Standing still while rivals improve

[SpurinChicago]

Arsenal is a better team now than before. Take the Henry/videa team and compare to the current one; this one has more goals and pedigree.

It just doesn't feel like that for arsenal supporters because they reached a plateau that only big money at the right time could break. Take the new strikers coming to PL; bar ibra none has better pedigree than giroid.

I can't help but feel that fans just get bored of players so they want new ones just because of the uncertainty which can go both ways

They won the league twice in the five years prior to leaving Highbury. Finished 2nd twice. Their worst finish was fourth in those five years. In the ten years since, they have finished second once. It is hard to see any support for your position.

 

[Ribble]

Arsenal is a better team now than before. Take the Henry/videa team and compare to the current one; this one has more goals and pedigree.

Olivier Giroud has never scored more than 16 league goals for Arsenal in a season. Thierry Henry only scored fewer than 17 once - in his last season (not including his one January loan when at NY).

 

[cozzo]

As great as last season was we still ran out of steam towards the end like we always do.

Selling players like Chadli and Mason without replacing them is only going to add to people's concerns about it happening again and even then we'd only have the same amount of players as before so is it really going to be any different?

I believe that we imploded in that Chelsea match. Dembele was the missing link. With him we would have finished second

 

[Neon_Knight_]

They won the league twice in the five years prior to leaving Highbury. Finished 2nd twice. Their worst finish was fourth in those five years. In the ten years since, they have finished second once. It is hard to see any support for your position.

But you're forgetting "giroid" and his "pedigree".

 

[ultimateloner]

They won the league twice in the five years prior to leaving Highbury. Finished 2nd twice. Their worst finish was fourth in those five years. In the ten years since, they have finished second once. It is hard to see any support for your position.

Yep explained by the rise of Man City and Chelsea, both of which come with incomparable finances.

There's only 1 Champion/season and winning isn't all that matters; you have to do it in a way that is fun to watch and that is financially responsible to the stakeholders of the club.

I agree that competitive position is one metric for measuring progress but it isn't the only one.

 

[ultimateloner]

Olivier Giroud has never scored more than 16 league goals for Arsenal in a season. Thierry Henry only scored fewer than 17 once - in his last season (not including his one January loan when at NY).

Yep Henry's a better player than Giroud.
Ozil/Sanchez are better than the AMs in Henry's time (Overmars/Pires etc).
Vieras a better CM/DM than the 'current crop'
And the comparison goes on..
Have to dig out the goals scored numbers to compare (which I don't have)

Note though that Sanchez/Ozil came from the top 2 clubs in the world wheras Henry/Bergkemp etc didn't do so well at theirs.

Arsenal has grown in ability to attract top players.

 

[SpurinChicago]

I agree that competitive position is one metric for measuring progress but it isn't the only one.

Please provide an objective metric that in any way suggests Arsenal is better now.