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The optimistic case for life after Harry Kane

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-Afri-Coy-

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I want a front three similar to what Liverpool had with peak Firmino, Mane (best playa in the wuuurld) and Salah. We already have Kulu and Richy, so give me a replacement for Son with all that juicy Kane money.

It’s a pipe dream and will never happen, but Leao is incredible and would fit perfectly on the left. He would cost about the Same as we could expect to get for Kane.
 

mattstev2000

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Think it will be fine, I agree with the OP, think some of our potential has been stifled a bit playing to accommodate Kane and not calling out his shortcomings.

Sell him for an ok fee and get a decent young attacker to support Richy as first choice and I think we'll probably be ok.

Think it's time generally for some of the players we've leaned on over the last few years to be moved on and replaced with younger, hungrier alternatives.
 

GutBucket

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City won the league without a striker and won't win the league with one of the best ones. We recovered (after a while) from the sales of Modric and Bale, it's not that big of a deal, but we need to find the right coach and support him proprerly. Someone like Tuchel does better without a proper striker and won the CL with Werner starting in attack, someone like Klopp doesn't need a striker to score a lot of goals but to press and involve others etc. Losing Kane will obviously hurt, especially with Son becoming a League One player, but it's normal to lose players once they hit 30.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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It would be sad to see him go and wish him success. Equally I am happy with moving on as something needs to change on the pitch too

Perhaps you are a better person than I am, but the moment he leaves, I will thank him for everything he gave to Spurs but personally hope he wins nothing :grumpy:
 
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Wadec

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I do think we will obviously miss Kanes numbers, they are incredible. I do also think his overall impact has regressed, he can't press and doesn't dominate teams physically. His output is amazing but I think Richarlison will add things Kane doesn't even if he won't score as much.

Agree with the sentiment of having a brilliant front 3 moving forward a la Liverpool. Richarlison, Kulusevski, Son are three parts. We need another 2 imo, I would love Mitoma from Brighton and would have liked Toney before the betting scandal. Just so we did have one bigger option if needed.

In all honesty though, I do not watch enough European football to talk about players outside of the EPL/CL (unless we get linked to a player, I make an effort to watch them then). Be really interested to know who the likes of @Ghost Hardware & @rossdapep and other members who watch regular football elsewhere would like.
 

Gilzeanking

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Yep, I concur with the positives re Kane departure. Interesting to see how his next team deal with the absence of pressing from him seeing as every team is a gegen presser.

Maybe he'll pull his pressing socks up in an environment where his is no longer no 1 in the heirarchy . Its part of the prob imo as he is extremely comfortable with us. Hopefully we get 80 mill at least and Paratici can reinvest in someone happy to put in the effort.
 

PLTuck

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Like others I think we'll be fine. We need energy and hunger in the front line. As good as Kane is, it feels like he's lost some of that. It annoys the bejesus out of me when I see him walking around for the entire 1st half, often barely breaking into a jog. I thought all these players were the fittest they've ever been? Well go back and watch Kane press like an animal 4 or 5 years ago.

Having a striker that actually shows up and turns it on in finals would be nice too. Again, as good as he is, he is as responsible as any player when it comes to lack of silverware.
 

mpickard2087

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I'll always prefer the 2014-17 version of him personally in any case, but yeah I've said for a while now that we're at a point where I think it's possible getting away from the overreliance on him and overwhelming dominance Kane has might be in everyone's best interests.

He'd go with you full well knowing he might have a few years and many goals left somewhere else, but you focus on what the advantages might be for Tottenham.

- not everyone looking for him with every pass.
- someone more mobile who can go in behind and run channels.
- more aggressive, more intensity, who can press.
- more variety to our centre forward play, not just him making the same (basic) movement into the pocket to spray a pass.
- therefore not having to play on the counter, and in this certain way we have the last 3-4 years.

Also I can understand fans who go "I don't want a project", but it's no good either having the mindset of short-termism of needing to do something to "make the most of Kane and get him a trophy". Making the right decisions is a balancing act, and if we need to freshen up and try and build for the next 3/4 years ahead you do that for the benefit of the whole team and not shoehorning any plan around a star name.

