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Kiedis

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Being a glass half full guy today, Poch really seems to see himself staying at the club for the forseeable future. He may well have to rejig a lot of our game due to Eriksens potential transfer in the summer, but looking at how much flexibility and numerous tactical variations we've shown this season, I wouldn't put it past him to pull it off without us skipping a beat. Even if I'll miss that deadly Eriksen-Alli connection.
 

shelfboy68

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But I don’t see the issue with it being finances, unless you expect we should just pay 2-4 players to sit around doing nothing. A lot of the panic going on is because all of a sudden mid month we all of a sudden had massive injury problems because Kane and Alli made worse with Son.

The trouble is we need/needed to get rid of players in the summer, to be honest the players we wanted rid are either totally crocked, struggling, old or didn’t want to to such massive wage hits themselves. The Eriksen and Toby situation is something we will have to cope with. To be honest it won’t be easy to replace either, but Foyth will be the future
There was no panic from myself as i expected what we are going to get before the injuries which is nothing.
As for eriksen and Toby leaving I fully understand why they would want to go for obvious reasons to be successful and bigger wages so I don't blame them it's a relatively short career and they want to win and earn as much as possible.
I reckon it maybe a difficult summer perhaps with a few moving on if the right price can be secured and a couple of cheap alternative deals to come in.
 

SpartanSpur

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Love Poch but I do have an issue about this chair/sofa metaphor he used.

Spurs have got to where they are under ENIC by converting chairs into some mighty fine sofas (Carrick, Berba, Bale, Modric, Eriksen, Dele, etc...), so why have we seemed to stop buying chairs when its clear ready made sofas are out of our price range?

Yes we've been stung with a couple of dodgy french african stools (pun intended) and a faulty dutch chair, but does that mean we should give up on chairs forever?

Currently what we are doing is standing outside DFS after-hours looking in, then going home and sitting on the floor.
 

shelfboy68

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Love Poch but I do have an issue about this chair/sofa metaphor he used.

Spurs have got to where they are under ENIC by converting chairs into some mighty fine sofas (Carrick, Berba, Bale, Modric, Eriksen, Dele, etc...), so why have we seemed to stop buying chairs when its clear ready made sofas are out of our price range?

Yes we've been stung with a couple of dodgy french african stools (pun intended) and a faulty dutch chair, but does that mean we should give up on chairs forever?

Currently what we are doing is standing outside DFS after-hours looking in, then going home and sitting on the floor.
Yes he is asking for a luxury sofa but instead gets a wooden bar stool.
 

Bobbins

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Shades of Wenger a few seasons ago when it was claimed that there was plenty of money available for transfers, but either Arsenal or Wenger failed to spend. That ended badly. The trouble is supporters are never told the truth, so despite all the speculation, no one outside of Levy and Poch knows whether there is money available or not, nor if there is, why hasn't some been spent. A bit of transparency would not go amiss, especially considering that a club is nothing without its supporters.

Difference is Arsenal not spending is a complete myth, they have spent massively in recent years, in both transfer fees and insane wages.

PAE and Laca didn’t turn up for free, they smashed £100m in 6 months on them.
 

SpartanSpur

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Difference is Arsenal not spending is a complete myth, they have spent massively in recent years, in both transfer fees and insane wages.

PAE and Laca didn’t turn up for free, they smashed £100m in 6 months on them.

Yep, their insane reluctance to spend any money on their defence seems to be confused with tight purse strings.
 

Bobbins

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If you can't understand why he wants to give Skipp the chance to gain experience and minutes, rather than buying someone who is in no way guaranteed to be a starter, then you really haven't been listening to Poch at all for 4.5 years.

It’s nothing to do with that, it’s to do with the foreign player limit and Poch wanting Foyth to take Dembele’s place in the CL squad. He hated having to leave him out before.

We won’t sign a foreign player now until we ship some others out first.
 

Trix

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Looking at who we've gone for and who we have refused I'm starting to think Poch isn't interested in signing established players at all. It looks very much to me that he'd much rather sign the top end promising youngsters. Unfortunately they are proving more difficult to get than the more senior options.
 

danielneeds

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It’s nothing to do with that, it’s to do with the foreign player limit and Poch wanting Foyth to take Dembele’s place in the CL squad. He hated having to leave him out before.

