Tottenham have become a boring, tedious and irrelevant club

[Spurger King]

Correct its a number of issues

It is. Not just about money and success.

For as long as I can remember we've been one of England's great entertainers. Capable of sparkling performances one week, and calamitous collapses the next. For the most part we'd try to play exciting football, and usually seemed to have at least one magical player on the field capable of dazzling the fans.

Now our style of play, though more consistent, is incredibly boring. It's not as if there's any pay off from that style of play either.

We don't play like a Spurs team (which I acknowledge is something that a lot of fans might welcome), and if the rumoured stripe on the home kit is true, we won't look like a Spurs team either next season.

It's not difficult to see why some are losing their enthusiasm for the club.

 

[talkshowhost86]

It is. Not just about money and success.

For as long as I can remember we've been one of England's great entertainers. Capable of sparkling performances one week, and calamitous collapses the next. For the most part we'd try to play exciting football, and usually seemed to have at least one magical player on the field capable of dazzling the fans.

Now our style of play, though more consistent, is incredibly boring. It's not as if there's any pay off from that style of play either.

We don't play like a Spurs team (which I acknowledge is something that a lot of fans might welcome), and if the rumoured stripe on the home kit is true, we won't look like a Spurs team either next season.

It's not difficult to see why some are losing their enthusiasm for the club.

But that has only been the case for two seasons surely?

In the first season under AVB we had Bale and that season certainly wasn't boring.

Nobody thinks we've been exciting in the last couple of years, but isn't a bit too soon in the greater scheme of things to be throwing in the towel?

 

[muppetman]

Cheers for posting this. There really isn't enough negativity about the place and I feel this has really helped!

 

[Spurger King]

But that has only been the case for two seasons surely?

In the first season under AVB we had Bale and that season certainly wasn't boring.

Nobody thinks we've been exciting in the last couple of years, but isn't a bit too soon in the greater scheme of things to be throwing in the towel?

I don't think anyone is throwing in the towel (I also don't think that we played exciting football under AVB at all, and Bale's exploits didn't change that).

It's like being hooked on a TV show. You've stuck with it through ups and downs, but now there's been several episodes in a row that have been a joyless experience. You still watched them, and you'll still watch them in the future, but you no longer actually look forward to it, and every new episode just serves to justify your apathy.

I suspect that this is the lull to be expected in the build-up to the new stadium. It certainly won't be boring to see the team walking out into our new home for the first time. However, everything is soooo flat right now. Yes it could change again, but at this moment in time things are a long way from being great, and the countless false dawns have been replaced by a total eclipse.

I don't think there's much point in people having a pop at others for declaring their indifference. We're still watching, we're still talking and thinking about the club. In terms of this forum in particular, it's the ones you don't notice any more that indicate how bland Spurs - and football in general - now is. Where's @Misfit gone? He was quite vocal about falling out of love with the game. Countless others have stopped posting altogether. Friends of mine that used to be obsessed with Spurs now sometimes don't even know when or who we're playing next. Beyond Spurs, I have a close friend who has been a lifelong Liverpool supporter since the 80s, but who stopped following them three years ago (even through their crack at the title last season). He goes to Bristol City games instead because he sees the Prem as little more than a case of measuring bank balances.

So I don't think it's just about Spurs. It's a bigger problem with how Sky, UEFA, and FIFA have pushed the game towards an elite few, which actively tries to make every team in every division irrelevant if they're not in the top four. It's created an increased indifference which can be found at clubs across the land.

Except at Chelsea and Oil Money of course. Those two soulless clubs will continue to purchase trophies for years to come.

 

[jambreck]

So I don't think it's just about Spurs. It's a bigger problem with how Sky, UEFA, and FIFA have pushed the game towards an elite few, which actively tries to make every team in every division irrelevant if they're not in the top four. It's created an increased indifference which can be found at clubs across the land.

Except at Chelsea and Oil Money of course. Those two soulless clubs will continue to purchase trophies for years to come.

Agreed with this.

And if Dillon had made that the essence of his article - rather than the trolling nonsense about Spurs - it would have been worthwhile and, well.............relevant.

 

[haydsmith]

I think the point he's trying to make is Tottenham was and should still be one of the great clubs in Europe.The club was once about daring, ambition, magic. Football has exploded in every way in recent years and Tottenham should be among the group of elite clubs at the forefront. Instead it feels like we're constantly treading water in a desperate attempt to cling to the coat tails of clubs that we should be on a level footing with. No one is demanding a team that always wins, but I think Tottenham is one of those great clubs which has a duty to try.

 

[shelfboy68]

It is. Not just about money and success.

For as long as I can remember we've been one of England's great entertainers. Capable of sparkling performances one week, and calamitous collapses the next. For the most part we'd try to play exciting football, and usually seemed to have at least one magical player on the field capable of dazzling the fans.

Now our style of play, though more consistent, is incredibly boring. It's not as if there's any pay off from that style of play either.

We don't play like a Spurs team (which I acknowledge is something that a lot of fans might welcome), and if the rumoured stripe on the home kit is true, we won't look like a Spurs team either next season.

It's not difficult to see why some are losing their enthusiasm for the club.

Spot on mate i havent enjoyed much football this year apart from 3/4 games as its been pedestrian and boring with a wanky defence that he cant improve one bit, last saturday playing 4 center backs wtf i thought he was trying to get the game abandoned.
As for consistantcy i think that started with jol as before then we were very much win one lose two type of team so that has improved at least.
I know that some on here today didnt like me agreeing with the journos comments but when the truth is there i have to be honest, although in the case of @talkshowhost86 he doesnt like my posting style and never has so made it clear he wanted me to Fuck off and support someone else, but that i will never do as the club is in my heart which is why i give them a hard time because i take my football seriously.
Least we dont have too long to see the back of this season and roll on to next which will probably be much of the same so not expecting much coys.

