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elDiablo

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Yes, Pritchard has a lot going for him and also a good record on goals/assists.

Nothing official on released players - but pretty sure Munns has been released from Twitter exchanges, as has Jack Barthram (FB), Jake Nicholoson (DM/CB), John Bostock, Dean Parrett, William Ekong and from Academy Year 2 : Billy Granger, Thomas Gardineer, Mason Bush, Sam Smith and Victor Zapata-Caicedo, but as I say nothing confirmed from OS as yet

No information that Mason has been released, so he may be retained, but completely unknown.

Bit gutted about this guy being released if true. Seemed he had good potential. I wonder which one will be the peter crouch and which one will be the steve slade.

By the way, loving the ask Spursidol feature. Maybe it should have its own place? :)
 

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Yes, Pritchard has a lot going for him and also a good record on goals/assists.

Nothing official on released players - but pretty sure Munns has been released from Twitter exchanges, as has Jack Barthram (FB), Jake Nicholoson (DM/CB), John Bostock, Dean Parrett, William Ekong and from Academy Year 2 : Billy Granger, Thomas Gardineer, Mason Bush, Sam Smith and Victor Zapata-Caicedo, but as I say nothing confirmed from OS as yet

No information that Mason has been released, so he may be retained, but completely unknown.


Didnt Mason face Jamaica with the first Xl. I think the club might have realised that the loan situation at Lorient wasnt really his fault and so may be giving him another season. I see no other reason why they would integrate him with the players, unless they were advertising him to be sold.

Bit gutted about this guy being released if true. Seemed he had good potential. I wonder which one will be the peter crouch and which one will be the steve slade.

By the way, loving the ask Spursidol feature. Maybe it should have its own place? :)


Definitely agree about Zapata-Caceido and considering our dearth in the striking department for the u18s, esp since Shaq has moved up, I think it would be stupid to release him as he had just started to find some form
 

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Didnt Mason face Jamaica with the first Xl. I think the club might have realised that the loan situation at Lorient wasnt really his fault and so may be giving him another season. I see no other reason why they would integrate him with the players, unless they were advertising him to be sold.


Definitely agree about Zapata-Caceido and considering our dearth in the striking department for the u18s, esp since Shaq has moved up, I think it would be stupid to release him as he had just started to find some form

Yes Mason started against Jamaica - big suprrise for me and most other Spurs youth watchers but also a dellght

Zapata-Caceido - if true, I do not understand, as previous posts

I await confirrmation from OS before further detailed comment
 

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I love this thread. Thanks everyone who contributes. It's a great insight into the youth ranks I wouldn't otherwise get. Some green stuff dished out.
 

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Hi Spursidol, who among the current crop will most likely step up and join the first team squad ala Tom Carroll did last season. Not necessarily playing alot games but at least making some appearances for the first team.

Tricky one to answer as the guys who AVB thinks are good enough to step up and make a few appearances to see how they do are the ones probably most likely to be loaned out.

If Ryan Mason stays then he could make a few appearances as could Adam Smith, Massimo Luongo, Harry Kane, Cristian Ceballos or Alex Pritchard. Zeki Fryers is the right age but haven't been too impressed so far (but that could have been because he joined mid season) so he needs to be doing better in training to step up.

I think that the likes of Shaq Coulthirst, Nabil Bentelab, Kenneth McEvoy would be coinsidered too young and inexperienced to actually play first team football - but could be given a place on the bench just for the experience.

Its probable that anyone likely to step up will feature a little in the preseason matches - last year Townsend, Carroll, Smith, Mason and Kane were given first team squad numbers in pre-season, suggesting that the club thought they were most likely to be given a few opportunities, and I guess the same may happen this coming preseason.
 

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With luck Baldini's appointment will lead to a bigger focus on youth, and integration of more of bthe Spurs youth into the first team squad

http://www.football-italia.net/16865/baldini-looks-roma-youth

Roma’s director general Franco Baldini has reflected on his club’s focus on youth and asked that young players are encouraged, rather than used as an excuse.

