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Locotoro

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All valid points though

When Conor misbehaves it's all a bit of fun...

This fight was always personal. It was always going to end badly.

As for those saying it was a boring fight etc. I'm guessing all Conor fans too. It was a tactical fight from Khabib. He is at his best on the floor. Why would he choose a stand up fight??? You want a stand up fight, go watch boxing...
Problem was Conor put up such a poor performance I doubt Khabib felt satiated and when the insults came in from Dillon he had a lot left in the tank to go after him too
 

hellava_tough

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Six months ago conner and 20 goons attacked kabib on a bus and injured other fighters, and IMO overstepped the mark with his Dagastani are rats comments and other shit talk, Danis talking trash outside the ring and he then got smashed, got no problems with that at all. The only thing i have a problem with here really is the guys going after connor in the ring, especially the guy that hit him from behind, that should be them done from ever getting a visa again at the very least.

All this talk of him getting stripped, banned for ages is just bollocks when you flip it around, Conner was able to fight after numerous instances where it should have been banned/stripped, not just the bus one where he injured other fighters who were unable to fight, in the instance of someone like Ray Borg who is at the lower end of the pay scale and whose son is sick and he is struggling to pay medical bills it makes his actions even worse.

In reality here, couple of people got a slap and the scuffle looked worse then it was, many on here would know you would get worse saturday nights at Eros in enfield.

Agree with a lot of that.

However, a number of key people (fighters and their teams, the UFC officials, etc) have a responsibility for the safety of the crowd. They have to check their behaviour so a full scale riot doesn't break out, injuring innocent spectators who have paid money to watch a few fights, not be in the middle of one!

Khabib's actions on the night were irresponsible.

PS I also don't particularly like the way Conor McGregor conducts himself and I think the UFC should do more to promote respect, as opposed to arrogant bravado.
 

Mullers

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McGregor got what he deserved.

You can say whatever you want about the way it was delivered but if you deliberately attack people physically and verbally outside of the Octagon, don't then be surprised when they want to beat the crap out of you.

Beaten up in the match. Beaten up after it. Where's your big mouth now Conor?
Absolutely agree, Connor wanted to make Khabib angry, he got his wish. Unfortunately this gives Dana an excuse to strip Khabib and put the title on Conor.
 

Mullers

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The commentary team are all McGregor nut huggers any strike he throws he gets praised for.
 

ajspurs

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I think the biggest shame is with Khabib in that he's made such an incredible positive into such a massive negative. I wouldn't even scrutinise him too much for what he did as he had to put up with a lot of shit from Connor and took it all on the chin and rightly so did all the talking with his hands. He shit-talked McGregor throughout and initially straight after the fight, that's fine, they don't have to hug it out, hell, even stick your middle finger in his face after your hand is raised, but despite what Connor had done you should try and be the bigger man and limit your reactions. You can't jump the cage and start attacking team members, just like you can't smash a bus window and endanger people like McGregor did but two wrongs don't make a right. The worst people were the three people of Khabib's entourage who jumped the cage and attacked Connor.

A shame for Khabib really, he just got the biggest win of his career and could have woken up feeling like a million dollars with the world praising him but instead he's gonna have to deal with a shit load of criticism and as of now will be mostly remembered for putting a stain on the sport.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Khabib was so focused going into this - look at their faces in them first couple of minutes, then tieing him up like he did you could see Connor running out of ideas and getting frustrated. Impeccable setup from the Russian, he had the better game plan in the first round and his patience paid off early in round 2 - he was 100% in control of this fight from the off. McGregor looked totally outclassed after that.

Even when he went toe to toe in the third nothing Connjor threw at him phased him at all. He traded with him a few times and i dunno if McGregor was tired or if those monster Russian cheekbones were deflecting, he just shrugged off shots that would've put others on their arse.

I know a few people don't appreciate all the grappling and lockups, and I get that a good knockout is exciting, but I preferred the old days of the Shamrocks/Lion's Den and the Gracies so i've got no problems with a submission after a show like that.
 

ajspurs

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I don't mind the wrestling and grappling, it's a part of the sport but i thought Herb Dean could have encouraged at least more work to be needed from the ground in that first round in particular.
 

