Match Threads Spurs Vs Stade Rennais : Postponed

[JCRD]

Didn’t think we’d heard the end of this. There’s no reason why the game can’t be played. The only team refusing to play without good reason is Rennes.

Well look theyre ****s I get that and I think theyre ****s too (Rennes that is) but if we had a deadline of end of December then in reality, we couldnt have played them to meet the Uefa timescale

If Uefa allowed to extend this timescale and Rennes still didnt want to play then yeah theyre extra ****s.

I suspect its all down to the deadline of 31st December.

 

[Wadec]

I imagine Levy will let this slide whilst publicly maintaining we have done nothing wrong as I don't think the club are too bothered if we go out.

However, if an issue arises in the future across any of their competitions and UEFA don't remain consistent. Levy will take them to the cleaners.

 

[Guernman]

It would seem that Rennes are wilfully refusing to accomodate any replay dates and if so, then this is a ridiculous precedent for UEFA to set.

If we had played we would have been endangering their players, their staff and all their families as well. And yet, we are seemingly being told that this is what we should have done.

 

[Shepspurs]

I wonder what Uefa rules are regarding 2 leg matches?

If team A has to cancel the 1st leg and team B cancels the 2nd leg, its a 3-3 draw.

 

[Mjerda]

The weird thing here, is that UEFA seems to respect their national winter break. What about the winter break in Norway from November to April? ?

 

[Spurslove]

I imagine Levy will let this slide whilst publicly maintaining we have done nothing wrong as I don't think the club are too bothered if we go out.

However, if an issue arises in the future across any of their competitions and UEFA don't remain consistent. Levy will take them to the cleaners.

Yes and quite rightly.

 

[Spurslove]

It would seem that Rennes are wilfully refusing to accomodate any replay dates and if so, then this is a ridiculous precedent for UEFA to set.

If we had played we would have been endangering their players, their staff and all their families as well. And yet, we are seemingly being told that this is what we should have done.

I'm afraid this entire affair makes Rennes and UEFA both look like a bunch of ****s.

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[spurnut]

Why are they making a rod for their own back. They have set the rules out, if a team has 13 etc, they play. If not they reschedule. Isn't that the type of clarity that people have been asking for from the Prem

Why do you think uefa tried to reschedule the game in the first place?

 

[spids]

The problem was that if they'd awarded us the game (as Rennes would not reschedule) then Vitesse would have unfairly lost out. I am sure that Levy will ensure we are compensated for lost revenues, and will not lose any coefficient points (in a deal with UEFA under the threat of legal action) and happily accept we are out of a tin pot competition that will drain our resources and prevent us competing in the league.

 

[spurnut]

Well according to a report on Football London Spurs are going to accept the decision
This presumably means we won't be chasing compensation, well done to the club if so.
Chasing money over this would have been wrong, and sent out entirely the wrong signals

What if this would have happened in the champs league? I don't think you would be saying this? A precedent needs to be set or if it does happen and with go to the courts they will say why didn't we do this when we were in the conference

 

[chrissivad]

The problem was that if they'd awarded us the game (as Rennes would not reschedule) then Vitesse would have unfairly lost out. I am sure that Levy will ensure we are compensated for lost revenues, and will not lose any coefficient points (in a deal with UEFA under the threat of legal action) and happily accept we are out of a tin pot competition that will drain our resources and prevent us competing in the league.

Why won't we lose any coefficient points?
We can't be awarded any for games we haven't taken part in, or awarded a result.

 

[spurnut]

I hope Rapid Vienna win it now by hammering Rennes in the final!

Sod that they will get extra money for getting to the final! I hope we meet Renne in the next few years! Conte and everyone associated with the club will want to smash them!

 

[Trotter]

The problem was that if they'd awarded us the game (as Rennes would not reschedule) then Vitesse would have unfairly lost out. I am sure that Levy will ensure we are compensated for lost revenues, and will not lose any coefficient points (in a deal with UEFA under the threat of legal action) and happily accept we are out of a tin pot competition that will drain our resources and prevent us competing in the league.

We won't be taking legal action, the only place we can go to is CAS, and there have already been similar cases where UEFA's competition and COVID rules have been upheld by CAS.
We won't get anything out of this, compensation or anything alike, it was just posturing, and I don't even think the posturing really came from Levy, just Conte saying about 10 times that it was unfair,

It will be clear when the ruling is published that we called the game off, without reference to, or agreement of Rennes or UEFA, we still had more than enough players to play the game (in fact their covid rules state we could have signed the whole under 23 squad as emergency cover if we needed to, we still had I believe 16 on A-list without needing to though) and are totally accountable for the game not being played under competition rules, there really is nothing for us to complain about the ruling from UEFA.

As far as I can tell we offered them initially one date (15th Dec), and even then that was on the hope, which was rejected that the Premier League would allow us to postpone the league fixture on 16th.