Baldini, who returned to the capital club in October 2011, has helped oversee the Giallorossi’s rebuilding project, one that has notably involved a number of youngsters.

Roma spent just over €40m on signing Jose Angel, Bojan Krkic, Erik Lamela, Miralem Pjanic and Fabio Borini in summer 2011 - five players all aged 21 or under at time of purchase, whilst Coach Luis Enrique has also handed senior debuts to four of the primavera’s 2011 title-winning team.

“I’m someone who believes blindly in our youth policy,” Baldini reflected, speaking at a round table discussion on youth and sport organised at the University of Rome.

“People often use the word ‘young’ in order to justify a project that is not winning things at that time, in order to ask for more time and sometimes this can be true.

“However, youth cannot be used as an excuse, but as statement of belief.

“Towards young people I want to believe. This year we have focused heavily on young players, of course, after we lost a few games I found myself thinking that next year we will need more experience.

“We have needed support and this year we have had our fans, which we did not expect, but was a very positive thing.
“There are several things we still need to change - for example when parents accompany their children to training at Trigoria and then wait for hours outside, with nowhere specific to wait.”

The club have gone from having the oldest average age for a squad in Serie A in 2010-11 to having the seventh-youngest in 2011-12.
 

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I read that article earlier and put it in the Baldini thread. I was hoping that perhaps Baldini would have a word with AVB and suggest players like Pritchard get promoted into the first team squad. With some intergration I think he could be a first team regular by the end of the year. Personally feel players like him and Mason shouldn't be going out on loan. They're too small and unlikely to be picked in lower leagues. I hope Pritchard doesn't go down the same route as Mason (IMO a wasted career by very poor loan choices)
 

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I like what Baldini has to say. We've got the building blocks in place (the training ground) to make it happen too.

Still can't see any meaningful minutes beyond Carroll, Caulker, Rose, Townsend & Smith for this upcoming season though, which in itself is still a good result.

Almost enjoying the youth team as much as the first team TBH and I'm really looking forward to seeing the progress made by Veljkovic, Bentaleb and Luongo (we desperately <Australia> need him to kick on - we're shit <that might be understating it> in midfield) because along with Pritchard and Ceballos I get a sense of massive potetnial in them

Baldini (speaking of Roma) said "We have needed support and this year we have had our fans, which we did not expect, but was a very positive thing" There's a call out if ever I saw one.... COYS supporters get behind the youth! and this thread, it's the future!
 

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Another interesting piece from Windy - Q&A on the younglings (wow, it's like he has his own cult now - youth supremo :) ).
For the most part, I agree with him - especially about Carroll, about whom I have been ranting for eons, as long time contributors will know :oops: He can really only answer questions on the players he has been asked about and a few have been excluded. I also agree that Veljkovic has looked a player from what I have seen of him. The only slight disagreement I would have is that I think he is underplaying mini-Bale (Kenny McEvoy) a little bit - moving up to the Under-21 squad I thought he looked more than comfortable, and I like he finishing, too.

Anyway, make your own minds up. Here's the piece:

http://www.thefightingcock.co.uk/2013/06/windy-answers-your-questions-on-tottenham-hotspurs-youth/