We won’t sign a foreign player now until we ship some others out first.
Nah, I think if we could get someone who'd improve the 1st team, like Rabiot, we'd shift Vorm out of the CL squad. The point is, that signing bodies to just fill out the squad and stop Skipp's development is not what Poch is about.
 

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With Sanches and Foyth I don't see the panic to replace Toby as the replacements are already in place.
I see the problem replacing Erricsen and getting someone to play when Kane is not playing.
If we wait until the next three games are over as they are games that pre the injury crises we were expected to win.
This will tell us if Poch and Levy made the right decision to keep their powder dry.
 

SpartanSpur

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Looking at who we've gone for and who we have refused I'm starting to think Poch isn't interested in signing established players at all. It looks very much to me that he'd much rather sign the top end promising youngsters. Unfortunately they are proving more difficult to get than the more senior options.

Yep, unfortunately after Coutinho/Dembele/etc... the big boys have realised they need to skip out the middle man and buy these kids at source, making this plan extremely difficult.

Funnily enough you could argue that the odd established player would actually help our squad, especially if they bring a winning mentality.
 

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Looking at who we've gone for and who we have refused I'm starting to think Poch isn't interested in signing established players at all. It looks very much to me that he'd much rather sign the top end promising youngsters. Unfortunately they are proving more difficult to get than the more senior options.

I don't mind this, Poch is taking a risk but if we can clear house and make top4 still then it sets us up for the summer, only negative I see is if it's a determining factor in the minds of fellow players deciding whether to renew with us or not but there's no tangible evidence to decide one way or another whether that plays a part.
 
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Problem with patience is many like the idea of it but have no idea how to exercise it.
Many posters are calling for this need to be patient, but what precisely are we all expected to wait so patiently for? The move to the new stadium? And this mythical time when the increased match-day revenue sees ENIC completely and fundamentally change their entire modus operandi and start throwing large chunks of cash at the calibre of footballer that could actually help us win titles? Do people genuinely believe that's going to happen? Does anyone really have faith that our current owners with their unshakably justified reputation for parsimony intend to rip up their transfer window playbook and suddenly start investing huge chunks of our increased match day revenue in improving the squad? I'd so love for that to be the case, but that's not how ENIC operate, and I've seen no evidence to suggests that's going to change anytime soon (other than the standard PR spin from the usual sources). Revenue has increased exponentially in the last year to nearly £400 million and yet still not even a sniff of a signing. But yeah, let's be patient. Let's wait .....as this top group of brilliantly coached players gets old, sold, dismantled, and risk losing arguably the best manager we've had in 50 years. So I'll ask again, what exactly is this future, idyllic, "promised land" we all have to be patient for? What does that look like? The NWHL and Levy stood outside with his chequebook open? Pipe dream mate.
 

dudu

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I have absolutely zero faith in this club replacing the likes of Alderweireld and Eriksen correctly if/when it comes to it.

We haven't had too much of an issue signing centre backs in recent times.

Eriksen is an almost impossible player to replace like for like too - Who would you replace him with?
 

ebzrascal

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If reports are true that Poch has blocked a loan for Tielemans then I am starting to lose faith in him as a manager and someone who will bring us success. His recent comments have been baffling as fans we have been extremely patient and asking us to wait another 3/5 years is totally unacceptable. The guy does not talk like a winner and at this moment he is not lifting fans like me. It feels like we have hit a ceiling and that's depressing.
 

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Looking at who we've gone for and who we have refused I'm starting to think Poch isn't interested in signing established players at all. It looks very much to me that he'd much rather sign the top end promising youngsters. Unfortunately they are proving more difficult to get than the more senior options.


That's all well and good, but all we seem to get are reasons for why we can't/don't/won't sign anyone. It is getting very weary. Two windows no signings for a club in our position is really quite unacceptable. At the end of the day, we are failing to sign players, whatever the reason, it's not good enough. If what we keep doing isn't working, we have to change strategy, but this should have been implemented after the debacle in the summer, yet here we are, another window almost gone and still doing the same thing.

If people at the club in charge of recruitment think we can beat the likes of Barcelona, City and PSG to the top young talent, frankly they shouldn't be in a job.

There is always an excuse. De Jong, bigger clubs want him. Werner, too expensive. De Ligt, bigger clubs want him. It seems that the players we target, are wanted by bigger clubs, and the players that are good enough and gettable, are too expensive. If you don't laugh you'll cry.
 
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