window did not go as planned