would you ideally like to see youngsters like Pritchard, Ceballos etc. get loan time.
Windy: As we’ve seen over the past few seasons, getting the right loan club is vital. An experience like Ryan Mason’s had at FC Lorient this season can set a player back, whereas Kyle Walker at Queens Park Rangers/Aston Villa and Steven Caulker at Swansea City came back stronger, and first-team ready.
In terms of those specific players, I think Cristian Ceballos would benefit from being in a team where work ethic is important; he needs to learn to put a shift in for the team, to track the full-back, and to earn to the right to play. A League One club that wants to play decent football, but also recognises the importance of every player working hard would probably suit him – possibly Brentford or Peterborough United.
Alex Pritchard needs to start in the Championship, with a re-assessment at Christmas. For convenience, and easier monitoring, perhaps Charlton Athletic would be a sensible move.
Hegarz: Who do you think our most promising young talent is?
Windy: Everyone knows how highly I rate Tom Carroll, but of the more “undiscovered” talents that have yet to see first team involvement, I rate Milos Veljkovic very highly indeed. For one so young, he exhibits remarkable maturity on and off the ball, and is a genuine talent in terms of his technical ability.
Pairsy1882: Who, of the U21′s side, can you see getting first team opportunities next season?
Windy: A lot will depend on who is on loan – it can often be a case of being in the right place at the right time, as we saw with Shaq Coulthirst this season. By that I mean that there’s no way he’d have been on the first team bench had Jon Obika not been on loan. Realistically, I think Carroll will get games, that Mason deserves chances (although somewhat depressingly I’ve heard talk of him leaving), and Pritchard/Ceballos could be knocking on the door again, depending on whether they are on loan.
gbsthfc: what is the player with the most raw talent throughout all the youth systems (u21,u18,u17 etc) and who is the youth player that will make the most first team appearances next season?
Windy: As mentioned above, I think Veljkovic has a hell of a lot of raw talent. Another would be Nabil Bentaleb and, although I’ve not seen enough of him to judge, Harry Winks (an attacking midfield player) has won rave reviews and has trained with the first team squad.
Ramsingh: If you could say a single sentence to this seasons U21 side – what would it be?
Windy: If you focus your efforts, you could play for Tottenham Hotspur football club – Tottenham Hotspur football club.
Nevill_H: Coulibally/Pritchard/McEvoy, don’t/do believe the hype? (Sorry on the spelling front)
Windy: Coulibaly – don’t. Pritchard – do, to an extent. McEvoy – is there hype? I think Soli Coulibaly has a lot to learn before he can be considered a viable option – maybe a season for the U21s next year will do him good. Pritchard is good, but he’s not first-team ready as some would have you believe. Kenny McEvoy has a good attitude, pace, and a decent delivery, but still has a long way to go. Needs to put in consistent performances for U21s next season.
Kalyl: Do you think our long term development of talent will go downhill, up or stay the same what with Inglethorpe ditching us for L’pool? (some months ago already but would like to hear how much you think was down to him.)
Windy: I think we have a talented group of coaches who took on the Moniz ethos and ideas, and who, collectively, apply them. The loss of an intelligent coach like Inglethorpe, who understood the methodology, knew how to get it across, and seemed to have a good relationship with the players and his colleagues is a shame, but I think it was time for him to move on, and he should not be seen as irreplaceable. I’d expect an appointment this summer.
zin: Of the players who earned a new contract at the beginning of this season what did you make of their progress this season? I refer to Archer, Fredericks, Obika, Kane and Luongo. Also what of Cameron Lancaster? Do you see any future for him following his injury?
Windy:
Archer: Jordan really, really impressed at Wycombe. I only got to see him in action once there but he did well in that game, and their fans generally seemed keen on him. I feel fairly sure that he’ll be our third choice next season, and he might get some cup action.
Fredericks: For his own good, it’s time to cut him loose methinks. Doesn’t strike me as good enough defensively to play right back, and he doesn’t really have a trick to beat a man, so I can’t see him making it as a winger. Would be a decent utility man in League One.
Obika: He’s nearly 23, and I think he needs to move on. That said, he was an absolute bully in the U21 league (probably due to his age/experience to be honest).
Kane: One disastrous loan, one less than impressive loan. He went backwards this year – we rushed him into a Premier League move in my opinion.
Luongo: He did exceptionally well at Swindon – I hope to see him involved in pre-season and then go out on loan in the Championship.
Lancaster: I think his injury history has pretty much destroyed any chance he had of making it at Spurs. I’d love to be proven wrong.
 

