Team vs Wigan

[ravo]

Lloris​

Walker - Gallas - Caulker - Verts​

Sandro - Dembele (please!)/Hudd​

Lennon - Ade/Falque - Bale​

Defoe​

Why you ask? Well, AVB is not going to drop Defoe, which as painful as that might be to our overall attractive football, is probably warrented (JD is in good form).

So, until Ade gets fully fit and has an extended run playing #9, I'd have him just in behind Defoe, as he can take the long ball, hold up play and generally make things happen. I have faith that Siggi will come good, but only when played behind Ade. So, until that point, Siggi goes on the bench, as it just isn't working. As for Dempsey, I am not so sure...

Falque is looking better and better and seems to have the ability to move into midfield and make himself available better than the other two, thus can make things happen. So, for me he would get the nod over both Siggi and Dempsey.

 

[Snarfalicious]

------------------------- Lloris ---------------------------
Walker --- Caulker ------ Vertonghen --- Naughton
------- Hudd/Carroll ------------- Sandro ------------
Lennon ---------------- Falque ------------------ Bale
--------------------Defoe/Adebayor ----------------------

Reasoning:

GK: Lloris needs to start. I thought he was great against Norwich. Really quick to make a decision, and the goals today were hard luck.

Defense: Vertonghen needs to kick back inside and begin rebuilding the relationship with Caulker. Walker and Naughton can get the job done on the outside.

Midfield: I personally want to see Carroll start but I know that won't happen. If Livermore really did go down with an injury, I'm curious if Carroll might get the start so AVB can use his beloved late switch midfield move with THudd. I think Carroll and Sandro could be a good pairing, but it'd be aggressive. I don't think Dembele plays so I've excluded him (I think if he's close to 100% AVB will throw him out there, though).

Attack: Lennon and Bale seem to be givens at this point (Unless either is scheduled to have another baby). Now, the big shakeup comes with Falque in the hole. I actually love the idea. Falque showed today (and against Maribor) that he's got poise on the ball, he's got an eye for the pass, and he's also got the restraint to know when the shot is there, and when it's time to look for the outlet. Siggy/Dempsey have been so bad there, I think he could really shine just by having a decent game. Not only would that be great for Tottenham and Falque, but it also might put Siggy/Dempsey on notice. I'd love to see Adebayor up front, but I really doubt he's given the start with how long he's been out in fear of him being terribad. But, I think Falque could really supply some creative touches to Ade/Defoe.

 

[Pete Spur]

Dembele and Ade back would be fucking huge

 

[Kingellesar]

Thought Dembele was a few weeks off?

No matter what formation or team I suggest, we all know Friedel will be in goal, Defoe will be lone striker and one of Dempsey or Siggurdsson will be running around like a headless chicken. We will concede in the last 15 minutes too just to be consistent./negativemodeoff

Fuck Wigan, lets have a 9-0 this time, Defoe x 9. Bale 9 assists.

 

[ravo]

Thought Dembele was a few weeks off?

No matter what formation or team I suggest, we all know Friedel will be in goal, Defoe will be lone striker and one of Dempsey or Siggurdsson will be running around like a headless chicken. We will concede in the last 15 minutes too just to be consistent./negativemodeoff

Fuck Wigan, lets have a 9-0 this time, Defoe x 9. Bale 9 assists.

POTL seems to think he could be in with a shout for Saturday.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

I know it's not fashionable, but 4-4-2 can work. If all fit, Bale and Lennon on the wings Sandro and Dembele a really strong base with some good feet in there, Adebayor as the falcrom with Defoe buzzing around him. Sometimes just get your best players out there, certainly when others are struggling for confidence. Formations
are a little overrated sometimes, because Adebayor will play in areas that Dempsey and siggudson take up alot of the time anyway and having your best players and players that will play with confidence out there trumps a certain formation.

 

[nav007_2000]

Lloris is a must.

Should Caroll be given a chance?

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

Lloris​

Walker Gallas Caulker Vertonghen​

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Sandro Huddlestone​

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Lennon Falque Bale​

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Defoe​

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Assuming that:​

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a) Dembele's not fit​

b) Ade's still "unwell"​

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I think Falque's worth a start, he looked brighter in possession last night than Dempsey and Siggy have done so could be worth a try in the hole behind Defoe.​

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The goalkeeper situation must be resolved now. Lloris must start, for me.​

 

[Spursidol]

------------------------- Lloris ---------------------------
Walker --- Caulker ------ Vertonghen --- Naughton
------- Hudd/Carroll ------------- Sandro ------------
Lennon ---------------- Falque ------------------ Bale
--------------------Defoe/Adebayor ----------------------

Reasoning:

GK: Lloris needs to start. I thought he was great against Norwich. Really quick to make a decision, and the goals today were hard luck.

