Top-four finish like a title win for Spurs, says Conte

[wrd]

The headline makes it sound like a insult, like these twats are so unambitious that top4 is like a title win

Thing is I wouldnt put it past Conte to say it either positively or negatively.

 

[adamsky]

The manager needs to be the most ‘bought in’ to the club or process. We might laugh at Arteta and his naffness sometimes but he is fully invested in Arsenal and doesn’t feel bigger than the club. We have been stepping on eggshells for whole of Conte’s tenure in case we upset him. At some point this was always gonna have an affect on the players.

 

[Styopa]

Sitting 4th with a seven point lead over a team that has 3 games in hand. Everyone's looking at Liverpool when Newcastle is the bigger risk.

As I mentioned in the Conte thread, Newcastle finished twenty-two points behind us last season. For them to potentially bridge that gap is huge and far more impressive than us finishing fourth. I don't think they'll quite do it, but to put it into perspective, it's like going from where we were in the late 90s/early 00s to a full-on Champions League places challenge. And they've barely even started spending yet.

 

[Marty]

Sitting 4th with a seven point lead over a team that has 3 games in hand. Everyone's looking at Liverpool when Newcastle is the bigger risk.

Nah. Wenger won the FA Cup multiple times during that period.

Newcastle don't win enough games (record 10-11-3, their strength has been not losing) and have been on the slide for two months now (last win Jan 15, their only PL win this year. 5 games winless)

I don't think they'll click the same way they did in the autumn twice in one season.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

I find it insulting to be honest.

he isn’t doing us a favour, can’t wait til he leaves now.

miracle to get top 4?

 

[Smokinhotspur]

I don't mind him staying til the end of the season but I don't want him to get another contract. The football is terrible to watch most of the time and he'll want huge money invested in this same flawed system. I want a different coach with more flexibility and less melodrama who uses the squad at his disposal. We've been incredibly lucky that Skipp has slotted in so seamlessly with Bentancur out, but Conte would never have used him if not in a crisis. Same with Sarr. Have had enough of Conte and his stubbornness.

100% with you on that one. A few months ago before the world cup he kept saying the likes of Sarr are club signings that are not yet ready to play first team football but when his hand was completely forced by the injuries and Sarr slotted in admirably he changed his tune saying we 100% trust him, so dishonourable. I only wonder what contribution Spence could have made if he was given a chance all those weeks when Royal looked totally lost and bereft of confidence on the right side but Conte's stubborness would not allow him to give the 'club signing' a chance.

Keep him on till the end of the season, hopefully get top 4 and then it has to be adios. Could not tolerate another season of this selfish egomaniac and the dull shitshow that his system serves up every week.

 

[wrd]

100% with you on that one. A few months ago before the world cup he kept saying the likes of Sarr are club signings that are not yet ready to play first team football but when his hand was completely forced by the injuries and Sarr slotted in admirably he changed his tune saying we 100% him, so dishonourable. I only wonder what contribution Spence could have made if he was given a chance all those weeks when Royal looked totally lost and bereft of confidence on the right side but no Conte's stubborness would not allow him to give the 'club signing' a chance.

Keep him on till the end of the season, hopefully get top 4 and then it has to be adios. Could not tolerate another season of this selfish egomaniac and the dull shitshow that his system serves up every week.

Yeah Skipp and Sarr performances very much undermined the idea that Conte's choices were correct based on the fact he watches them in training. Clearly some players are not getting a fair crack.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

Yeah Skipp and Sarr performances very much undermined the idea that Conte's choices were correct based on the fact he watches them in training. Clearly some players are not getting a fair crack.

I think he is the sort of manager that will cut off his nose to spite his own face. So if the club does not sign the exact player he wants in a certain position then he will make his point by leaving them to rot on the sidelines. It is clear we wanted Trossard in this window but once Arsenal's Mudryk move fell through and they switched targets, we were always going to miss out on Trossard given the season they are having and we then had to pivot to snatch Danjuma from Everton. Yes he may not have been first choice but sometimes that is how the cards fall and you just have to play the hand you are dealt which is apparently beyond him.

 

[wrd]

I think he is the sort of manager that will cut off his nose to spite his own face. So if the club does not sign the exact player he wants in a certain position then he will make his point by leaving them to rot on the sidelines. It is clear we wanted Trossard in this window but once Arsenal's Mudryk move fell through and they switched targets, we were always going to miss out on Trossard given the season they are having and we then had to pivot to snatch Danjuma from Everton. Yes he may not have been first choice but sometimes that is how the cards fall and you just have to play the hand you are dealt which is apparently beyond him.

