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[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Watching the replays of that collision - Why did Lewis not go around him, regardless of the lack of information? All he knew was Max slowed suddenly and that could happen for so many reasons, but he didn't immediately overtake him. Yes, to us, it's seconds, but his instinct should surely have been to take that as an opportunity, but you can see Hamilton brakes hard and doesn't even attempt to pass him... I wonder if it just didn't compute and he just wtf'sgoingon'd into the back of Max.

So weird a moment, I wouldn't be surprised if the brass end up just ticking off the Red Bull garage for being dicks, then walk away wondering none the wiser on what actually happened

yeah having seen it again, it’s not as black/white as I thought initially very strange. Can’t understand what Max was trying and assume that’s why Lewis hesitated.

really poor comms from the FIA

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Max has absolutely chosen the role of the heel this season - this last race is basically Wrestlemania or the fight at the end of Rocky IV.

Wait for the dark promo's from him, "If he dies, he dies..." in that accent, it's going to be gold.

 

[Yiddo100]

Presume they can look at verstappens brake data on that incident? If he did slam on breaks he’ll get a big penalty and if not then it was just an almighty cock up all round and they’ll probably do nothing

 

[TallBlokePH]

yeah having seen it again, it’s not as black/white as I thought initially very strange. Can’t understand what Max was trying and assume that’s why Lewis hesitated.

really poor comms from the FIA

Strange positioning from Max, odd that Lewis didn't just go round...bit of a mess on both accounts. Looking at the onboard Max was weaving as well, so not surprising Lewis was wondering what the hell was going on.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Presume they can look at verstappens brake data on that incident? If he did slam on breaks he’ll get a big penalty and if not then it was just an almighty cock up all round and they’ll probably do nothing

It will be nothing either way.

They won't want to put either team at a competitive disadvantage in a deciding race. If this was middle of the season, then, sure, it might be a grid penalty - but not now.

Worse case scenario - reprimand, and points on Max's license.

 

[TallBlokePH]

Presume they can look at verstappens brake data on that incident? If he did slam on breaks he’ll get a big penalty and if not then it was just an almighty cock up all round and they’ll probably do nothing

They'll have access to the telemetry for sure. Not sure it'll just be the braking, for me it's the positioning and movement that need to be considered as well.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Presume they can look at verstappens brake data on that incident? If he did slam on breaks he’ll get a big penalty and if not then it was just an almighty cock up all round and they’ll probably do nothing

The replay from the front is most telling on that - it really doesn't look like he's weighed on the anchors to me, but a downshift or something maybe as the speed really strips off of his car as he comes out of the bend. Going to be a bone for a while, they'll all grr and bark about it but ultimately, it makes no difference at all and, if anything, has actually given this final race even more heat - FIA won't be complaining too hard about that.

 

[Gb160]

Bullshit that next weeks GP clashes with Spurs Brighton.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Paul Di Resta has a very bizarre grudge with Lewis.

 

[TallBlokePH]

Bullshit that next weeks GP clashes with Spurs Brighton.

Damn, that's a pain. Somehow I'll have to avoid any news whatsoever till I can catch up on the race

 

[Yid-ol]

Strange positioning from Max, odd that Lewis didn't just go round...bit of a mess on both accounts. Looking at the onboard Max was weaving as well, so not surprising Lewis was wondering what the hell was going on.

If max was weaving before the crash (didn't see it when I watched the race or seen a great replay yet) then you can understand why lewis didn't have a clue with what was going on, and that he hadn't been told then max was giving his place back, then max should get a penalty. With it being so far after the race can they do a time penalty? Or is that now out of the picture?

All going to kick off no matter what the decision is anyway!

 

[Yid-ol]

Max summoned to the stewards.

 

[TallBlokePH]

If max was weaving before the crash (didn't see it when I watched the race or seen a great replay yet) then you can understand why lewis didn't have a clue with what was going on, and that he hadn't been told then max was giving his place back, then max should get a penalty. With it being so far after the race can they do a time penalty? Or is that now out of the picture?

All going to kick off no matter what the decision is anyway!

Wasn't massive weaving, just a bit of wandering when you look at Hamilton's onboard. Don't think it'll end up with any penalties though as it was a bit strange all round from them both. If anything does come of it I think it would have to be a penalty for the next race rather than a retrospective time addition, but can't say I'm 100% sure on that.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

That moment when you think your championship is slipping away:

 

[Yiddo100]

Paul Di Resta has a very bizarre grudge with Lewis.

This probably doesn’t help
https://www.eurosport.com/formula-1...e-bitter-legal-dispute_sto4131308/story.shtml

 

[Yid-ol]

Reading a few things on Twitter and remembering stuff that was said during the race.

Now max slowed down, lewis didn't know why. Now at a point in the race(think it was after the 2nd red flag crashed, they said drivers were worried they would turn a corner and be in an incident without knowing. So if max started slowing down and weaving a little, Hamilton will expect there to be an issue just ahead so backs off also?! Then max (not sure if he breaks him or just lifts off) slows down again in the middle of the track and heads right and lewis hits him from behind.

So maybe this is why lewis didn't go past him, for not knowing what was going on and not knowing if there was an incident just ahead?





Hamilton now called to stewards under same rule as posted before. If Hamilton is reprimanded for anything in this, that's his 3rd and a 10 place grid drop next race I believe

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Lewis absolutely laying into Max in an interview just now. Said Max is totally over the limit and that it’s quite clear that Max knows it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t finish the race.

 

[yankspurs]

Reading a few things on Twitter and remembering stuff that was said during the race.

Now max slowed down, lewis didn't know why. Now at a point in the race(think it was after the 2nd red flag crashed, they said drivers were worried they would turn a corner and be in an incident without knowing. So if max started slowing down and weaving a little, Hamilton will expect there to be an issue just ahead so backs off also?! Then max (not sure if he breaks him or just lifts off) slows down again in the middle of the track and heads right and lewis hits him from behind.

So maybe this is why lewis didn't go past him, for not knowing what was going on and not knowing if there was an incident just ahead?





Hamilton now called to stewards under same rule as posted before. If Hamilton is reprimanded for anything in this, that's his 3rd and a 10 place grid drop next race I believe

Hamilton being reprimanded for Max’s continuous dangerous driving would be absurd

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

I think it’s very well worth remembering that Hamilton is one more reprimand away from a 10 place grid penalty. He’s been summoned to the stewards for his involvement in the Max collision.

 

[$hoguN]

The be strategic message from Red Bull on the overtake could be an issue for Red Bull if the telemetry suggests anything other than Verstappen being super clean