'They stay with us': Antonio Conte says Gil definitely won't be leaving in January now

[mawspurs]

Antonio Conte says that Bryan Gil will definitely stay at Tottenham beyond the end of the January transfer window. There had been talk of Gil going back to La Liga on loan when the winter window opened and for much of the season he has not looked to be in Conte’s plans. But he has started the past two games and set up a goal in the 4-0 thumping of Crystal Palace on Wednesday evening.

As per the Athletic, Conte now does not want to lose the £22 million man this month, and the same goes for Oliver Skipp and Pape Matar Sarr.

Conte said: “We exploited the period of the World Cup to work with these young players to improve themselves under the tactical aspect and physical aspect.

“Now they stay with us in the squad. I don’t want to send these young players on loan because the league is very difficult.

“We have to play Champions League, we have to play FA Cup. I think these young players can stay here to help us face these three competitions.”

Source: The Boot Room

 

[Japhet]

Thank goodness for the World Cup break because without it and Conte's coaching during it, players like Gil and Sarr would still be shit apparently.

 

[thecook]

Sounds like the plan is send Spence out on loan then.

 

[EastUpperDK82]

Thank goodness for the World Cup break because without it and Conte's coaching during it, players like Gil and Sarr would still be shit apparently.

It also shows how important Conte's time with the players as a group is. It's been a very long time since we've had a complete squad to pick from. He thrives from personal coaching and the direct work with the players.

But good for Gil, Sarr and co.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

It also shows how important Conte's time with the players as a group is. It's been a very long time since we've had a complete squad to pick from. He thrives from personal coaching and the direct work with the players.

But good for Gil, Sarr and co.

But Sarr was at the World Cup!

 

[EastUpperDK82]

But Sarr was at the World Cup!

He was yes ... but it's good that Conte sees improvement. Sarr was very bright at Palace.

 

[PLTuck]

Great news re: Gil. Deserves to start against Portsmouth too.

Really happy to see that Antonio is starting to trust some of our youngsters.

 

[Japhet]

But Sarr was at the World Cup!

Good point. So he must have somehow improved all on his own. Incredible. Either that or he's been pretty damn good all along.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

Good point. So he must have somehow improved all on his own. Incredible. Either that or he's been pretty damn good all along.

That’s what I was thinking.

 

[whitesocks]

Sounds like the plan is send Spence out on loan then.

Good spot.
With Conte you have to listen to what he doesn't say and who he doesn't mention.

It is hard to think this young man has caused such great offence to conte. More like he has been caught up in a battle of wills between conte and paratici.
As Dof, paratici thinks conte should coach and play the players he brings into the club. Conte thinks Paratici should provide him the players he himself wants and needs right now. Try to force a player on conte, and he'll never get a game.

The dof should be making the big calls but in england the manager has the much higher status. In some ways nuno was the ideal manager for this system - low status and expendable, he does what he's told.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Thank goodness for the World Cup break because without it and Conte's coaching during it, players like Gil and Sarr would still be shit apparently.

yes, as always, his timing is perfect, the players are now ready, and he hasn't had his arm twisted at all by injuries and fixture congestion!

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

But Sarr was at the World Cup!

He was back relatively early, and played in 2 of the 3 friendlies (Peterborough U21s and Nice)

But, in the bigger picture, I would guess Conte had been overlooking him a bit in training - given his trust in Bentancur and Hojbjerg, followed by his need to get Bissouma up to speed and Skipp back to fitness.

I am hopeful that Sarr continues to get chances in FA Cup, and then as a sub in PL and CL matches.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Good spot.
With Conte you have to listen to what he doesn't say and who he doesn't mention.

It is hard to think this young man has caused such great offence to conte. More like he has been caught up in a battle of wills between conte and paratici.
As Dof, paratici thinks conte should coach and play the players he brings into the club. Conte thinks Paratici should provide him the players he himself wants and needs right now. Try to force a player on conte, and he'll never get a game.

The dof should be making the big calls but in england the manager has the much higher status. In some ways nuno was the ideal manager for this system - low status and expendable, he does what he's told.

I think you are reading way too much into this.

Is Conte stubborn? Sure. But I don't see any indication that he is playing games with Spence as any kind of message to Paratici or Levy. Spence simply is not ready in Conte's mind. Its possible Conte is wrong about that - but I don't think this is a game to him - he wants to win.

 

[Trix]

Sounds like the plan is send Spence out on loan then.

Always has been.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

People keep overcomplicating the squad management under Conte. He will not introduce players until they can follow his precise instructions and methods. There is little more to do with it than that.

It's possible to play well, but still not do what Conte instructs (Spence, perhaps?). You don't play. Some new players slot right in (Bentancur). In the squad straight away. Some take some months (Bissouma, gradually getting to grips only now). They gradually start to play. Some are still raw and need general development, physically (Gil) or tactically (Sarr, judging by the contrast in recent displays, compared to the bits I saw in clips last year).

But it's not as if Gil has suddenly bulked up, nor that Sarr has had a tactical epiphany, since the start of the World Cup. The key, as stated plainly here by Conte, is that he needed time to work with them and get them to follow his system. It's always the same issue with him. Until they do what they're fucking told as part of his team, they don't play.