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Another interesting piece from Windy - Q&A on the younglings (wow, it's like he has his own cult now - youth supremo :) ).
For the most part, I agree with him - especially about Carroll, about whom I have been ranting for eons, as long time contributors will know :oops: He can really only answer questions on the players he has been asked about and a few have been excluded. I also agree that Veljkovic has looked a player from what I have seen of him. The only slight disagreement I would have is that I think he is underplaying mini-Bale (Kenny McEvoy) a little bit - moving up to the Under-21 squad I thought he looked more than comfortable, and I like he finishing, too.

Anyway, make your own minds up. Here's the piece:

http://www.thefightingcock.co.uk/2013/06/windy-answers-your-questions-on-tottenham-hotspurs-youth/


would you ideally like to see youngsters like Pritchard, Ceballos etc. get loan time.
Windy: As we’ve seen over the past few seasons, getting the right loan club is vital. An experience like Ryan Mason’s had at FC Lorient this season can set a player back, whereas Kyle Walker at Queens Park Rangers/Aston Villa and Steven Caulker at Swansea City came back stronger, and first-team ready.
In terms of those specific players, I think Cristian Ceballos would benefit from being in a team where work ethic is important; he needs to learn to put a shift in for the team, to track the full-back, and to earn to the right to play. A League One club that wants to play decent football, but also recognises the importance of every player working hard would probably suit him – possibly Brentford or Peterborough United.
Alex Pritchard needs to start in the Championship, with a re-assessment at Christmas. For convenience, and easier monitoring, perhaps Charlton Athletic would be a sensible move.
Hegarz: Who do you think our most promising young talent is?
Windy: Everyone knows how highly I rate Tom Carroll, but of the more “undiscovered” talents that have yet to see first team involvement, I rate Milos Veljkovic very highly indeed. For one so young, he exhibits remarkable maturity on and off the ball, and is a genuine talent in terms of his technical ability.
Pairsy1882: Who, of the U21′s side, can you see getting first team opportunities next season?
Windy: A lot will depend on who is on loan – it can often be a case of being in the right place at the right time, as we saw with Shaq Coulthirst this season. By that I mean that there’s no way he’d have been on the first team bench had Jon Obika not been on loan. Realistically, I think Carroll will get games, that Mason deserves chances (although somewhat depressingly I’ve heard talk of him leaving), and Pritchard/Ceballos could be knocking on the door again, depending on whether they are on loan.
gbsthfc: what is the player with the most raw talent throughout all the youth systems (u21,u18,u17 etc) and who is the youth player that will make the most first team appearances next season?
Windy: As mentioned above, I think Veljkovic has a hell of a lot of raw talent. Another would be Nabil Bentaleb and, although I’ve not seen enough of him to judge, Harry Winks (an attacking midfield player) has won rave reviews and has trained with the first team squad.
Ramsingh: If you could say a single sentence to this seasons U21 side – what would it be?
Windy: If you focus your efforts, you could play for Tottenham Hotspur football club – Tottenham Hotspur football club.
Nevill_H: Coulibally/Pritchard/McEvoy, don’t/do believe the hype? (Sorry on the spelling front)
Windy: Coulibaly – don’t. Pritchard – do, to an extent. McEvoy – is there hype? I think Soli Coulibaly has a lot to learn before he can be considered a viable option – maybe a season for the U21s next year will do him good. Pritchard is good, but he’s not first-team ready as some would have you believe. Kenny McEvoy has a good attitude, pace, and a decent delivery, but still has a long way to go. Needs to put in consistent performances for U21s next season.
Kalyl: Do you think our long term development of talent will go downhill, up or stay the same what with Inglethorpe ditching us for L’pool? (some months ago already but would like to hear how much you think was down to him.)
Windy: I think we have a talented group of coaches who took on the Moniz ethos and ideas, and who, collectively, apply them. The loss of an intelligent coach like Inglethorpe, who understood the methodology, knew how to get it across, and seemed to have a good relationship with the players and his colleagues is a shame, but I think it was time for him to move on, and he should not be seen as irreplaceable. I’d expect an appointment this summer.
zin: Of the players who earned a new contract at the beginning of this season what did you make of their progress this season? I refer to Archer, Fredericks, Obika, Kane and Luongo. Also what of Cameron Lancaster? Do you see any future for him following his injury?
Windy:
Archer: Jordan really, really impressed at Wycombe. I only got to see him in action once there but he did well in that game, and their fans generally seemed keen on him. I feel fairly sure that he’ll be our third choice next season, and he might get some cup action.
Fredericks: For his own good, it’s time to cut him loose methinks. Doesn’t strike me as good enough defensively to play right back, and he doesn’t really have a trick to beat a man, so I can’t see him making it as a winger. Would be a decent utility man in League One.
Obika: He’s nearly 23, and I think he needs to move on. That said, he was an absolute bully in the U21 league (probably due to his age/experience to be honest).
Kane: One disastrous loan, one less than impressive loan. He went backwards this year – we rushed him into a Premier League move in my opinion.
Luongo: He did exceptionally well at Swindon – I hope to see him involved in pre-season and then go out on loan in the Championship.
Lancaster: I think his injury history has pretty much destroyed any chance he had of making it at Spurs. I’d love to be proven wrong.