Best we can hope for, when we see the fine sheet is we are not fined or have a suspended fine against us,

Only got ourselves to blame, should never have needed anything from final match

 

[brasil_spur]

The problem was that if they'd awarded us the game (as Rennes would not reschedule) then Vitesse would have unfairly lost out. I am sure that Levy will ensure we are compensated for lost revenues, and will not lose any coefficient points (in a deal with UEFA under the threat of legal action) and happily accept we are out of a tin pot competition that will drain our resources and prevent us competing in the league.

OK but then Vitesse should have kicked up a storm with Rennes for not rescheduling the game. UEFA should also have a penalty in the rules against a team that doesn't want to reschedule, asides from just giving the other team the win. It definitely sets a precedent for teams in the future if they have already qualified from the group just to not bother with future games.

 

[ShelfWatcher]

Yep, the idea of Levy rubbing his together at some huge compensation claim as some thought would happen was an image I didn't like, and thought was unrealistic.
Like you I thought us losing out would happen and agree with your analysis of what happened.
And finally to complete the cyber love ??in agreement with you over the fact we should have been able to go further without needing that final game
Of course we had very good reasons for calling the game off and I don't blame the club at all for that, but rules is rules ?
Our attitude towards the ECL was poor overall, maybe next time we're in Europe we'll respect the competition we're in

 

[JCRD]

OK but then Vitesse should have kicked up a storm with Rennes for not rescheduling the game. UEFA should also have a penalty in the rules against a team that doesn't want to reschedule, asides from just giving the other team the win. It definitely sets a precedent for teams in the future if they have already qualified from the group just to not bother with future games.

Didnt Uefa have a deadline of 31st December? so we couldnt have arranged it within that time as we have games thick and fast - or am I mistaken about the deadline?

 

[ShelfWatcher]

Didnt Uefa have a deadline of 31st December? so we couldnt have arranged it within that time as we have games thick and fast - or am I mistaken about the deadline?

You're right, that was the deadline. We tried to postpone the Leicester game in order to play Rennes, but unsurprisingly the Prem said no, only to call it off later at Leicesters behest
Rennes effectively turned the deadline into 22nd, as their winter break started then
They of course had no desire to help us as they were already through, plus French hate us and we hate them etc ?

 

[JCRD]

You're right, that was the deadline. We tried to postpone the Leicester game in order to play Rennes, but unsurprisingly the Prem said no, only to call it off later at Leicesters behest
Rennes effectively turned the deadline into 22nd, as their winter break started then
They of course had no desire to help us as they were already through, plus French hate us and we hate them etc ?

The thing is - i still dont know when and how we could have played them - even if the deadline was 31st December? I mean for example we are playign two games in two days next week. This week we had sunday and yesterday

The week before we were going to play Leicester but that got postponed.

So id blame Uefa and not Rennes as their deadline could be shifted to January where there is perhaps a bit more flexibility and Rennes return

 

[Spurslove]

We won't be taking legal action, the only place we can go to is CAS, and there have already been similar cases where UEFA's competition and COVID rules have been upheld by CAS.
We won't get anything out of this, compensation or anything alike, it was just posturing, and I don't even think the posturing really came from Levy, just Conte saying about 10 times that it was unfair,

It will be clear when the ruling is published that we called the game off, without reference to, or agreement of Rennes or UEFA, we still had more than enough players to play the game (in fact their covid rules state we could have signed the whole under 23 squad as emergency cover if we needed to, we still had I believe 16 on A-list without needing to though) and are totally accountable for the game not being played under competition rules, there really is nothing for us to complain about the ruling from UEFA.

As far as I can tell we offered them initially one date (15th Dec), and even then that was on the hope, which was rejected that the Premier League would allow us to postpone the league fixture on 16th.

Best we can hope for, when we see the fine sheet is we are not fined or have a suspended fine against us,

Only got ourselves to blame, should never have needed anything from final match

Absolutely that. 100%. That 'performance' still sends a shiver down my spine. One of the very worst in loving memory, and that's saying something!

 

[ShelfWatcher]

The thing is - i still dont know when and how we could have played them - even if the deadline was 31st December? I mean for example we are playign two games in two days next week. This week we had sunday and yesterday

The week before we were going to play Leicester but that got postponed.

So id blame Uefa and not Rennes as their deadline could be shifted to January where there is perhaps a bit more flexibility and Rennes return

Well, many Spurs fans will blame UEFA and I can understand why.
But it's not a simple matter to rearrange a game when one side, Rennes, has no motivation to do so
The rules are clear, the deadline was Dec 31, UEFA had every right to stand by that deadline, because fixture congestion and resceduling, especially in these Covid ridden times, is extremely difficult
For me, UEFA did nothing wrong. They even referred the case to a committee. No surprise the committee ruled against us. We unilaterally cancelled a game, so we forfeited the game. UEFA didn't even need to try to reschedule. But given the extraordinary circumstances they tried to be flexible. But Rennes knew they were through, so a Gallic shrug of the shoulders from them