The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[JCRD]

It is clear this chapter after the final is closed

It is like starting the next chapter - he wants to be for this next chapter and to deliver this next chapter but he will only do that if he has assurances he will be backed throughout... no point in starting a chapter if you are unable to finish it or reach its end. I have no doubt he wants to make us one of the elite clubs in the world but he can only do that by given the funds.

It is clearly a message to Levy. Poch doesnt want to leave but perhaps he is being 'forced' to move because we arent matching his ambitions? I dont know but that may well be the case and I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest

 

[George94]

It is clear this chapter after the final is closed

It is like starting the next chapter - he wants to be for this next chapter and to deliver this next chapter but he will only do that if he has assurances he will be backed throughout... no point in starting a chapter if you are unable to finish it or reach its end. I have no doubt he wants to make us one of the elite clubs in the world but he can only do that by given the funds.

It is clearly a message to Levy. Poch doesnt want to leave but perhaps he is being 'forced' to move because we arent matching his ambitions? I dont know but that may well be the case and I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest

He can't keep performing miracles - how he's taken us to a Champions League final within 5 years of inheriting that shambles of a Spurs side, spending sod all, is absolutely mind blowing.

 

[SpartanSpur]

And that's different perspectives for you. I read that article and it just comes across extremely positive, as a man who wants to build a project and wants to aim for the stars.

It puts pressure on Levy, but that's needed.

I'm with you on this. Even mentions another 5-10 years in there and his love for the club. Of course he needs to know where we go from here. This summer is a clear crossroads. Stadium done, CL (almost) secured again, rebuild required.

He needs something to sink his teeth into, and that's this rebuild and actually starting to compete in the transfer market with some of the others (he even admits we'll have to be a bit more clever, so he's not expecting City/Utd money).

Yes people are worried after the last two windows but as much as some fans would like to believe, that isn't going to always be the case! Already talk in Spain of Andre Gomes today along with some building noise on Ndombele. The club is already taking action IMO.

The stadium is here now, it was built to make us competitive, so unless we start acting like big boys now what was the point?

Our turnover going forward should be much closer to Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool than ever before. Give Poch similar tools to what they have and see what happens.* I'm pretty sure that's all he wants, and boy does the man deserve it.

*spoiler: he's unlikely to stay trophyless for long...

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Can't blame him.

Whatever happens 1 June, happens. But I'd be amiss not to point out last season, Liverpool were overrun in midfield and their goalkeeper was an absolute disaster in the final. They went straight out that summer and rectified it, six months after doing the same at CB.

That's what Poch expects, whether we're ch******s of Eur**e or not.

 

[spuradik]

Those quotes from Poch are absolutely brilliant. If Levy cooperates and heeds Poch's call, then I'm really excited about what the future holds. It could be a period of serious dominance both in the league and Europe.

The thing that stuck out to me the most was his bit on honesty and transparency. It is very clear that what Poch is calling for is not just spending money, but that Levy needs to change the way he operates. No more prolonged transfers, no deadline day deals, no more 'trying' and then failing by losing out to another club. The lack of communication during the stadium delays is one such example of a lack of transparency.

Poch wants to be here, he wants to build a project, he wants to be our Ferguson. But for all that to happen, it needs to be made tenable. Daniel, the ball's in your court.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

Now I understand. I'm very very happy with what he has said there.

 

[curlacious]

It is clear this chapter after the final is closed

It is like starting the next chapter - he wants to be for this next chapter and to deliver this next chapter but he will only do that if he has assurances he will be backed throughout... no point in starting a chapter if you are unable to finish it or reach its end. I have no doubt he wants to make us one of the elite clubs in the world but he can only do that by given the funds.

It is clearly a message to Levy. Poch doesnt want to leave but perhaps he is being 'forced' to move because we arent matching his ambitions? I dont know but that may well be the case and I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest

Yes, 5 years ago he was 'sold' the 5-year vision for the club: new stadium, Champions League football. Now he needs to be sold a new more exciting vision, and given a coherent strategy of how we're going to reach that new vision, before committing. This is all fine. What troubles me is why Levy hasn't done this already and why Poch feels he needs to go public with it.

 

[theslowcentury]

I think I've posted about it here before, but on the Guardian Football weekly podcast at the end of last season there was a good chat about the future of the team and one of the journalists made the point that it wouldn't be this squad that got us a league title but rather what comes out of it - changes to players, reinvestment, the stadium. It's absolutely the end of the five year chapter - things can't be the same after reaching the Champions League final. It's terrifying in a great way - but whatever happens, the club will continue to move forwards. I really hope with MP and DL in lockstep because Poch totally deserves the investment and support for what he's done. But things will absolutely change - we're through the looking glass now.

 

[George94]

I'm not trying to start and anti/pro Levy debate here, but where are some of you getting the optimism from that Levy will change his ways and back the 'second phase' of Pochettino's Tottenham?