Only bit I would disagree with is the analysis of Harry Kane - the loan at Norwich could have been good, but in his (I think) 2nd appearance he got an injury taking him out until Christmas. He was then rushed back half fit because of injuries to the other Norwich strikers - maybe he lost a bit of co0nfidence by being rushed back - but the next loan to Leicester was a poor choice of loan as Leicester had losts of forward but couldn't score, and weren't playing Kane much. So a pretty bad season fior Kane but really due to injury. Needs to have a good pre- season.

Ceballos analysis is spot on - although I might hope he got a mid table Championsip loan.

Archer - Agreed but not sure he will be no 3 GK, unless we send him out on loan again (with a recall clause) to get more experience, its better for his development to play at a League 1 or championship level rather than sitting on the bench or playing u21's IMO.
 

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Windy: I think we have a talented group of coaches who took on the Moniz ethos and ideas, and who, collectively, apply them. The loss of an intelligent coach like Inglethorpe, who understood the methodology, knew how to get it across, and seemed to have a good relationship with the players and his colleagues is a shame, but I think it was time for him to move on, and he should not be seen as irreplaceable. I’d expect an appointment this summer.

This still irks me too. Inglethorpe was a key component and I wish we'd done everything to keep him here.
 

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Only bit I would disagree with is the analysis of Harry Kane - the loan at Norwich could have been good, but in his (I think) 2nd appearance he got an injury taking him out until Christmas. He was then rushed back half fit because of injuries to the other Norwich strikers - maybe he lost a bit of co0nfidence by being rushed back - but the next loan to Leicester was a poor choice of loan as Leicester had losts of forward but couldn't score, and weren't playing Kane much. So a pretty bad season fior Kane but really due to injury. Needs to have a good pre- season.

Ceballos analysis is spot on - although I might hope he got a mid table Championsip loan.

Archer - Agreed but not sure he will be no 3 GK, unless we send him out on loan again (with a recall clause) to get more experience, its better for his development to play at a League 1 or championship level rather than sitting on the bench or playing u21's IMO.

I actually think it was a complete mistake to send Kane out on Loan at all. With just Defoe and a non pre-seasoned Adebayor, Kane would/should have got game time and having watched him at Leicester a couple of times I think he could have done a better loan striker job than Defoe. His finishing lacks composure at times and I don't think he'll be a world beater but his outside box game and team play is much better than Defoe's.
 

