Spurs have the youngest starting XI in the Premier League

[kungfugrip]

We have the youngest average age of starting XIs this year in the league. If anyone doubts there is hope for the future then the fact that we're still competing for fourth place and getting to cup finals with such a young team should give us hope. Throw in another summer of coaching, new signings and the fact our young players will be one year wiser......and I think we're onto good things.

Average age of starting XIs in the Premier League this season
Tottenham: 24 years 352 days
Liverpool: 25y 229d
Southampton: 26y 54d
Newcastle: 26y 56d
Man Utd: 26y 103d
Arsenal: 26y 138d
Aston Villa: 26y 308d
Chelsea: 27y 26d
Swansea: 27y 28d
West Ham: 27y 32d
Burnley: 27y206
Hull City: 27y 207d
Stoke City: 27y 225d
West Brom: 28y 27d
Sunderland: 28y 64d
Crystal Palace: 28y 73d
Leicester: 28y 75d
Everton: 28y 125d
QPR: 28y 216d
Man City: 28y 283d

 

[sebcole]

That means Man CIty are doomed hehe

All the teams competing for a top 4 spot seem to have young teams

 

[KingKay]

 

[kungfugrip]

That means Man CIty are doomed hehe

All the teams competing for a top 4 spot seem to have young teams

Yep it's interesting. Most teams in the top half of the table have the youngest sides......apart from Man City who buck the trend.

 

[Bobbins]

Feels a bit like the start of the Jol era again, very young team, lots of British players, club trying generally to buy young and British were possible and also promote the academy products, popular manager, fairly good feeling about the club, beginning to challenge the top teams...

Also shows how far we've fallen, and the major difference between now and then is the rise of City as yet another top team. There's also a horrible undercurrent of bitter hatred towards certain players amongst Spurs fans at the moment which is giving everything a sour aftertaste IMO.

Let's hope we can discover the new Modric and Bale as we did back in those days.

The futures promising but I'm much more cautious and cynical than I was ten years ago, though we have got the promise of the stadium finally being a reality this time.

 

[Mullers]

Although technically we are in a race for 4th place, I don't think we have the sufficient quality or consistency to get there. We had very good draws in the capital one cup no top 4 club to play until the final. There is a core of very good young players who manage to raise their game against the top clubs, we need to improve defensively and get some signings that can improve the first team then we can achieve more.

But unfortunately imo I don't think that will happen, the inability to shift the deadwood will mean that we won't get the signings we need to push on, I also think that Poch won't be able to improve us defensively and that will prove to be his demise.

So we will waste this generation of talent just like we wasted the generation of talent the one time we got to the champions league in our history.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

How many threads have there been on this topic? Probably more than our average age...

Here we go again....

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

Although technically we are in a race for 4th place, I don't think we have the sufficient quality or consistency to get there. We had very good draws in the capital one cup no top 4 club to play until the final. There is a core of very good young players who manage to raise their game against the top clubs, we need to improve defensively and get some signings that can improve the first team then we can achieve more.

But unfortunately imo I don't think that will happen, the inability to shift the deadwood will mean that we won't get the signings we need to push on, I also think that Poch won't be able to improve us defensively and that will prove to be his demise.

So we will waste this generation of talent just like we wasted the generation of talent the one time we got to the champions league in our history.

@Mullers I do wonder if your outlook on all things in life is as negative as your outlook on Spurs. If it is, I pity you. The OP is pointing out the positives of us having a young team and how it may improve. He is not talking about our deadwood, he is talking about the young lads. He is not talking about the past but the hope for the future. Try it.

 

[Mullers]

@Mullers I do wonder if your outlook on all things in life is as negative as your outlook on Spurs. If it is, I pity you. The OP is pointing out the positives of us having a young team and how it may improve. He is not talking about our deadwood, he is talking about the young lads. He is not talking about the past but the hope for the future. Try it.

First of all I don't need your pity or your conceding tone, don't worry about my life, my life is fine, worry about your own life. I came in here to give my view about the youth and why I don't think things will work out.
It's a forum different views are allowed not just ones that have the sun shining out of someone's backside.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

First of all I don't need your pity or your conceding tone, don't worry about my life, my life is fine, worry about your own life. I came in here to give my view about the youth and why I don't think things will work out.
It's a forum different views are allowed not just ones that have the sun shining out of someone's backside.

Without being condescending I think you mean condescending.

The point I am making is I don't know why you can't see that things appear different to what has happened in the past. Manager and players are young and hungry, give the impression of unity and a few budding stars appearing. How can this be a negative.

 

[Mullers]

Without being condescending I think you mean condescending.

The point I am making is I don't know why you can't see that things appear different to what has happened in the past. Manager and players are young and hungry, give the impression of unity and a few budding stars appearing. How can this be a negative.

If you read my post I explained what the negatives are.

