TalkSpurs this morning

[Dan Yeats]

the fans, as a mass, don't seem to like AVB. From the terraces at the Lane, to the pubs surrounding, to people on public transport, to radio phone-ins, to my mates at home, to my dad.

But not the Spurs bloggers, who seem to have unanimously condemned the booing - I've read several other than DML with that theme.

That may say something about the link between being able to take a reasoned view and the capability of putting a coherent sentence together I guess.

 

[mk_spur]

I was/am not 100% sure of AVB's quality but and i think this is a big but cant we allow him the time he needs to get his beliefs and set up to nurture. Levy i think regardless of your viewpoint has again let us down and in doing so has failed to support his new incoming manager properly in what is an uphill task at the best of times. The players need to take responsibility as well as fans discuss the merits or lack of them of the manager and the chair the players seem to get off scot free. We all need to come together as a collective. The fans need to stop booing and actually sing as there performance so far has been embarrassing the manager needs to work his magic quick and the chairman needs to buy the players in positions we as fans can blatantly see we are lacking. Time is needed or we will go down the same old root of a succession of some mediocre and some sub standard managers at the helm of our great club and thats the last thing we need.

 

[lukadownthelane]

Personally I think it's not right to boo the team but that is not the issue here. There is something clearly wrong. It has been a long time since I have seen a spurs team so scared of the ball as yesterday and fans have a right to be worried. Having a shit team in the 90s doesn't make it ok for us to start a decline now.

 

[Franchise60]

AVB was always going to need a good start here to keep people off his backs. It is one of the reasons many of us called on Levy to back the manager before the season started and why there is so much anger for us going three matches with an incomplete team.

The club have put AVB in a very tough situation, it's a shame.

 

[guiltyparty]

But not the Spurs bloggers, who seem to have unanimously condemned the booing - I've read several other than DML with that theme.

That may say something about the link between being able to take a reasoned view and the capability of putting a coherent sentence together I guess.

I hear myself having the same argument again and again, making the same points. Abramovich did not give AVB a chance, Chelsea's players did not give him a chance and the fans didn't. We all agreed that we were better than that, that Chelsea are a rotten bunch spoiled by bought success, oil money and arsehole players.

Levy's keeping his end of the bargain, however pleased you are with the signings - you do not allow your manager to dismantle and rearrange a top 4 team like this unless you are. The players seem to be on the whole backing him, if still very much in the 'so how does this thing work?' early days. So it's time we kept our end of the bargain, or we're the ones letting the side down.

I do really believe this is a belated realisation of what replacing Redknapp with AVB means. People seem to think that it's a computer game, and you can swap in a manager, change the formation and it just works. It doesn't. This is a massive upheaval

But often It's like me trying to get my dad to stop buying the Daily Mail: futile

 

[Dan Yeats]

I hear myself having the same argument again and again, making the same points. Abramovich did not give AVB a chance, Chelsea's players did not give him a chance and the fans didn't. We all agreed that we were better than that, that Chelsea are a rotten bunch spoiled by bought success, oil money and arsehole players.

Levy's keeping his end of the bargaining, however pleased you are with the signings - you do not allow your manager to dismantle and rearrange a top 4 team like this unless you are. The players seem to be on the whole backing him, if still very much in the 'so how does this thing work?' early days. So it's time we kept our end of the bargain, or we're the ones letting the side down.

I do really believe this is a belated realisation of what replacing Redknapp with AVB means. People seem to think that it's a computer game, and you can swap in a manager, change the formation and it just works. It doesn't. This is a massive upheaval

But often t's like me trying to get my dad to stop buying the Daily Mail: futile

Quoted just because it's fucking perfect. You get an A+ for that guiltyparty, and an OBE for services to common sense, intelligence and perspective.

 

[Graysonti]

Should have backed Arry in Jan and Again in summer.

Simples.

Will back avb mind

All our clown fans wanting Arry out cos of his character.

 

[Warik]

The media is at least partially to blame for this. A lot of fans are sheep who believe everything journalists put in opinion pieces about Spurs. All through the summer various media outlets have been making digs at the new regime, pretty much sowing the seeds of doubt into the minds of Spurs fans right from the start, so after that a good start was really needed from the team, which hasn't happened, and the mediocre start has simply confirmed to a lot of those fans what they were already thinking due to the media campaign. Everyone has to face it, Levy sacked the media hero, and hired the media villain and this was always going to happen in our first rough patch, no point acting shocked about it now, just got to keep hoping that the team will suddenly gel together and the media will have to back off after a few positive results.

