Match Threads Spurs vs Southampton - Match Thread

[shelfboy68]

Because we were 3-0 up, we've got a lot of people coming back from injury, we've had a hardcore week, and we're playing again at the weekend. Maybe.

We have done it quite a bit this season backing off, sloppy defending hence worst goals conceded In the top five, so not sure a hard-core week will cut it seeing as it has been going on since August.

 

[shelfboy68]

I cannot believe we didn't get a CM this summer. Well, I can. But you know.

I think we all can believe it mate.

 

[Kiedis]

Seems to have a very hard time controlling possession these days. Even with Eriksen, Winks and Dier playing. I get that it's tempting to blast long balls for Son and Moura to run on to, but controlling the tempo and not having to make 40 yard sprints back and forth is a way better way of conserving energy,

 

[Chinaspur]

Bashing away? I'm sure they are. Clearly, got the wrong streams.

Not when Harry Winks is playing

 

[worcestersauce]

Right, that was the easiest game I have seen in a long time, genuinely don't think we had to get anywhere near top gear and from sixty minutes we were literally going through the motions and that's all we needed to do. Games are coming thick and fast at the moment so it was good that this game would have taken nothing out of us, I expect some people are disappointed we let in a goal but it was a small price to pay for thirty minutes of saving energy, that said it was clearly offside, the linesman fucked up, in fact I am surprised Charlie Austin didn't call for VAR. Not a walk in the park but we certainly cruised through which was just what we needed right now.

 

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[JimmyG2]

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More fun than the game innit.

 

[worcestersauce]

I don't have a clue what any of that means.
On a lighter note, getting away from the ground last night was a piece of piss.

 

[Jenko]

I would take a draw at Leicester. We need to score 3 goals to win a game at the moment.

A draw? No way dude, that's way too defeatist. Leicester are no longer a good team. Gotta go for wins in this league...

 

[shelfboy68]

I don't have a clue what any of that means.
On a lighter note, getting away from the ground last night was a piece of piss.

Not surprised attendance was fuck all I had nearly as many people watching the Utd game in my front room.

 

[spursfan77]

Seems to have a very hard time controlling possession these days. Even with Eriksen, Winks and Dier playing. I get that it's tempting to blast long balls for Son and Moura to run on to, but controlling the tempo and not having to make 40 yard sprints back and forth is a way better way of conserving energy,

He set up the first goal with a nice bit of play from a short corner but on the whole I thought he looked completely disinterested. Maybe he's struggling and isn't fully fit or maybe he's had enough and doesn't fancy it any more, so his heart isn't in it (the contract isn't signed).

It could even be that he is missing Dembele as Eriksen's best games have come when Dembele is in the side over the last few years. If that is the case I think we really need to pick up another very technical midfielder to play with him and get the best out of his game, because lets be honest, he's been well below par this season so far.

 

[Khilari]

We have been conceding more goals than usual, but this season that's been in part due to a lack of defensive consistency (Toby/Jan clearly our best pairing in a back 4) and a blip from Hugo earlier in the season (now back on top form). Not sure Winks/Dier is the best CM combo, particularly as Dier has been sloppy at passing this term and we clearly are missing Moussa Dembele.

But it's crazy to think that many teams at 3-0 will continue to maintain possession and dominance throughout the 90min. Even teams like Chelsea, who play possession based games will have periods where the opposition will be on top. Southampton played 'well' in the last 30min and we managed the game well. All teams have to defend at some point and expecting a 'Moneybags Man City'-style steam rollering when they have a bench worth more than most first XIs to happen at other clubs is naive.

Finally we are 'managing games' better. The game was won, we defended. Yes they scored but we got the three points having played really well.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

We have been conceding more goals than usual, but this season that's been in part due to a lack of defensive consistency (Toby/Jan clearly our best pairing in a back 4) and a blip from Hugo earlier in the season (now back on top form). Not sure Winks/Dier is the best CM combo, particularly as Dier has been sloppy at passing this term and we clearly are missing Moussa Dembele.

But it's crazy to think that many teams at 3-0 will continue to maintain possession and dominance throughout the 90min. Even teams like Chelsea, who play possession based games will have periods where the opposition will be on top. Southampton played 'well' in the last 30min and we managed the game well. All teams have to defend at some point and expecting a 'Moneybags Man City'-style steam rollering when they have a bench worth more than most first XIs to happen at other clubs is naive.

Finally we are 'managing games' better. The game was won, we defended. Yes they scored but we got the three points having played really well.

we also miss wanyama. a midfield of wanyama and dembele at their peaks would provide protection to our defensive line

 

[Jenko]

once upon a time Harry Kane used to run solid for 90 minutes and he'd run himself to the ground.