Mullers

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I think the biggest shame is with Khabib in that he's made such an incredible positive into such a massive negative. I wouldn't even scrutinise him too much for what he did as he had to put up with a lot of shit from Connor and took it all on the chin and rightly so did all the talking with his hands. He shit-talked McGregor throughout and initially straight after the fight, that's fine, they don't have to hug it out, hell, even stick your middle finger in his face after your hand is raised, but despite what Connor had done you should try and be the bigger man and limit your reactions. You can't jump the cage and start attacking team members, just like you can't smash a bus window and endanger people like McGregor did but two wrongs don't make a right. The worst people were the three people of Khabib's entourage who jumped the cage and attacked Connor.

A shame for Khabib really, he just got the biggest win of his career and could have woken up feeling like a million dollars with the world praising him but instead he's gonna have to deal with a shit load of criticism and as of now will be mostly remembered for putting a stain on the sport.

Conor threw the first punch.
 

Rocksuperstar

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I don't mind the wrestling and grappling, it's a part of the sport but i thought Herb Dean could have encouraged at least more work to be needed from the ground in that first round in particular.

Something I didn't understand - when McGregor was running out of ideas, why didn't he use the cage to lever around? Sure, it's illegal and Herb would've had to have intervened, but it would break up the relentlessness of the smothering if nothing else. That half a second's advantage it would've given him could've flipped that around. He had his legs tangled up and his arms trapped but he could've used that cage at least three or four times and didn't.

Conditioning to not cheat? Seems odd considering how he conducts business outside of the ring.
 

Mullers

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I don't mind the wrestling and grappling, it's a part of the sport but i thought Herb Dean could have encouraged at least more work to be needed from the ground in that first round in particular.
He missed the illegal knee by Conor and the grabbing on to the cage.
 

ajspurs

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Something I didn't understand - when McGregor was running out of ideas, why didn't he use the cage to lever around? Sure, it's illegal and Herb would've had to have intervened, but it would break up the relentlessness of the smothering if nothing else. That half a second's advantage it would've given him could've flipped that around. He had his legs tangled up and his arms trapped but he could've used that cage at least three or four times and didn't.

Conditioning to not cheat? Seems odd considering how he conducts business outside of the ring.

Yeah I'm not sure, I just got the impression that once he was on the bottom like that he didn't want to be too busy, as if he'd just resorted to damage limitation.

He missed the illegal knee by Conor and the grabbing on to the cage.

Well it was weird because he warned McGregor about the toes in the cage too but he kept on doing it straight after. Anyway, I'm not trying to take any anti Khabib stance, regardless of what he missed from Conor, I still think he should have kept them more busy on the ground.
 

kr1978

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If you’re this drunk then it’s generally not a great idea to start a fight and spit at people

 

ajspurs

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If you’re this drunk then it’s generally not a great idea to start a fight and spit at people



That's the thing with fighting events, idiots get a few beers down them and think they're fighters all of a sudden.
 

Mullers

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If you’re this drunk then it’s generally not a great idea to start a fight and spit at people


The UFC encouraged this to happen, they used the bus attack to promote this fight and never punished Conor for what he did. It's hardly surprising that fans think it's ok to fight.
 

kr1978

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That's the thing with fighting events, idiots get a few beers down them and think they're fighters all of a sudden.

The boxing has got ridiculous with it in recent years, you used to see it a bit but now it seems anytime you go to live boxing there is huge punch up.

Makes me less inclined to go tbh
 

kr1978

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The UFC encouraged this to happen, they used the bus attack to promote this fight and never punished Conor for what he did. It's hardly surprising that fans think it's ok to fight.

Totally agree, Dana used the bus footage in the promo videos ffs and then acts surprised when this happens!
 

Mullers

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I want to see Covington get smashed next, he's a much bigger **** than Connor, at least Connor comes up with his own material.
Thrash talking ****s that can't back up their mouth with ability get what they deserve.
 

ajspurs

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The boxing has got ridiculous with it in recent years, you used to see it a bit but now it seems anytime you go to live boxing there is huge punch up.

Makes me less inclined to go tbh

Yeah most definitely the boxing, I haven't seen much of it at UFC events to be fair but you get always get those typical idiots at the boxing.
 
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