Defense: Vertonghen needs to kick back inside and begin rebuilding the relationship with Caulker. Walker and Naughton can get the job done on the outside.

Midfield: I personally want to see Carroll start but I know that won't happen. If Livermore really did go down with an injury, I'm curious if Carroll might get the start so AVB can use his beloved late switch midfield move with THudd. I think Carroll and Sandro could be a good pairing, but it'd be aggressive. I don't think Dembele plays so I've excluded him (I think if he's close to 100% AVB will throw him out there, though).

Attack: Lennon and Bale seem to be givens at this point (Unless either is scheduled to have another baby). Now, the big shakeup comes with Falque in the hole. I actually love the idea. Falque showed today (and against Maribor) that he's got poise on the ball, he's got an eye for the pass, and he's also got the restraint to know when the shot is there, and when it's time to look for the outlet. Siggy/Dempsey have been so bad there, I think he could really shine just by having a decent game. Not only would that be great for Tottenham and Falque, but it also might put Siggy/Dempsey on notice. I'd love to see Adebayor up front, but I really doubt he's given the start with how long he's been out in fear of him being terribad. But, I think Falque could really supply some creative touches to Ade/Defoe.

Several people lauding Falque after 2 decent appearances against Maribor (2nd half) and a second string Norwich, but these were as a winger, and its only 2 games against not strong opposition. Needs to get more experience there before moving him inside - plus he also needs to show he can get goals to be played 'in the hole' and he's not scored too many, meaning long term no 10 is probably not his position.

Understand that Sigurdsson and Dempsey have not done much to deserve a start so far in their Spurs careers - partly because when playing 'in the hole' behind Defoe would be testing for most players (in that position their is a huge reliance on Defoe playing them in - and that is the weak part of Defoe's game), but if we are going to drop them from strarting line up, think we either need to play Adebyor there - or take a punt on Ryan Mason out of development squad (who is a natural no 10). If we do not fancy either of those, think we need to play 442 against Wigan - with Adebayor and Defoe up front, thereby getting Adebyaor minutes without losing Defoe's goals.

However need to revert back to 4231 after Wigan game - 442 against stronger opposition than Wigan is not something to contemplate.

 

[thePessimist]

Lloris is a must.

Should Caroll be given a chance?

decent player and a huge talent, but not a starter i the league for me yet. from what i've seen so far he doesn't contribute enough offensively. we need some creativity going forward and with dembele out, huddelstone is our best option imo

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

Several people lauding Falque after 2 decent appearances against Maribor (2nd half) and a second string Norwich, but these were as a winger, and its only 2 games against not strong opposition. Needs to get more experience there before moving him inside - plus he also needs to show he can get goals to be played 'in the hole' and he's not scored too many, meaning long term no 10 is probably not his position.

Understand that Sigurdsson and Dempsey have not done much to deserve a start so far in their Spurs careers - partly because when playing 'in the hole' behind Defoe would be testing for most players (in that position their is a huge reliance on Defoe playing them in - and that is the weak part of Defoe's game), but if we are going to drop them from strarting line up, think we either need to play Adebyor there - or take a punt on Ryan Mason out of development squad (who is a natural no 10). If we do not fancy either of those, think we need to play 442 against Wigan - with Adebayor and Defoe up front, thereby getting Adebyaor minutes without losing Defoe's goals.

However need to revert back to 4231 after Wigan game - 442 against stronger opposition than Wigan is not something to contemplate.

It's funny that you're advocating Ryan Mason who's had no game time for us in the same breath as saying Falque shouldn't be given a chance after he's had a couple of decent outings for us!

I usually agree with you but not on this one. I think Falque should be given the chance in the hole. His one through ball for Bale was top class at one point last night! We need someone with that kind of craft and vision in that position.

Why not give him a chance to see if he's up to it? If it goes wrong and he's not quite up to it yet we can change it and bring Siggy or Dempsey on.

 

[Spursidol]

It's funny that you're advocating Ryan Mason who's had no game time for us in the same breath as saying Falque shouldn't be given a chance after he's had a couple of decent outings for us!

I usually agree with you but not on this one. I think Falque should be given the chance in the hole. His one through ball for Bale was top class at one point last night! We need someone with that kind of craft and vision in that position.

Why not give him a chance to see if he's up to it? If it goes wrong and he's not quite up to it yet we can change it and bring Siggy or Dempsey on.

Agree its a toughie - my reasoning is Falque looked good as a winger for 2 games but no experience at Spurs (that I am aware of) as a no 10 or Adebayor (if fit has to be favourite) or if Ade not fit, only option I can think of is Ryan Mason. If Ade is fit, think I would prefer the 442 option simply to give Ade game time without losing Defoe's goals (and he is generally scoring atm).

