Summer Transfers

[Duskwen]

meant to be quiet reliable for Wolves stuff

 

[YB123]

meant to be quiet reliable for Wolves stuff

Isnt he off to Arse?

 

[yankspurs]

meant to be quiet reliable for Wolves stuff

I'd GLADLY take Neves.

 

[TheHodFather]

If Arsenal are to spend £50 million on a single player this window then there is zero excuse for us not to spend a bit on players. They're in a worse financial position than us.

Agree that they're in a worse position than us and that we could spend money if we wanted to. But you have to forget about fees and convert everything into an annual cost from an accounting/FFP perspective.

Let's say they sign White for £50m on a 5-year deal and pay him £100k a week. That's £10m a year in amortisation and £5m a year in wages so £15m a year in total. Mesut Ozil on £300k a week was costing them £15m a year, so basically getting shot of Ozil covers the cost of White even though Ozil has left on a free and White has cost them £50m.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I still think we need one more in there. PEA and skipp isn’t enough with the amount of games we will play. Assuming we jettison winks and sissoko though with any luck. I don’t think GLC or ndombele are good enough in a midfield two for the PL.

Yeah see in my opinion we should be playing a midfield 3 with Skipp, Hojbjerg, Ndombele, Lo Celso and Sabitzer competing for the 3 positions.

 

[Jiminio]

How come they are in a worse financial position?

 

[TheHodFather]

How come they are in a worse financial position?

If memory serves their income is basically the same as ours but they have/had a much higher wage bill. We have a lot of debt in absolute terms from the stadium but it's all long-term mortgage-style debt at low interest rates so the annual cost of it isn't actually that high.

 

[he is you know!]

If memory serves their income is basically the same as ours but they have/had a much higher wage bill. We have a lot of debt in absolute terms from the stadium but it's all long-term mortgage-style debt at low interest rates so the annual cost of it isn't actually that high.

Plus continually reducing income from European comps, out of CL for 5 seasons.

 

[TheHodFather]

Plus continually reducing income from European comps, out of CL for 5 seasons.

Yeah it sort of ties in with the wages thing - their wage bill is basically at a level that means they need to be in the CL more or less every year, so being out of it for 5 years has really hurt them.

 

[jolsnogross]

Agree that they're in a worse position than us and that we could spend money if we wanted to. But you have to forget about fees and convert everything into an annual cost from an accounting/FFP perspective.

Let's say they sign White for £50m on a 5-year deal and pay him £100k a week. That's £10m a year in amortisation and £5m a year in wages so £15m a year in total. Mesut Ozil on £300k a week was costing them £15m a year, so basically getting shot of Ozil covers the cost of White even though Ozil has left on a free and White has cost them £50m.

They also had to pay Ozil off. He didn't just wander away from a 300k a week contract.

It's always amusing hearing how the absurdly expensive largesse from clubs isn't actually so large when you divide it by a few years. As though that somehow makes it sustainable or the same shit won't happen next year, and the year after, all the while piling up the outgoings.

This is a novel entry though, usually it's only Spurs that buy low and sell high ?

 

[Nerine]

If memory serves their income is basically the same as ours but they have/had a much higher wage bill. We have a lot of debt in absolute terms from the stadium but it's all long-term mortgage-style debt at low interest rates so the annual cost of it isn't actually that high.

Why some helm could put a “dislike” on this I’ll never know. It’s completely inoffensive. ??‍??‍

 

[Franchise60]

Anyone else feel like Ndombele and Lo Celso don’t fit into a Nuno 343?
At CM he likes them to work hard and quickly spring counter attacks not attempting to dribble past 3 players like Ndombele does. Ndombele doesn’t fit into it at all in my opinion. Lo Celso at a stretch next to say Hojbjerg but really think he’s more a CAM or in a midfield 3. He’ll want explosive pace either side of the ST so neither can play there.
I don’t want Nuno and I don’t want this to occur but It wouldn’t surprise me at all if to raise funds we sold them both this summer.

Yeah, I think both would be hurt by Nuno’s arrival. It seems he prefers a more defensive pairing.

Lo Celso would have the best chance as he could maybe play in a two or more advanced.

it’s a shame that we haven’t been able to see a real run at a midfield 3 of PEH, Lo Celso, and Ndombele.