 

[worcestersauce]

If AVB serves up what Redknapp served up at the end of last season I will be disappointed; in the last thirteen games we took 16 points so if after 13 games we only have 16 points I'll accept that we are as bad as under Harry, if AVB can't get us more than 16 points from a possible 39 then it'll be justified.
AVB wasn't my choice but if we don't get behind him and the team then we don't deserve any success.

 

[doowaa]

We can take a little bit Of solace though. Liverpool are crap. Quinny will love that. Ha ha.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Not always a bad thing having the rest of the league & media against you. (look at chelsea with mourinho)
Their fans loved mourinho and they used the negative attention to create an us against the world attitude which helped them imo.

The media LOVED mourinho. The ultimate soundbite coupled with great success.

 

[doowaa]

The media LOVED mourinho. The ultimate soundbite coupled with great success.

And good looking too.

 

[onthetwo]

I hear myself having the same argument again and again, making the same points. Abramovich did not give AVB a chance, Chelsea's players did not give him a chance and the fans didn't. We all agreed that we were better than that, that Chelsea are a rotten bunch spoiled by bought success, oil money and arsehole players.

Levy's keeping his end of the bargain, however pleased you are with the signings - you do not allow your manager to dismantle and rearrange a top 4 team like this unless you are. The players seem to be on the whole backing him, if still very much in the 'so how does this thing work?' early days. So it's time we kept our end of the bargain, or we're the ones letting the side down.

I do really believe this is a belated realisation of what replacing Redknapp with AVB means. People seem to think that it's a computer game, and you can swap in a manager, change the formation and it just works. It doesn't. This is a massive upheaval

But often It's like me trying to get my dad to stop buying the Daily Mail: futile

Nicely written - the only thing id question is whether the players are either not backing him (a la Chelsea brigade as they think hes a numpty) or whether theyre backing him but the ideas are new and this take time to digest. Hard to tell at the moment and i hope hes given time. If Harry was truly as tactically indifferent as he always made out then it must be a big change for the players to get someone very technical as his successor.

 

[matt5768]

amazing what might be said if we win the next few games....all of a sudden he will be a decent boss and worthy again, even better if we win well....i think we at least have to get 10-15 games in before wondering whats next

 

[Jaispurs]

Jaisurs

Does it make your feel better when you Boo your team after two home games? what is your objective when you start Booing? is it that you have the right to Boo because you've paid your hard earn cash to watch a game of football?

Seriously Booing has a negative affect example Blackburn, if you are a supporter and want the team to improve the best thing to do is support the players get behind the manager welcome AVB to our club he wants to do well infact he was pretty brave coming in after HR. We all knew from the start he'll be under pressure because of his pervious appointment at Chelsea the media darling Redknapp getting booted out by Levy and so begins the sack race It's not a secret the general sports media had already ear marked him to fail. The radio call ins are just stoking the flames milking in the money from the number of idoits already complaining crying for Redknapp to come swanning back to save our beloved Tottenham Hotspur-don't be a foolish try to be positive and support your club, were unbeaten at home unbeaten in two.

COYS thats all that needs to be said

I have never boo'd my own team. I never have and never will. I stated that the crowd are not happy and ready to lynch Levy.
What I don't understand is why we are a team in transition? We played free flowing football with or without Modric or VDV. The players look disinterested

 

[Spursidol]

http://www.totaltottenham.com/blogs/dutch-blunt-sack-everyone/

A worthwhile read on the subject.

 

[king26]

never mind turn it off never put it on is better

 

[onthetwo]

http://www.totaltottenham.com/blogs/dutch-blunt-sack-everyone/

A worthwhile read on the subject.

thats a great read...we have a brand new spine to our team so it could take a while to work.
But booing wont help anyone AT ALL, except the media who love it.

 

[DIEHARD]

http://www.totaltottenham.com/blogs/dutch-blunt-sack-everyone/

A worthwhile read on the subject.

I stopped "Are you a SUPPORTER or a fan who just wants to be entertained?". Ok two things wrong with that statement.

Firstly - can a supporter not also want to be entertained?

Secondly - I pay thousands a year (like two) to support the team does that mean when its shit I cant moan etc?

I agree with the notion that there should be no booing and im disgusted by it but i can surely come on a forum and moan? no?

 

[only1waddle]

http://www.totaltottenham.com/blogs/dutch-blunt-sack-everyone/

A worthwhile read on the subject.

That is the best piece i have read on the current situation, good find..