- Mar 18, 2005
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The club has to accept Responsibility for thier Failure this window
The Responsibility and Accountability point was raised in T R section and I think, as a debrief, after this window, the club does need to look at its transfer methods, its accountability, and how it can be improved.
It is now confirmed that during the transfer window we bid for, Rossi Llorente Aguero Forlan Carroll Suarez.(poss Fab as well, though cant find an actual quote) I highlight these, as i think it demonstrates that the club agrees with the supporters in the need to improve on our current strikers. Regardless of how we as an individual feels about "how much we should pay for player x" The Club was willing to spend approx 35mill on a young player (Rossi). This demonstrates we had the money, the intent, and the "willing to risk factor".
Not getting a striker, means they have failed in their objective. And it can only be looked at as a total failure. I am not into the "blame culture" But it is fair to expect that the Club, and i say the club, rather then individual/s names, as there are several pieces to the jigsaw that results in a player signed, (board, management team, scouts etc) TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR FAILURE. i do not mean to us fans, but within themselves.
We were "scrabbling around" using a "scatter gun" approach, are a couple of often repeated comments...another way of saying this, is re-active, should we not be pro-active?
Buying a player is not unlike "head hunting" something i have been on both sides of the coin of, when you head hunt, you "'court" them, you entice them, you "sell" the dream. Now whilst this cannot be done overtly, (prem rules) it is impossible to believe that players don't talk, agents don't talk, And as far as i am aware, clubs can only not approach the player, with out consent, they can however talk to said players agent, even if it is covertly.
IMO we need to stop being so re-active, as i our main approach, our main methodology should be pro-active (e.g Modric), with a structure in place to be re-active WHEN required (e.g VDV)
Our Scouting system need to be looked at, for example, as someone else pointed out earlier, If Carroll was H's No1 target, why did we not sign Carroll 1-2 seasons ago? The same could be said for most of the players we were bidding for as well, Im sure there are other as well.
For those of you that feel buying a players isn't "as easy as that" etc. I have to say you are wrong, if proper planning (the 6 P’s), direction, parameters and agreed remit are done. Players can be identified / scouted and covertly head hunted any time in the year. Clubs can be approached / sounded out any time of the year. Then come Window time the negotiation starts. The time frame does not need to be protracted, We can set it ourselves. We do that with a level of honesty to ourselves. Fine offer low to start. But have an agreed max, prior to starting. We do not need to buy 10 players any more, little juggling is required. Set ourselves a time limit, a few days, If we cannot get the player at the agreed max, move on. it is really that simple.
For a minute forget about how you feel about these two players. Carroll and Rossi.
I am pretty certain it has been confirmed that Carroll was H's no1 target. He was sold to Pool, for around 35 mil. Its has been confirmed we bid about the same amount for Rossi........So we were willing to pay 35mil for a young striker that you could not say is a "proven Marque" striker....same could be said for Carroll...So why did we not get to that in week one of transfer window, with Carroll? (Whilst it can not be proven, 27mil would have probably done it) If we felt Carroll wasn’t “worth’ that amount but Rossi was, Why Again wasn’t this reached in week 1?
The Club Demonstrated, by their actions, the need for a “top ‘striker” to be brought this window. They FAILED to achieve it. It is pointless laying blame, as equally it is important that the club don’t “blame” x player / club wanting to much etc” What they need to do is except the responsibility for the failure. Analysis where they went wrong, AND ensure it doesn’t happen again.
The Responsibility and Accountability point was raised in T R section and I think, as a debrief, after this window, the club does need to look at its transfer methods, its accountability, and how it can be improved.
It is now confirmed that during the transfer window we bid for, Rossi Llorente Aguero Forlan Carroll Suarez.(poss Fab as well, though cant find an actual quote) I highlight these, as i think it demonstrates that the club agrees with the supporters in the need to improve on our current strikers. Regardless of how we as an individual feels about "how much we should pay for player x" The Club was willing to spend approx 35mill on a young player (Rossi). This demonstrates we had the money, the intent, and the "willing to risk factor".
Not getting a striker, means they have failed in their objective. And it can only be looked at as a total failure. I am not into the "blame culture" But it is fair to expect that the Club, and i say the club, rather then individual/s names, as there are several pieces to the jigsaw that results in a player signed, (board, management team, scouts etc) TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR FAILURE. i do not mean to us fans, but within themselves.
We were "scrabbling around" using a "scatter gun" approach, are a couple of often repeated comments...another way of saying this, is re-active, should we not be pro-active?
Buying a player is not unlike "head hunting" something i have been on both sides of the coin of, when you head hunt, you "'court" them, you entice them, you "sell" the dream. Now whilst this cannot be done overtly, (prem rules) it is impossible to believe that players don't talk, agents don't talk, And as far as i am aware, clubs can only not approach the player, with out consent, they can however talk to said players agent, even if it is covertly.
IMO we need to stop being so re-active, as i our main approach, our main methodology should be pro-active (e.g Modric), with a structure in place to be re-active WHEN required (e.g VDV)
Our Scouting system need to be looked at, for example, as someone else pointed out earlier, If Carroll was H's No1 target, why did we not sign Carroll 1-2 seasons ago? The same could be said for most of the players we were bidding for as well, Im sure there are other as well.
For those of you that feel buying a players isn't "as easy as that" etc. I have to say you are wrong, if proper planning (the 6 P’s), direction, parameters and agreed remit are done. Players can be identified / scouted and covertly head hunted any time in the year. Clubs can be approached / sounded out any time of the year. Then come Window time the negotiation starts. The time frame does not need to be protracted, We can set it ourselves. We do that with a level of honesty to ourselves. Fine offer low to start. But have an agreed max, prior to starting. We do not need to buy 10 players any more, little juggling is required. Set ourselves a time limit, a few days, If we cannot get the player at the agreed max, move on. it is really that simple.
For a minute forget about how you feel about these two players. Carroll and Rossi.
I am pretty certain it has been confirmed that Carroll was H's no1 target. He was sold to Pool, for around 35 mil. Its has been confirmed we bid about the same amount for Rossi........So we were willing to pay 35mil for a young striker that you could not say is a "proven Marque" striker....same could be said for Carroll...So why did we not get to that in week one of transfer window, with Carroll? (Whilst it can not be proven, 27mil would have probably done it) If we felt Carroll wasn’t “worth’ that amount but Rossi was, Why Again wasn’t this reached in week 1?
The Club Demonstrated, by their actions, the need for a “top ‘striker” to be brought this window. They FAILED to achieve it. It is pointless laying blame, as equally it is important that the club don’t “blame” x player / club wanting to much etc” What they need to do is except the responsibility for the failure. Analysis where they went wrong, AND ensure it doesn’t happen again.