 

[punkisback]

He’d be the best possible center back signing we could make, the only players who’d be better almost certainly wouldn’t want to join. In fact, I didn’t even think Kounde was realistic at all. I rarely ever say this about a potential signing, but we’d be a really weird career move for Kounde. I know United has been linked, but clearly they want varane as their first option who will be cheaper as he doesn’t wanna renew at Madrid and is entering his final contract year, and they also seem to really like Pau Torres. Varane is almost certainly leaving to go somewhere, and Madrid have been linked to Kounde. I think he’s ready to step up to the very biggest clubs in the world right now. But I guess big 6 English club based in London is enticing for most players, and Paratici is very personal in his recruiting, so maybe that could help too.

He’s very quick and fast, he can play all types of passes. Diagonals, sharp passes to a forward player, layoffs after a run forward, etc. And his runs are a trademark of his game, he really does have the footwork and the ball control of a midfielder or forward. He loves to burst forward with the ball, but Sevilla’s system allows for this, as Fernando often covers for Kounde when he runs forward. His solo run against Barca in the Copa del Rey is obviously a highlight, but there are many other instances of him creating an attack by himself.

The footwork translates to defending too, and that combined with his agility, turning speed, and straight line pace make him elite in 1v1 situations. He wins the ball on the front foot a lot, and that is due to his athleticism and timing, but he isn’t too prone to committing fouls in these situations. He is aware of space and opponents, and he intercepts a lot of final third passes and passes in and around the box. He’s a bit of a combination of a “attack the ball” and a “sit back” defender, he’s very complete. He’s made some great goal line clearances and crucial blocks too. Inter in the EL final, Bayern in the Supercup, Krasnodar in the CL. The height is going to be the talking point. 5’10” isn’t midget height, but I could see it being an issue. He does have great spring though, and he can time his jumps well. But hasn’t been tested consistently by tall, physical forwards in La Liga, Ligue 1, or in Europe. I would say he defended Haaland decently in the CL, especially when he tried to pick the ball up deeper and turn, but he was bested in the individual duel in that Haaland scored 4 goals in the tie, and that’s obviously the prototype striker in Europe at the minute.

Would be like the Ndombele deal, incredibly talented young player, ton of exposure and hype, tested in Europe, top form. But then we just played a CL final and had a bunch of cash, and now we’re in the Conference League off of a pandemic. There really shouldn’t be excuses though, the club should be expected to make these types of signings, or at least provide the money to do so. Obviously if there’s any chance of signing a player like this, you try really hard to get it done, but the price (I’d guess 60 mil) isn’t steep (see Ben White), but rather is it possible to spend that on one player unless Kane goes (just trying to think how the club would think, even though this really shouldn’t be a restriction). CB has to be the priority, and he’s the best possible option for me outside of those who wouldn’t join us.

There is world class potential there. One of those players who it just needs to click for abs he will be amazing. Very young still.

 

[spursfan77]

How come they are in a worse financial position?

Have a search in the arsenal thread for the Swiss ramble tweets on their finances. It’s all in there. We are doing better than them in every financial metric.

 

[spursfan77]

Anyone else feel like Ndombele and Lo Celso don’t fit into a Nuno 343?
At CM he likes them to work hard and quickly spring counter attacks not attempting to dribble past 3 players like Ndombele does. Ndombele doesn’t fit into it at all in my opinion. Lo Celso at a stretch next to say Hojbjerg but really think he’s more a CAM or in a midfield 3. He’ll want explosive pace either side of the ST so neither can play there.
I don’t want Nuno and I don’t want this to occur but It wouldn’t surprise me at all if to raise funds we sold them both this summer.

I think we should sell ndombele. I just don’t see how he fits into a premier league midfield.

 

[worcestersauce]

How come they are in a worse financial position?

They paid over £70 million for Pepe.

 

[Gbspurs]

I think we should sell ndombele. I just don’t see how he fits into a premier league midfield.

Sell if anyone wants to buy him at good money but it's not a priority. If we can unlock his talent consistently we will have a huge player on our hands.

 

[Tucker]

Sell if anyone wants to buy him at good money but it's not a priority. If we can unlock his talent consistently we will have a huge player on our hands.

We already do… ??????

 

[bbunc]

Could do a lot worse than dolberg as a relatively cheap Kane backup.

 

[LukaKranjcar]

This Damsgaard kid we've been linked with looks a big prospect. Absolute shocker of a hairline at 20 though