With the amount of games he plays he has learnt to conserve his energy now. He's playing differently and has talked about how he was advised to do it by ex pro's.

Now the whole team are doing it. They will get better at it as they are still learning how to do it correctly but it is the right thing to do with our schedule.

I expect over time we'll learn to close these games out better so that we don't look like conceding a goal every 5 minutes. But if you support the team you should support their development. They were right to drop off in intensity last night.

There's no way they'll start like that against Leicester, have some faith.

 

[shelfboy68]

We have been conceding more goals than usual, but this season that's been in part due to a lack of defensive consistency (Toby/Jan clearly our best pairing in a back 4) and a blip from Hugo earlier in the season (now back on top form). Not sure Winks/Dier is the best CM combo, particularly as Dier has been sloppy at passing this term and we clearly are missing Moussa Dembele.

But it's crazy to think that many teams at 3-0 will continue to maintain possession and dominance throughout the 90min. Even teams like Chelsea, who play possession based games will have periods where the opposition will be on top. Southampton played 'well' in the last 30min and we managed the game well. All teams have to defend at some point and expecting a 'Moneybags Man City'-style steam rollering when they have a bench worth more than most first XIs to happen at other clubs is naive.

Finally we are 'managing games' better. The game was won, we defended. Yes they scored but we got the three points having played really well.

We didn't defend that well as they hit the woodwork twice another day that's 2 goals conceded and lloris was MOM so I can't see the argument we saw the game out successfully or to plan sounded like a bit of luck was had.
We did same against wolves 3-0 then did our best to make a game of it lost the lead against arsenal and Watford, I would say the defending from the team perspective or tactics needs looking at but yes we won and 3 points was had.

 

[Kiedis]

It was a perfect defensive display up until the 60th minute. Hojbjergs shot was close, but as long as you limit the opposition to shots from 25 yards, then it's generally job done.
After that, it wasn't good in any way. It's okay to drop off, but you still have to limit the opposition. Would we have started to suddenly be decent again of Redmonds shot had gone in, or would the flow of the game be the same? Would we have flicked a switch?

I'm sceptical. When we're closer to something resembling our best, we keep hold of the ball to control the game and keep the opponents shot volume down. Yesterday was spent whacking the ball in the general direction of Kane, Son and Moura and as often is with those sort of "passes", it's generally akin to giving the ball to the opposition.

We press to force teams into those types of passes, since it's easy to defend against. It's equally easy when we do it ourselves.

Don't know what it's down to though. Son and Moura both tend to invite those types of balls, so a significant part was probably down to us having one too many direct runners on the pitch at once, and that Alli or Lamela instead of Moura or Son would've given us better passing options.

 

[JimmyG2]

Anybody watched
the full version of Andy Warhol's
8hr hr 1964 film 'Empire'
of the Empire State building.
It's very good practice
for the game last night.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuSIOK5Jj8g

I've only watched a 10 minute version.
'Feisty' it is not.

But we won easily,
Back to third
Skipp put the frighteners up Winksy
in a short cameo.
Foyth did OK
with Elders his er.. elder on watch
Nothing to see here.
Move on to the weekend.
Low foul count
(15 total) gives a clue

 

[Shadydan]

A draw? No way dude, that's way too defeatist. Leicester are no longer a good team. Gotta go for wins in this league...

I know what he means, in light of our game against Barca where we'recommend gonna be putting all our energy and focus on, a draw at Leicester wouldn't be the end of the world.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Right, that was the easiest game I have seen in a long time, genuinely don't think we had to get anywhere near top gear and from sixty minutes we were literally going through the motions and that's all we needed to do. Games are coming thick and fast at the moment so it was good that this game would have taken nothing out of us, I expect some people are disappointed we let in a goal but it was a small price to pay for thirty minutes of saving energy, that said it was clearly offside, the linesman fucked up, in fact I am surprised Charlie Austin didn't call for VAR. Not a walk in the park but we certainly cruised through which was just what we needed right now.

Similar thoughts. The forwards and midfield pretty much rested for that last hal an hour. Not pretty but maybe we are learning to be smarter in a long season. Would have been nice to win 6-0 but the chance to sub some players and use the last thirty minutes as a training exercise is probably wise. We even sent Southampton fans home happy as they scored and hit the woodwork on several occasions. It was an incredibly boring game in an empty stadium with less atmosphere than a graveyard

 

[midoNdefoe]

It's crazy, I found myself with some plans being cancelled tonight and decided I would go and see the game on my own, stupidly assuming tickets would be £30+ given it's last minute and the amount unsold - £45 to see Southampton on a wet Wednesday night when I'll go straight from work and not get home until midnight? Do one.

Exactly the motions i went through... Surely it makes sense to be trying to fill it up... It looked desperately empty in there last night!