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Tom Huddlestone parting dig at AVB

hodsgod

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I feel sorry for Hudd, he has some great skills, and played one great games for us, for that I will always respect him. However I feel he didnt progress as a player and the team has moved forward. He is too good for Hull, he will be wasted there.
 

seanwhite1961

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Jenas and Bentley were given away at a loss after no one wanted them - largely due to the huge contracts. Not the best comparison. They are older and on the way down.

Livermore is not the same bracket as those two. Transfermarkt says £1.5m is his market value, but that is undervalued. When it comes time to sell, Spurs would ask for upwards of £4m and a newly promoted or lower half Prem team would pay it.

Let's wait and see one offering to pay it.

Hudd's a gifted player, years of experience, England caps, approaching his peak and apparently only Sunderland and Hull really interested, at £5m.

You can rate values as high as you like, but as with Jenas and Bentley, no buyers = zero.
 

dontcallme

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Reading what Hudd has said and it´s hard to believe he has taken a dig at anyone.

He has played for England and should be confident in his ability. He wanted to play more football and didn´t get it. He doesn´t blame AVB for that, just that he wants a chance to show what he can do and he can now do that at Hull.

Good luck to him.
 

Harry_Snatch

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Personally glad the 'English experiment' is over, talent over nationality. Look at Bale when the talent is there everyone can see it.

Whilst I agree, Germany has shown the value of giving opportunity to academy products. Barca x10. There has to be a pathway or you will never attract any young talent to the academy.
 

DEFchenkOE

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He's just moved from the mighty Spurs to Hull Tigers, of course he's gonna be gutted and a little bitter. Wouldn't anyone?

Anyway still, good luck tom hope it works out.
 

JimmyG2

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Not sure we're losing our identity as such. We're just looking to move on. Hudd and similarly Azza etc over the next few windows will be gorn. These players will forever be remembered by myself and many others. They were part of a group that brought the first real credibility to us as a club for my generation. From the age of 10 until nearly my mid-twenties, we were nothing but an also ran. It was a great time for me and people of my vintage. Sure we weren't pulling up trees but we played some lovely football and apart from games against the established top 4 I had the very new and odd, but exciting, feeling of optimism before each match instead of the usual and familiar feelings of dread and doubt. I'll always think of them fondly.

We've moved on. The time is right. Hudd simply didn't have the qualities to be a starter for us anymore and was only even barely lingering on the fringes of the squad for the last couple of yrs given the injuries and new signings. He's a good player and can be a very good centrepiece for a team in this league. Not at a top 4-6 level though, imo, and we seem to be looking slightly higher still.

Good luck to him but this is the right thing to do. For everyone. No need to question it or feel regret.
Does raise the question whether we are moving on too quickly.
Man City have shown that 12/15 quality newly signed players
do not necessarily gel and make a team.
I was satisfied on the whole with the gradual progress we were making over the last decade.
Under AVB we seem to have decided to jettison this scheme
and go for expensive ready mades that may or may not settle or be overated. (Chadli?)
Even promising talent like Siggy and Holtby last years exciting additions may be redundant pretty soon.
It also pushes out the Caulkers, Livermores and probably the Carrolls and Lennons
that we have developed and have 'Spurs' in their DNA.
It's going to be exciting but it may not work quickly enough
for most Spurs fans and DL.
 

Coyboy

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I can see where he is coming from. Whether he was told why he wasn’t playing or not only he, AVB or other players can say; but as far as British talent is concerned surely if they are good enough they will flourish. He mentions Bale but he is a now superstar so our signing him for £7 million or whatever it was, was a masterstroke (thanks to Comolli in part by the way).

Similarly if Carroll, Mason or others coming through are good enough and develop they will shine. Lennon, Walker, Naughton, Dawson and Townsend are still here. Dawson and Lennon have been excellent consistently for 7 or so years and I would hope they will still at least be part of the squad if not in and around the first team in the next two or three years.

 

Real_madyidd

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He is correct, we did buy young Brits, and now we are buying internationals. He was also left out of the squad when better players were fit. I don't get the problem.