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I actually think it was a complete mistake to send Kane out on Loan at all. With just Defoe and a non pre-seasoned Adebayor, Kane would/should have got game time and having watched him at Leicester a couple of times I think he could have done a better loan striker job than Defoe. His finishing lacks composure at times and I don't think he'll be a world beater but his outside box game and team play is much better than Defoe's.

Can't disagree at all, but more 'established' youngsters Carroll, Townsend and Falque did not get that much game time, so its not clear to me that Kane would have done either.

I'm hoping that Baldiini (who likes youth) having a chat with AVB, plus AVB in his second season not being as susceptable to sniping by the press will mean that AVB does involve more youth in the playing squads this season. It really is vital for Spurs long term developoment.
 

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Can't disagree at all, but more 'established' youngsters Carroll, Townsend and Falque did not get that much game time, so its not clear to me that Kane would have done either.

I'm hoping that Baldiini (who likes youth) having a chat with AVB, plus AVB in his second season not being as susceptable to sniping by the press will mean that AVB does involve more youth in the playing squads this season. It really is vital for Spurs long term developoment.


I was actually just going to ask, after reading the article earlier aswell, how much do you think Baldini knows of our youngsters. As in surely he would know bringing in young players will stunt our players' devlopment so do you think he'll assess them before just looking to purchase some young players?

Surely IF he were to come in Levy would let him know that he wants to get some of these players in the first team
 

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I actually think it was a complete mistake to send Kane out on Loan at all. With just Defoe and a non pre-seasoned Adebayor, Kane would/should have got game time and having watched him at Leicester a couple of times I think he could have done a better loan striker job than Defoe. His finishing lacks composure at times and I don't think he'll be a world beater but his outside box game and team play is much better than Defoe's.

I'd agree - I don't really care, at this moment in time, and didn't then.
You could say the same in January. I suppose the argument is that we were fairly certain that Leandro was done, until his agent absconded from a hotel - apparently.

Windy: I think we have a talented group of coaches who took on the Moniz ethos and ideas, and who, collectively, apply them. The loss of an intelligent coach like Inglethorpe, who understood the methodology, knew how to get it across, and seemed to have a good relationship with the players and his colleagues is a shame, but I think it was time for him to move on, and he should not be seen as irreplaceable. I’d expect an appointment this summer.

This still irks me too. Inglethorpe was a key component and I wish we'd done everything to keep him here.
It will be interesting to see how the coaching team has changed (or, indeed, been left exactly as is) over the Summer. It would also be interesting to know what part Baldini will have within the youth set-up.
On the face of it, it was disappointing seeing Inglethorpe leave, and especially to a mid-table club.* Would be nice to know whether, and how strongly, Levy tried to persuade him to stay, whether Levy felt like his job was done, whether he feels that any changes will be upgrades.
* BeeCee...didn't you have an argument with me at the start of the season, with you stating expressly that Liverpool would finish above us? :)
 

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I'd agree - I don't really care, at this moment in time, and didn't then.

I don't understand what you are saying here ? You would agree but you don't care ?

* BeeCee...didn't you have an argument with me at the start of the season, with you stating expressly that Liverpool would finish above us? :)

Unfortunately you weren't convinced enough otherwise, or you wouldn't have bottled my offer of a wager.
 

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Can't disagree at all, but more 'established' youngsters Carroll, Townsend and Falque did not get that much game time, so its not clear to me that Kane would have done either.

I'm hoping that Baldiini (who likes youth) having a chat with AVB, plus AVB in his second season not being as susceptable to sniping by the press will mean that AVB does involve more youth in the playing squads this season. It really is vital for Spurs long term developoment.

Let's hope so.

It's not youth for the sake of youth either, but when you have people like Dempsey & Huddlestone lumbering around, the limitations of Defoe, Dawson and Lennon and Walker having months of brain farting, only two squad strikers you really could be using the best development group on the country a bit more couldn't you ?
 

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1) I don't understand what you are saying here ? You would agree but you don't care ?

2) Unfortunately you weren't convinced enough otherwise, or you wouldn't have bottled my offer of a wager.