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

Agree its a toughie - my reasoning is Falque looked good as a winger for 2 games but no experience at Spurs (that I am aware of) as a no 10 or Adebayor (if fit has to be favourite) or if Ade not fit, only option I can think of is Ryan Mason. If Ade is fit, think I would prefer the 442 option simply to give Ade game time without losing Defoe's goals (and he is generally scoring atm).

I thought Falque drifted into the middle well at times, like for the aforementioned ball to Bale which was from a central position. I think he's got a bit about him so could be useful in that position.

We don't have to do anything stupid though - if he's not up to it we can keep playing Siggy there, or if we must Dempsey...

 

[Spursidol]

I thought Falque drifted into the middle well at times, like for the aforementioned ball to Bale which was from a central position. I think he's got a bit about him so could be useful in that position.

We don't have to do anything stupid though - if he's not up to it we can keep playing Siggy there, or if we must Dempsey...

Agreed Falque can drift into middle - not disputing his talent, just lack of goals ! Think the problem I am highlighting is that if we are discounting Sigurdssn and Dempsey as being out of form, we need to take a risk :

Falque - looking good but no great history as no 10, in particular lack of goals
Adebayor - fitness, but otherwise, please play him to get fit) or only other possibility I can think of,
Ryan Mason - minimal experience for Spurs first team but some at Championship level, but natural no 10

 

[Spurs_Q8]

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Lloris​

Walker - Cuelker - Vertonghen - Naughton​

Sandro - Dembele/Hudd​

Lennon - Sigurdsson - Bale​

Defoe​

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Friedel - Dawson - Smith - Huddlestone - Dempsey - Townsend - Adebayor​

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but i know AVB would pick Gallas, and would do keep Dawson more down in pecking order.. even if Vertonghen used as LB !!​

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[Teddy Klinsmann]

Great point about Falque. We are crying out for someone of the Hazzard/Mata ilk that can create and open up a defence with a clever pass. Falque over time looks like the sort of clever player who has this ability.

------------------------- Lloris ---------------------------
Walker --- Caulker ------ Vertonghen --- Naughton
------- Hudd/Carroll ------------- Sandro ------------
Lennon ---------------- Falque ------------------ Bale
--------------------Defoe/Adebayor ----------------------

Reasoning:

GK: Lloris needs to start. I thought he was great against Norwich. Really quick to make a decision, and the goals today were hard luck.

Defense: Vertonghen needs to kick back inside and begin rebuilding the relationship with Caulker. Walker and Naughton can get the job done on the outside.

Midfield: I personally want to see Carroll start but I know that won't happen. If Livermore really did go down with an injury, I'm curious if Carroll might get the start so AVB can use his beloved late switch midfield move with THudd. I think Carroll and Sandro could be a good pairing, but it'd be aggressive. I don't think Dembele plays so I've excluded him (I think if he's close to 100% AVB will throw him out there, though).

Attack: Lennon and Bale seem to be givens at this point (Unless either is scheduled to have another baby). Now, the big shakeup comes with Falque in the hole. I actually love the idea. Falque showed today (and against Maribor) that he's got poise on the ball, he's got an eye for the pass, and he's also got the restraint to know when the shot is there, and when it's time to look for the outlet. Siggy/Dempsey have been so bad there, I think he could really shine just by having a decent game. Not only would that be great for Tottenham and Falque, but it also might put Siggy/Dempsey on notice. I'd love to see Adebayor up front, but I really doubt he's given the start with how long he's been out in fear of him being terribad. But, I think Falque could really supply some creative touches to Ade/Defoe.

 

[kazzah9]

Got a bad feeling we'll see friedel starting...

 

[sweyid]

If Dembele and Ade are back I'd like to see us start with:

-----------------Lloris----------------
Walker-Caulker-Verts-Naughton
Dembele------Carroll------Sandro
Lennon-----Adebayor--------Bale

Subs: Falque, Defoe, Friedel, Smith, THudd, Gallas, Townsend.

It's Wigan at home, so I reckon we can afford to experiment a bit with the younger players (Falque, Carroll, Smith)

Without Dembele and Ade:


-----------------Lloris----------------
Walker-Caulker-Verts-Naughton
--------THudd-----Sandro---------
---------------Falque-----------------
Lennon--------Defoe----------Bale

Subs: Friedel, Smith, Livermore, Gallas, Townsend, Dempsey, Siggy.

 

[AJW]

Isn't Kone for Wigan pretty rapid? Could do with playing Caulker and Vertonghen at centre back to deal with that if so. Gallas may struggle otherwise. Bring in Naughton at left back

 

[Nocando]

Got a bad feeling we'll see friedel starting...

thats not our biggest concern. its not even our second or third.

we need a performance and our outfield players need to turn up and for the full 90