I am sure we would buy young Brits again, if the fees were not stupid and the potential was there.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Hudd didn't get a chance last season because he is simply not good enough for a team aspiring to be a regular in the top four. I thank him for his service but he has probably found his level at the mighty Hull City Tigers.
 

Misfit

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Does raise the question whether we are moving on too quickly.
Man City have shown that 12/15 quality newly signed players
do not necessarily gel and make a team.
I was satisfied on the whole with the gradual progress we were making over the last decade.
Under AVB we seem to have decided to jettison this scheme
and go for expensive ready mades that may or may not settle or be overated. (Chadli?)
Even promising talent like Siggy and Holtby last years exciting additions may be redundant pretty soon.
It also pushes out the Caulkers, Livermores and probably the Carrolls and Lennons
that we have developed and have 'Spurs' in their DNA.
It's going to be exciting but it may not work quickly enough
for most Spurs fans and DL.
Well, out of necessity to begin with (piss poor squad barring Ledley) but due to managerial changes after that, we seemed to have half of the squad leaving and new players coming in every summer from '04-'08. Not going to disagree with you that so much change isn't difficult to deal with and causes problems of it's own.

We underwent massive changes last summer and we could see the disjointed effect that had on our play. Many other factors last summer of course but wholesale changes do mean a bedding in period. It's just something we'll have to deal with really.

In that sense though, injuries permitting, the disruption to our strongest XI shouldn't be that bad this summer. If Bale stays that is. The back 5 options unchanged, barring a change at LB. The midfield pretty settled with 2 very strong additions to the middle 3 rotation. Sandro and Dembele will still be staples though.

And we finally have a striker worth the name.

Otherwise, mostly squad depth is greatly improved and was very necessary.
 

Wardy

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Initially coming into the thread I thought 'that's harsh', but then saw the link from the Guardian. Toilet newspaper
 

kaz Hirai

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agree with him, feels like we're losing our identity.

by losing our identity i assume you mean we are actually an Elite team now signing the likes of Paulinho, Lloris and Soldando and seriously looking at the likes of Lamela
Instead of trying to sign Dawson and Andy ried from Nottingham Forrest or Etherington, Routledge. Majority of English players and the England team are more or less average and not good enough for the standard of where we are as a club right now
 

3Dnata

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I've just seen a shit link on newsnow which I won't post which has upgraded Huddlestone to "slamming AVB" not from the quotes he isn't ,press guys.
Good luck and thanks THudd.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Not sure where people are getting the idea that our squad is going through some radical change which it will struggle to adapt to. We've brought in Chadli at the expense of a player who under performed in Dempsey. We've brought in Paulinho and Capoue, players who can realistically challenge Sandro and Dembele for first team spots, at the expense of Huddlestone and Livermore, players who are not as good as any of the aforementioned (and, by the way, I quite like Huddlestone on the whole, though agree with his sale). Caulker was never going to get many chances ahead of Vertonghen, Kaboul and Dawson, all good defenders and finished articles. Parker proved last season that he's no longer quite up to it. Soldado has come in to play the role which everyone and their dog could see was weak.

We still have all our key players of recent seasons. Lloris, Vertonghen, Kaboul, Dawson, Walker, Ekotto, Sandro, Dembele, Lennon, Bale and even Defoe and Adebayor. I really don't see why people are getting their knickers in a twist, there's been no huge upheaval, just the addition of quality where requires, and at the expense of inferior players. The only major change will be if we need to replace Bale, and hopefully that won't be the case.

As for sacrificing English talent, when we signed Chadli for less than Blackpool want for Ince, Paulinho for less than Liverpool payed for Henderson and Soldado for the same price Villa paid for Bent, that explains all. Hopefully our youth system starts churning out top class English talent because the days of bargains like Lennon, Dawson, Carrick and Robinson are well and truly over.
 

DanNolan

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what a terrible article! British philosophy? what young british talent did Harry buy?!
 

sloth

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Sloth's dig at fans of parting Hudd:

How come Hudd has ended up at Hull and not a better side?
 
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