1) Yeah, sorry. had the complete thought, didn't check I typed it out in full :oops: I was saying that I agree with you that sending him to Norwich might not have been the best option, maybe keeping him was - and I don't really care what other members of SC think of him (because there's always a few to pipe up with not good enough), I just think he would have been a third option, and as Defoe went off the boil, at which point he offers little, and Adebayor had a mare of a season, having him there as an option who can connect and influence play better than Defoe and would surely have scored as many goals as Adebayor (least up until the past couple of weeks) would have been an option worth having, IMHO.

2) Oh I was confident enough - I am on record frequently over the last few years calling the decline of Liverpool FC to mid-tabledom - often against quite of lot of detraction bordering on personal abuse (including from you - the detraction, not the personal abuse...you save that for Redknapp and tactical ineptitude debates :eek::eek::eek:
Just that I was (am :cry:) totally skint -when you set yourself up working from home, self-employed and you are praying for sales the day before the new month just so you can cover enough of your overheads to continue working (that would be BT direct debit), it is not exactly a wise idea to throw money around in bets even when you are pretty confident - you can't but the money in the hand to start your game of shove happeny when you don't have the money in the first place :nailbiting:

Ask Bobbins - I've been telling you all that Liverpool would become more of a declining force for the last five years...and, as you know, that opinion stood at the start of the season passed (y)
 

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I was actually just going to ask, after reading the article earlier aswell, how much do you think Baldini knows of our youngsters. As in surely he would know bringing in young players will stunt our players' devlopment so do you think he'll assess them before just looking to purchase some young players?

Surely IF he were to come in Levy would let him know that he wants to get some of these players in the first team

I'm pretty sure that Baldini will know that Spurs have a good youth set up - we've got a decent recors against a number of european teams at youth level so would be regarded as one of the top in the UK in recent years. And I am sure levy will have told him in the recruitment process that he's invested heavily in youth and wants to see players coming from there to the first team - its a key part of the business plan.

How much he knows of individual youth players I don't know, but it would not surprise me if he had seen one or two u19 NextGen and u 21 games as part of his own DD before taking the job (we have been talking for about a year so plenty of time). Even if he knows almost nothing I imagine he would ask for a list of Spurs most promising youth players so that he knows what the pipeline was like.
 

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1) Yeah, sorry. had the complete thought, didn't check I typed it out in full :oops: I was saying that I agree with you that sending him to Norwich might not have been the best option, maybe keeping him was - and I don't really care what other members of SC think of him (because there's always a few to pipe up with not good enough), I just think he would have been a third option, and as Defoe went off the boil, at which point he offers little, and Adebayor had a mare of a season, having him there as an option who can connect and influence play better than Defoe and would surely have scored as many goals as Adebayor (least up until the past couple of weeks) would have been an option worth having, IMHO.

2) Oh I was confident enough - I am on record frequently over the last few years calling the decline of Liverpool FC to mid-tabledom - often against quite of lot of detraction bordering on personal abuse (including from you - the detraction, not the personal abuse...you save that for Redknapp and tactical ineptitude debates :eek::eek::eek:
Just that I was (am :cry:) totally skint -when you set yourself up working from home, self-employed and you are praying for sales the day before the new month just so you can cover enough of your overheads to continue working (that would be BT direct debit), it is not exactly a wise idea to throw money around in bets even when you are pretty confident - you can't but the money in the hand to start your game of shove happeny when you don't have the money in the first place :nailbiting:

Ask Bobbins - I've been telling you all that Liverpool would become more of a declining force for the last five years...and, as you know, that opinion stood at the start of the season passed (y)


Your wrong, I was calling Liverpool as the weak link in the top four cartel too.

But I think they are now on the up, I think they have a progressive manager and have the resources and name (to pull players) to progress. I don't think there was much in it between us and them in terms of squad quality last year, but we had the better manager and Bale.

I think they will be closer to us next year.
 
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