Yeah I agree, I realised this when Emerson kept playing that I was not appreciating that managers have to play these sort of games to get what they want over the long term, so not playing Spence has now forced the Porro signing as an example but I'm not a fan of it to be honest. I think it's detrimental to the long term development and potential of players and I think that you're far more likely to be backed from producing excellent performances and results than you are from showing you're lacking the tools for the job. I appreciate it's a fine balance and it does also depend on the chairmen you're dealing with but I'd vastly prefer managers accept the squad they've got and make the most of it but refuse alternative signings so we don't make people like Danjuma suffer the consequences of a power struggle.

 

[parj]

Yeah Skipp and Sarr performances very much undermined the idea that Conte's choices were correct based on the fact he watches them in training. Clearly some players are not getting a fair crack.

Conte isnt going to give young players a chance unless he has to. Conte only trusts ready made players cos it's less coaching. Sarr won't get anymore starts unless Skipp or PEH get injured.

 

[wrd]

Conte isnt going to give young players a chance unless he has to. Conte only trusts ready made players cos it's less coaching. Sarr won't get anymore starts unless Skipp or PEH get injured.

Crazy considering what Sarr is capable of.

 

[Japhet]

Conte isnt going to give young players a chance unless he has to. Conte only trusts ready made players cos it's less coaching. Sarr won't get anymore starts unless Skipp or PEH get injured.

Would certainly seem that way. Pretty poor imo since there have been countless opportunities to give players some minutes, but he seems to like giving them 1 minute 30 seconds to try to impress at the end of a match. Piss poor squad management.

 

[shao]

Does it come with a trophy?

 

[MR_BEN]

Maybe he's just toeing the company line. Top 4 is like a title win for our club because that is seemingly the objective set for our managers.

I think it’s more - top 4 is the bare minimum expectation. Without it - we will go backwards as we wouldn’t have the finances to compete.

In some ways he is right - but, he’s worded it very very badly.

Most of us are realistic enough to not expect us to win the league, or even a cup every year. What we do want though - is for us to compete for them. To give it our all. And there’s no way he can claim we gave done that.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Not sure how I feel about this narrative from AC. We have been in CL consistently over the past few seasons and we’re hardly coming from Mid table obscurity. Of course realism is important but I do think we are better than he seems to think gives us credit for.

Qualifying once in the past three years isn't "consistently over the past few seasons" at all.

It's also worth noting that the one time we have qualified in the past three years, Conte was our manager.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

I think he is the sort of manager that will cut off his nose to spite his own face. So if the club does not sign the exact player he wants in a certain position then he will make his point by leaving them to rot on the sidelines. It is clear we wanted Trossard in this window but once Arsenal's Mudryk move fell through and they switched targets, we were always going to miss out on Trossard given the season they are having and we then had to pivot to snatch Danjuma from Everton. Yes he may not have been first choice but sometimes that is how the cards fall and you just have to play the hand you are dealt which is apparently beyond him.

Literally only just seen the story from Trossard's agent about how we dallied and delayed on the deal which allowed Arsenal to steal in. Typical! Same happened with Grealish years ago when villa were skint and we had a chance to wrap up a deal before the rich owner came in and bailed them out. Important context for why Conte would be feeling extremely frustrated as Trossard was there for the taking so can certainly understand that perspective but still no reason to completely overlook Danjuma

 

[Jamturk]

Could someone point out to him next time that the team finishing immediately behind us last year are doing a pretty good job at going from outside the Top-4 to leading the table?
Tired of this bullshit now……

To be fair if you read what he said he is talking about the kind of form we need to hit from now until the end of the season to achieve the top 4 considering the other teams competing for it now.

He in no way stated what the headline implies.

 

[Dennism]

Sick of him talking up every other team and talking us down. He needs to go at the end of the season. No point in doing anything before then unless someone exceptional becomes available.

 

[Dennism]

Seriously worrying when we are being linked with Marco Silva. A disaster at Everton whose current Fulham team were made to look like a pub team by Arsenal.

 

[PLTuck]

If we get top 4 this season, we will have been in the CL 6 of the last 8 seasons, including reaching the final of course..

Not quite the miracle / trophy win Antonio is painting it as.