I think it was @Tucker [it was @PLTuck]who said this week that fans treat individual players as Gods or Donkeys. For Conte, they are all pieces in a team. If they don't mesh into his team, they don't play.

As for the fan obsession with Spence, I see his non-selection attributed to an an endless succession of elaborate reasons, that latest being that he's a token in a feud (!) between Conte and Paratici. WALOB. Occam's Razor fairly screams that the reason he hasn't been playing is because he doesn't follow instructions, just like all the other non-players.

So they'll pack him off on loan so he does play, until Conte can get a whole summer to sort him out.

The manager just says the same thing, over and over, probably 20 times now in public statements, and everyone still cooks up fanciful theories. He says he needs to work with players until they understand and implement his system, or they won't play. How does he make it clearer than that?

 

[Tucker]

People keep overcomplicating the squad management under Conte. He will not introduce players until they can follow his precise instructions and methods. There is little more to do with it than that.

It's possible to play well, but still not do what Conte instructs (Spence, perhaps?). You don't play. Some new players slot right in (Bentancur). In the squad straight away. Some take some months (Bissouma, gradually getting to grips only now). They gradually start to play. Some are still raw and need general development, physically (Gil) or tactically (Sarr, judging by the contrast in recent displays, compared to the bits I saw in clips last year).

But it's not as if Gil has suddenly bulked up, nor that Sarr has had a tactical epiphany, since the start of the World Cup. The key, as stated plainly here by Conte, is that he needed time to work with them and get them to follow his system. It's always the same issue with him. Until they do what they're fucking told as part of his team, they don't play.

I think it was @Tucker who said this week that fans treat individual players as Gods or Donkeys. For Conte, they are all pieces in a team. If they don't mesh into his team, they don't play.

As for the fan obsession with Spence, I see it attributed to an an endless succession of elaborate reasons, that latest being that he's a token in a feud (!) between Conte and Paratici. WALOB. Occam's Razor fairly screams that the reason he hasn't been playing is because he doesn't follow instructions, just like all the other non-players.

So they'll pack him off on loan so he does play, until Conte can get a whole summer to sort him out.

The manager just says the same thing, over and over, probably 20 times now in public statements, and everyone still cooks up fanciful theories, He says he needs to work with players until they understand and implement his system, or they won't play., How does he make it clearer than that?

Can’t take credit for that one. I like it though and whoever said it is right.

 

[14/04/91]

And all Conte is saying is that he had the opportunity to work specifically with these lads during the World Cup.
Prior to that, he'd have been working predominantly with the 14-15 senior first teamers - that's only natural.
The break has given him the chance to give his attention to the youngsters and work on some individual improvement but mainly their understanding of what is needed of them.
He's not patting himself on the back @Japhet

 

[Japhet]

And all Conte is saying is that he had the opportunity to work specifically with these lads during the World Cup.
Prior to that, he'd have been working predominantly with the 14-15 senior first teamers - that's only natural.
The break has given him the chance to give his attention to the youngsters and work on some individual improvement but mainly their understanding of what is needed of them.
He's not patting himself on the back @Japhet

Fair enough.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

People keep overcomplicating the squad management under Conte. He will not introduce players until they can follow his precise instructions and methods. There is little more to do with it than that.

It's possible to play well, but still not do what Conte instructs (Spence, perhaps?). You don't play. Some new players slot right in (Bentancur). In the squad straight away. Some take some months (Bissouma, gradually getting to grips only now). They gradually start to play. Some are still raw and need general development, physically (Gil) or tactically (Sarr, judging by the contrast in recent displays, compared to the bits I saw in clips last year).

But it's not as if Gil has suddenly bulked up, nor that Sarr has had a tactical epiphany, since the start of the World Cup. The key, as stated plainly here by Conte, is that he needed time to work with them and get them to follow his system. It's always the same issue with him. Until they do what they're fucking told as part of his team, they don't play.

I think it was @Tucker who said this week that fans treat individual players as Gods or Donkeys. For Conte, they are all pieces in a team. If they don't mesh into his team, they don't play.

As for the fan obsession with Spence, I see his non-selection attributed to an an endless succession of elaborate reasons, that latest being that he's a token in a feud (!) between Conte and Paratici. WALOB. Occam's Razor fairly screams that the reason he hasn't been playing is because he doesn't follow instructions, just like all the other non-players.

So they'll pack him off on loan so he does play, until Conte can get a whole summer to sort him out.

The manager just says the same thing, over and over, probably 20 times now in public statements, and everyone still cooks up fanciful theories, He says he needs to work with players until they understand and implement his system, or they won't play. How does he make it clearer than that?

The counter argument to this is is that maybe even Conte is beginning to feel that his way isn't working. Maybe he tried Sarr because he had run out of ideas, and it worked OK. I can't believe that Sarr magically got with the programme at exactly the moment that fixture congestion and injuries etc. were putting real pressure on Conte, nor can I believe that Conte's head is so far up his arse that he can't see that things aren't working as he had expected. Now he needs to take a punt on Spence, on the basis that Royal doing exactly as he is told, might not be as useful as Spence doing what comes naturally. We'll see.