 

[JCRD]

He can't keep performing miracles - how he's taken us to a Champions League final within 5 years of inheriting that shambles of a Spurs side, spending sod all, is absolutely mind blowing.

Yes, 5 years ago he was 'sold' the 5-year vision for the club: new stadium, Champions League football. Now he needs to be sold a new more exciting vision, and given a coherent strategy of how we're going to reach that new vision, before committing. This is all fine. What troubles me is why Levy hasn't done this already and why Poch feels he needs to go public with it.

If Poch leaves it would say a lot more about where Levys vision is for this club and what we should expect going forward... a strategy would have been decided and agreed a long time ago and not in June.

 

[theslowcentury]

I'm not trying to start and anti/pro Levy debate here, but where are some of you getting the optimism from that Levy will change his ways and back the 'second phase' of Pochettino's Tottenham?

There was a quote in the video they made for the last game at the Lane that stuck with me. Levy did his piece about being a custodian of the club and how the aim is to pass it on in better condition that he received it. I've got to have some hope he meant it - even if he didn't he's lucked his way this far. Things have got to to change and this can't be some mad Redknapp-esque one off. Hopefully the infrastructure will inspire something! I'm excited and nervous and all that. Who knows? We can only hope!

 

[spuradik]

Yes, 5 years ago he was 'sold' the 5-year vision for the club: new stadium, Champions League football. Now he needs to be sold a new more exciting vision, and given a coherent strategy of how we're going to reach that new vision, before committing. This is all fine. What troubles me is why Levy hasn't done this already and why Poch feels he needs to go public with it.

This is the part that scares me because it all but confirms ENIC's intentions that they just wanted to build the club to just compete for top 4 and the occasional mickey mouse cup ala Arsenal. This is Poch's way of calling them out by saying if you want to be the next Arsenal, then I'm out; if you want to be the next Barcelona or Real Madrid, them I'm in.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Obviously the Sun have done a full Shane Warne spin job on the quotes for tomorrow. Poch threatens to quit.

I don't read it that way at all, but that's not as fun a story

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Poch is making perfect sense and I love it

 

[curlacious]

I've been trying to get my head around the latest Poch quotes...

The next few months will tell us - finally - how ambitious this club is or isn't. It will tell us about Levy and Joe Lewis and ENIC and why they're even involved in this football club in the first place. I don't think they expected Poch to be as successful as he has been, and in doing so he has forced them to articulate their long term business/football model sooner and in more detail than they would like. He's making it uncomfortable for them by demanding to see this model. What happens next will see Poch stay or go - and tell us as supporters everything we need to know about our owners' true objectives and mindset and what kind of club we'll be in future.

 

[rossdapep]

Yes, 5 years ago he was 'sold' the 5-year vision for the club: new stadium, Champions League football. Now he needs to be sold a new more exciting vision, and given a coherent strategy of how we're going to reach that new vision, before committing. This is all fine. What troubles me is why Levy hasn't done this already and why Poch feels he needs to go public with it.

In Levy's defence I think he's been so consumed with everything to do with the stadium that he may have lost focus with the 'next stage'.

But these comments are superb. We all want to hear that the club has a defined strategy and true goals. Imagine if you're a player and Spurs target you.....

"We are going to win everything in the coming years"

Sounds a lot better than....

"We aim to be in the Champions League"

 

[rossdapep]

These comments could also be directed at Joe Lewis...

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

As I said before - I want Poch to stay, but in his latest quotes, I think he is right to question Levy and the club - in terms of their ambitions. Poch does not want to be here operating on a shoestring budget, with luxury expectations. That is a recipe for failure, I can't blame him for wanting to move on from that situation.

I know we have had some ITK about Poch being the one not wanting to spend - but just reading between the lines here - I think Poch does not want to spend on mediocrity, just for the sake of spending. I think that was his message to Levy in terms of not "strengthening" with squad fillers.


Poch seems to be clearly telling Levy to fish or cut bait. If Levy wants a league contender, then he needs to be buying and paying for league champion calibre players. That does not mean Man City money, but it does mean, going after the right players - and maybe overpaying a little to get them in the club. And, I think Poch is fine with fewer, but better players.

 

[ajspurs]

Yep, Poch is bang on there and it's great to read what he says. He very well knows that if we're to continue as we are, as in being fairly financially tight and just wanting to make the top 4 and such that especially with him reaching a CL final, there's not much more he can do that will ultimately feel worth it.
We have everything else in place and he just wants the tools to allow us to reach the level that any team would possibly want.

Off topic too, but where are the transfer rumours being discussed at the moment?!

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

These comments could also be directed at Joe Lewis...

Not likely - Levy is the de facto owner. Its Joe's money, but he is not spending it to stroke his own ego. Its a financial investment for him.