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Toby signs new contract

adamsky

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Massive bonus. Maybe slightly past his peak but next year could have been disastrous trying to change whole back four. This gives us some continuity and I imagine he is a big part of dressing room
 

whitesocks

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It is hard not to conclude that MP was the reason he did not sign before.
And the reason he did not leave in the summer was it was common knowledge that MP was very likely to be leaving shortly.

It might not be personal - MP thinks in terms of 5 year projects and JM thinks in 3 year projects. It is reasonable to think Alderweireld will be playing to a good level in 3 years. 5 years is pushing it.
 

JimmyG2

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Well done to all concerned.
He is and will be
an important mentor to Sanchez.
and the other young defenders
Foyth, Tanganga, Sess.
 

Jenko

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It is hard not to conclude that MP was the reason he did not sign before.
And the reason he did not leave in the summer was it was common knowledge that MP was very likely to be leaving shortly.

It might not be personal - MP thinks in terms of 5 year projects and JM thinks in 3 year projects. It is reasonable to think Alderweireld will be playing to a good level in 3 years. 5 years is pushing it.
No conclusions can be drawn at all. It's all pure speculation.
 

davidmatzdorf

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It's better than watching them fannying about with the ball, losing it, conceding a goal, and looking like complete mugs.
...which only actually happened once or twice.

There's a good deal of exaggeration about this. We would pass around the back every few minutes, which would give fans palpitations and created the impression of a problem, but it almost never led to a chance and we conceded a goal as a result no more than once or twice.
 

yiddopaul

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Long balls from the back for the next 3 years
It's not like we're a long ball team now, is it. We've had a few more long balls recently, but it's not like that's our only outlet. Most of our goals have come from build up play. Having Toby's passes are an option if we need it. It's not like we're just banging them up front and hope someone gets on the end of it. If he sees someone running into space which could lead to a goal, why wouldn't we take that option?
 

whitelightwhiteheat

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...which only actually happened once or twice.

There's a good deal of exaggeration about this. We would pass around the back every few minutes, which would give fans palpitations and created the impression of a problem, but it almost never led to a chance and we conceded a goal as a result no more than once or twice.

How many times did we have near escapes though? Many, many times. How many times did we do it, passing about back there, resulting in putting Lloris in the shit which resulted in Lloris lobbing it out for a throw in over the heads of either Rose or Trippier? Millions of times.
 

davidmatzdorf

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How many times did we have near escapes though? Many, many times. How many times did we do it, passing about back there, resulting in putting Lloris in the shit which resulted in Lloris lobbing it out for a throw in over the heads of either Rose or Trippier? Millions of times.
The "near-escapes" are moments that worried the fans. They did not constitute reasons to change the strategy. The only ones that counted against that were the goals conceded there weren't enough of them to reckon with.

I prefer the more varied approach we are taking now, but passing it about in defence and then distributing it progressively through midfield is a key part of modern football tactics.
 

Spence167

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Great news. His form has maybe dipped a bit over the last number of months but now that his contract situation has been put to bed I hope that he can rediscover the performance levels that I have always believed has made Toby our most important player. The rock of our team!!

More important than Kane, Alli and Son?
 

Locotoro

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The "near-escapes" are moments that worried the fans. They did not constitute reasons to change the strategy. The only ones that counted against that were the goals conceded there weren't enough of them to reckon with.

I prefer the more varied approach we are taking now, but passing it about in defence and then distributing it progressively through midfield is a key part of modern football tactics.
The reason many fans had palpitations is because whilst we were passing from the back there were too many occasions when we were not in control of the play, we were passing through panic and not with any idea of where the pass was going and we were getting found out.
I'm in favour of passing from the back but where there's a reason to not for the sake of it
 

ostrov

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The "near-escapes" are moments that worried the fans. They did not constitute reasons to change the strategy. The only ones that counted against that were the goals conceded there weren't enough of them to reckon with.

I prefer the more varied approach we are taking now, but passing it about in defence and then distributing it progressively through midfield is a key part of modern football tactics.
We do a more varied approach than just long balls I think.
 

mil1lion

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I think this shows that he's confident of winning things under Jose. I'm sure that was his main reason to not sign sooner. With all respect to Poch, not winning anything under him must lead to doubts. That's why these older players are running their contracts down because they want to win trophies. Jose gives us a better chance of that and I expect some more new contracts to follow.

He seems to be getting back to his old self. He has Alli back on his radar but his long diagonal balls are a great outlet too. We certainly mix things up more with the long ball but I prefer those long balls than tapping it around the box. We'll play through midfield a lot more with Ndombele or/and Winks in midfield than we have lately with Dier and Sissoko though.
 
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