 

[PT]

The infrastructure within the club is taking shape and with the personnel presently at the helm, there is a healthy path made available for the kids to hold aspirations about first team involvement. Where there's hope, there's motivation and ambition.
I'd love to see Spurs average four or five academy players each game with a first team squad heavily laden with such.

The past has seen the kids come through and then struggle to keep a foothold before being offloaded elsewhere and the Premiership as well as the Championship is littered with our discarded.

White Hart Lane mark 2 will be a perfect platform for this new generation to supplement the shining lights already beaming this current season.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

If you read my post I explained what the negatives are.

I have and this morning it wound me up (did you guess).

Anyway, I think the deadwood will be gone in the summer but I don't expect or want many signings coming in. I want this group we have given time to build into what they are capable of achieving.

 

[jurgen]

I guess the average would be even lower if it went from the point that the youngsters were all drafted in this season, so that's even more impressive - especially as we are a clear 9 months younger than anyone else including the start of the season.

I do agree in some senses with Mullers, in that if we are making a shift towards youth products and (hopefully) razor sharp scouting of rising stars, then the whole club needs to be pulling in the same direction. It will be so disappointing if Poch isn't allowed any real movement in the summer because we're taking too long to sort outward bound deals. We'll also need to accept that in some cases these younger players don't work out.. and we've been burned by Soldado, Paulinho and to a lesser extent Lamela - but (my positive hopes for Lamela aside), Erik seems to fit the profile of the type of player we should sling money at when we can.

He looked a young player of great potential, and while there's still a long way to go for him to be a clear success, I still see him as the type of player, in terms of his career progression, that we should be trying to buy.. Eriksen wasn't dissimilar albeit a bit more of a talisman for club and country and at the end of his contract. I can't see Levy ever spending big bucks on older guys after Soldado..

I'd be very happy if we go a route of promoting youth teamers and augmenting them with a few young international stars we can get before their peak..

 

[whitesocks]

Their youth does not mean they'll still be around in 3 years -
if the academy is really working now and producing a stream of talent,
then there is likely to be continual and rapid change in the first team.

Is this a good thing?
Probably they will continue to give us an fast, energetic style of play,
but with plenty of frustrating mistakes and naivety.
And the stand-out talents are likely to move on at great profit.
But they'll be our own and a bargain compared to our recent big buys.

This is the club's 'philosophy' now and too much has been invested.
If MP is given the boot, then it will only be for someone else who buys into this.

 

[Mullers]

I have and this morning it wound me up (did you guess).

Anyway, I think the deadwood will be gone in the summer but I don't expect or want many signings coming in. I want this group we have given time to build into what they are capable of achieving.

You didn't read it properly then otherwise you would've known what I view as the negatives.

Of course I would like the team to grow and achieve but what I hope will happen and what I think will happen are two different things.

Imo Ade will not be going anywhere unless we subsidise his wages, Kaboul isn't looking to go anywhere and we will struggle to get acceptable fees for Creaky, Soldado, Paulinho, Capoue. How much do you think we can get for that lot?

 

[jurgen]

Its true about 3 years, but the same is true of any player we get unless we're the top tier of club they can play for eg. Dawson, Huddlestone, Lennon, etc.

I would bet Kane stays with us longer than 3 years even if he continues to play the way he has been. Bentaleb too.

We got about 200 games from Bale, around 150 for the likes of Modric - it was crap when they went, but if we go in hoping to get that amount our of signings, that's 3-5 seasons worth and seems realistic for what a club like us can expect. Given most of our big sales have gone in their mid-late twenties, I think we should be prepared to spend more speculating on 20-23 range players.

 

[kungfugrip]

How many threads have there been on this topic? Probably more than our average age...

Here we go again....

Sorry I haven't seen any other threads. This is an up to date table of all players who've been fielded up to this point in the league so far. If it was just a list of players on the books from the start of the season then I wouldn't have bothered starting the thread. My point was we're doing pretty well, with a lot of young players, very little money to spend, compared to some of the big boys who are only just above us.

 

[jambreck]

Without being condescending I think you mean condescending.

The point I am making is I don't know why you can't see that things appear different to what has happened in the past. Manager and players are young and hungry, give the impression of unity and a few budding stars appearing. How can this be a negative.

Something bad happened in the past.

Therefore, that bad thing will always happen again.

Meanwhile, any good things that happened in the past will never happen again.

Such is Mullersworld.

 

[Flashspur]

Although technically we are in a race for 4th place, I don't think we have the sufficient quality or consistency to get there. We had very good draws in the capital one cup no top 4 club to play until the final. There is a core of very good young players who manage to raise their game against the top clubs, we need to improve defensively and get some signings that can improve the first team then we can achieve more.

But unfortunately imo I don't think that will happen, the inability to shift the deadwood will mean that we won't get the signings we need to push on, I also think that Poch won't be able to improve us defensively and that will prove to be his demise.

So we will waste this generation of talent just like we wasted the generation of talent the one time we got to the champions league in our history.

Ah Mullers, the Eeyore of SC. I've missed you old son!