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longtimespur

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Same team as won the last game but if/when we're ahead earlier substitutions for Dier (Bentaleb or Mason) / Alli (Onomah or Carroll / Kane (Son or Chadli).
 

bubble07

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Lloris
Walker Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Dier Dembele
Lamela Alli Eriksen
Kane

Subs: Vorm Davies Wimmer Benteleb Mason Chadli Son (Reserve: Trippier Carroll Onomah Townsend)
 

EdmontonJohn

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Think we have to be brave enough to rotate a bit to keep fresh for Watford game.

I would bring in Trippier, Bentaleb and Son .. giving Dier and Alli much needed rest (mental as well as physical), and keeping Trippier involved (and his crossing is good). It also lets Eriksen play as 10.

Lloris
Trippie Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Bentaleb Dembele
Lamela Eriksen Son
Kane

If we get comfortably ahead .. take Kane and Dembele off .. but Norwich are well organised and don't ship too many away from home, so think that's a bit wishful thinking!
 

dickieven

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I think this will be a tricky game and a potential banana skin similar to Newcastle. Norwich's performance at Man Utd was excellent. Appreciate they are not on form but if we went there and performed like that for a 2-1 win we would all be creaming ourselves.

Anyway I think we'll pick the normal team and no resting anyone. People talk about the busy Christmas period but isn't it just two normal weekend games with a midweek game in between. We've been playing 3 games a week for most of the season with little rotation.

I'd like to see Mason on the bench now he is fit as he adds something different to our game I think.
 

thebenjamin

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I think this will be a tricky game and a potential banana skin similar to Newcastle. Norwich's performance at Man Utd was excellent. Appreciate they are not on form but if we went there and performed like that for a 2-1 win we would all be creaming ourselves.

Anyway I think we'll pick the normal team and no resting anyone. People talk about the busy Christmas period but isn't it just two normal weekend games with a midweek game in between. We've been playing 3 games a week for most of the season with little rotation.

I'd like to see Mason on the bench now he is fit as he adds something different to our game I think.

It isn't though because it's only 1 rest day. Even with euro vase Thursday you get 2 days. It's well documented in sports science now that 2 days is the absolute minimum rest a player needs between games to recover enough to play again. Less than 48 hours later, their performance level will inevitably dip and the risk of injury going through the roof.

Some players just won't be able to manage it. Dembele for example, no chance of him starting both games I wouldn't have thought.
 
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Laughing at all the people putting Dembele in the 10th role, which he hasn't played for us in like 2 years! :ROFLMAO:
 

wrd

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Think we have to be brave enough to rotate a bit to keep fresh for Watford game.

I would bring in Trippier, Bentaleb and Son .. giving Dier and Alli much needed rest (mental as well as physical), and keeping Trippier involved (and his crossing is good). It also lets Eriksen play as 10.

Lloris
Trippie Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Bentaleb Dembele
Lamela Eriksen Son
Kane

If we get comfortably ahead .. take Kane and Dembele off .. but Norwich are well organised and don't ship too many away from home, so think that's a bit wishful thinking!

Thats bollocks theyve conceded 19 goals away this season, 2nd most in the league.. this game is a great opportunity for kane to grab a couple. Norwich always been the sort of team who can get trampled by one class player as wijnaldum proved already this season and suarez 3 or 4 times
 

sloth

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It isn't though because it's only 1 rest day. Even with euro vase Thursday you get 2 days. It's well documented in sports science now that 2 days is the absolute minimum rest a player needs between games to recover enough to play again. Less than 48 hours later, their performance level will inevitably dip and the risk of injury going through the roof.

Some players just won't be able to manage it. Dembele for example, no chance of him starting both games I wouldn't have thought.

I think the point others have made is that rest in this case is relative to the rest the other team has had. For example, if you play a match after only one rest day and the other side has had the whole week, then you are at a significant disadvantage. If they also have only had one rest day, then the team which is fittest and most capable of switching things around has the advantage.

Trying to second guess Watford's approach and adapt our team to that against Norwich is a mug's game. Let's not over think it. We play our strongest available side against Norwich, and that's it.
 

rebrab

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I think you have to play a strong team, if they win then the momentum can carry the unrested players through the watford game.
 

cliff jones

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Barring injuries i can only see the left sided players being rotated?

I'd play rose at home and davies away , son at home and eriksen away.

Suspect mousa and alli will be subbed off at some stage, but want to see nabil and mase If fit or josh if not, please no wee tom
 

spurs mental

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Last season Poch only made 4 changes between the games against Leicester and United. The full backs, one of the midfield 2, and one of the attacking 4. Probably imagine it will be much the same this year.
 

UpTownSpur

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Last season Poch only made 4 changes between the games against Leicester and United. The full backs, one of the midfield 2, and one of the attacking 4. Probably imagine it will be much the same this year.

And we got played off the park by Man U and were lucky to get a draw. Hopefully he's learnt from that and will introduce some more fresh legs and use the squad.
 

shoggy33

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Think Mason could useful in this game if he's available. He makes clever runs in behind which might help open them up if they just come to defend.
 

spurs mental

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And we got played off the park by Man U and were lucky to get a draw. Hopefully he's learnt from that and will introduce some more fresh legs and use the squad.

I don't remember us being played off the park by United. I know they had some chances but they were by no means amazing in comparison to us.
 

dagraham

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Hopefully with Mason back Dier can get a rest and come back into the team for the Watford game. I'd like us to rest Kane too because although it won't be easy against Norwich, the away games against Watford and Everton are much tougher.
 

thebenjamin

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I think the point others have made is that rest in this case is relative to the rest the other team has had. For example, if you play a match after only one rest day and the other side has had the whole week, then you are at a significant disadvantage. If they also have only had one rest day, then the team which is fittest and most capable of switching things around has the advantage.

Trying to second guess Watford's approach and adapt our team to that against Norwich is a mug's game. Let's not over think it. We play our strongest available side against Norwich, and that's it.


I just think you have to look at each player individually. Is Dembele capable of playing 2 games that close back to back without risking injury? Given his injury history and the fact Poch rests him for all the midweek games one would conclude that he isn't. Therefore you have to decide whether he's more important for Norwich home or Watford away.
 

Shadydan

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I just think you have to look at each player individually. Is Dembele capable of playing 2 games that close back to back without risking injury? Given his injury history and the fact Poch rests him for all the midweek games one would conclude that he isn't. Therefore you have to decide whether he's more important for Norwich home or Watford away.

We have a week's rest after the Watford match so I think it's safe to say he can play both matches.
 

UpTownSpur

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I don't remember us being played off the park by United. I know they had some chances but they were by no means amazing in comparison to us.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30566679

They could easily have been 3-0 up at half time.

Lots of bad things could happen if we don't rotate enough players. Verts and Walker are one booking away from a suspension. Toby has a history of hamstring problems, so Wimmer really needs to play at least one game. Pushing Kane too much could wreck our season if he gets a fatigue injury.

I'd play no more than 4 outfield players in both games.
 
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