Son is another problem right now. I said in the summer that I'd have been very tempted to cash in if any premium offer was about, given he's 30 and his game is built mainly on running, again you know he's maybe got a few years elsewhere to star but I think you could find many younger players who largely bring what he does and you don't want to miss out on the fee and/or him declining. Well six months later, and....... ?
 

felmani26

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I want a front three similar to what Liverpool had with peak Firmino, Mane (best playa in the wuuurld) and Salah. We already have Kulu and Richy, so give me a replacement for Son with all that juicy Kane money.

It’s a pipe dream and will never happen, but Leao is incredible and would fit perfectly on the left. He would cost about the Same as we could expect to get for Kane.
Or even something along the lines of;

Bentancur Sarr/Bissouma

Kulusevski Maddison Son/Leao/Another

Richarlison​
 

Archibald-CPH

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I guess so much depends on tactics etc. Richy becoming number 1 makes a lot of sense and personally I’d love to try and get Lautaro (even tho I know Inter are a bitch to deal with but I think he will be looking to move next summer as they probably won’t get CL). I think those two could play off each other well. Then I’d bring in a young forward unless Scarlett is ready? I haven’t really been following his loan spell.
Like us
 

spurs9

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The issue will be that he counts as Clun based Home Grown, so if we want to replace him with a non-HG player, we need to get rid of another non-HG from the squad, as we are currently at capacity.
 

PLTuck

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The issue will be that he counts as Clun based Home Grown, so if we want to replace him with a non-HG player, we need to get rid of another non-HG from the squad, as we are currently at capacity.

Well we have plenty of those that need moving on just in defence, never mind the rest of the pitch ?
 

GutBucket

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The issue will be that he counts as Clun based Home Grown, so if we want to replace him with a non-HG player, we need to get rid of another non-HG from the squad, as we are currently at capacity.
We can promote one of Devine,White, Scarlett, Parrott etc, or get Edwards back.
 

Flobadob

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Or even something along the lines of;

Bentancur Sarr/Bissouma

Kulusevski Maddison Son/Leao/Another

Richarlison​
This looks nice but we’d need a RB (this Emerson dream is just that, a dream, he’d wouldn’t be good enough there either) LB and to replace a load of CB’s who are suited to a back 3 (Dier, Lenglet, Davies, Sanchez, Tanganga). The only one that could play a back 4 is Romero and you’d need someone quick next to him to sweep in behind when he pushes out. Udogie is young and could maybe be converted to LB but he’s the only one other than Romero that has any promise in a 4 back formation unfortunately. That front 6 would be quality but we’d need 2 signings for it and 3 for the back line plus a new goalkeeper. In our current formation next season we’ll need to have a GK, RWB and 2 CB’s.. it’s 4 signings for a good starting 11 as opposed to potentially 6 and with the way we run as a club it’s obvious which option is the more realistic
 

cjbyid

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We'll miss him at first but we'll be fine.

Look, it's going to happen at some stage and we do have to plan for life after him. The thing I'm afraid off most is we won't invest the money well, as usual.

More than happy to build around Richy IF we spend well (BIG IF)
 

TOLBINY

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Wold be ironic (and a miracle) if he left and then we win a trophy - imagine all the articles claiming that he held us back for so many years!
 

Hawkey77

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I agree with the broad sentiment here, and would be a little excited by what the ‘new’ spurs style of play would be. There’s certainly no chance we can just directly replace him. However my only concern is peoples expectation that Richy is our new starting no.9. Since he’s joined I’ve been really disappointed by him…apart from winding up the opposition his quality has been lacking. Even in the World Cup I thought he was ‘ok’, and a couple of nice goals hid a fairly average performance overall. Maybe I’m missing something but I currently am of the mindset that I’m fine with Kane going but Richy is only one part of the solution…we would have to invest in a top level striker in my opinion, as well as holding on to Deki and Richy.
 

Monkey boy

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I see alot of you are now at the acceptance stage. I think im still in the bargaining stage whereby i keep telling myself that if Levy just backs Conte enough that it might convince him to stay. I do however suspect that i shall be moving on to the depression stage soon enough before the inevitable acceptance that he has to (or rather that he will) leave us to fulfil his desire for those shiny things that we hear alot about.
 
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