 

[jambreck]

I think the point he's trying to make is Tottenham was and should still be one of the great clubs in Europe.The club was once about daring, ambition, magic. Football has exploded in every way in recent years and Tottenham should be among the group of elite clubs at the forefront. Instead it feels like we're constantly treading water in a desperate attempt to cling to the coat tails of clubs that we should be on a level footing with. No one is demanding a team that always wins, but I think Tottenham is one of those great clubs which has a duty to try.

Nope.

Football exploded twenty years ago - firstly, with the advent of the Premier League and then, a few years later, with the advent of the Champions League.

Everything that has happened since, other than the emergence of a few oil fuelled clubs, is the consequence of those two events and whether or not a club happened to be one of those fortuitously well placed to take advantage at those specific moments.

Sadly, we were not one of those clubs. And every season since has been an almighty - and, thus far, vain - struggle to catch up.

Agreed with the rest of your post, though.

 

[millsey]

Agreed with this.

And if Dillon had made that the essence of his article - rather than the trolling nonsense about Spurs - it would have been worthwhile and, well.............relevant.

Agreed. I just don't watch much football bar Spurs these days. I used to watch every super Sunday ans Monday night footie. Doesn't excite me now

 

[talkshowhost86]

Spot on mate i havent enjoyed much football this year apart from 3/4 games as its been pedestrian and boring with a wanky defence that he cant improve one bit, last saturday playing 4 center backs wtf i thought he was trying to get the game abandoned.
As for consistantcy i think that started with jol as before then we were very much win one lose two type of team so that has improved at least.
I know that some on here today didnt like me agreeing with the journos comments but when the truth is there i have to be honest, although in the case of @talkshowhost86 he doesnt like my posting style and never has so made it clear he wanted me to Fuck off and support someone else, but that i will never do as the club is in my heart which is why i give them a hard time because i take my football seriously.
Least we dont have too long to see the back of this season and roll on to next which will probably be much of the same so not expecting much coys.

I didn't say that and you know it.

 

[VegasII]

Gotta say I'm bored shitless by football in general. It's wank. I only keep coming back because of Tottenham. And some of that is probably due to the humour and surrealness of SC.

 

[Setzthree]

After the reading the last page in this thread my life feels pointless


 

[shelfboy68]

I didn't say that and you know it.

It was in the wording my friend and you know it, Im too clever for that shit and old but you have had issues with me before and so i get it but least your honest i give you that something i admire.

 

[shelfboy68]

Nope.

Football exploded twenty years ago - firstly, with the advent of the Premier League and then, a few years later, with the advent of the Champions League.

Everything that has happened since, other than the emergence of a few oil fuelled clubs, is the consequence of those two events and whether or not a club happened to be one of those fortuitously well placed to take advantage at those specific moments.

Sadly, we were not one of those clubs. And every season since has been an almighty - and, thus far, vain - struggle to catch up.

Agreed with the rest of your post, though.

We will never catch up but what we can do is try to take some silver like another CC.

 

[double0]

It's time for the club to have some bulls and hold off from the sack culture. We now have a manager that has a purpose a method, is perpared to intergate our development players that will take time.
For me it's very simple The Club has to back the manager in the transfer market business needs to be done early so that new players can intergrate into the pre season. We've all seen our current players acquired from Bale's transfer just ain't up to the job....may I add that wasn't Poch fault.

 

[JohanTheYid]

They'll never be any of these things to me, so kindly go fuck yourself mr journo

 

[Metalhead]

The article started badly with the first 2 paragraphs. Only a suck up journalist could take Mourinho's nonsense seriously.

Skimmed the rest; boring, tedious and irrelevant really apply more to these kinds of articles than anything at the club. It's a great example of everything wrong with British sports journalism, ignoring the obvious issues with trying to compete at the top, we are apparently "irrelevant" and "boring" for consistently finishing a place or 2 off the top 4. Maybe a few relegation battles would be enough to keep the media interested but I'm far happier with our boring consistency than I would be if we joined Everton, Newcastle and Villa yo-yoing up and down the table from year to year.

That's the thing. Why pick on Spurs? Surely the same accusation could be levelled at most other clubs in the premier league?

 

[rich75]

Headline writer writes "irrelevant", SC self combusts despite the article actually saying :

"Slightly irrelevant and forgotten in the end of season shake-up, stumbling fitfully towards the end of the campaign and another inconvenient qualification for the Europa League."

Which would be exactly true, how relevant are we exactly in the "end of season shake-up" ?

 

[talkshowhost86]

I don't think anyone is throwing in the towel (I also don't think that we played exciting football under AVB at all, and Bale's exploits didn't change that).

It's like being hooked on a TV show. You've stuck with it through ups and downs, but now there's been several episodes in a row that have been a joyless experience. You still watched them, and you'll still watch them in the future, but you no longer actually look forward to it, and every new episode just serves to justify your apathy.

I suspect that this is the lull to be expected in the build-up to the new stadium. It certainly won't be boring to see the team walking out into our new home for the first time. However, everything is soooo flat right now. Yes it could change again, but at this moment in time things are a long way from being great, and the countless false dawns have been replaced by a total eclipse.

I don't think there's much point in people having a pop at others for declaring their indifference. We're still watching, we're still talking and thinking about the club. In terms of this forum in particular, it's the ones you don't notice any more that indicate how bland Spurs - and football in general - now is. Where's @Misfit gone? He was quite vocal about falling out of love with the game. Countless others have stopped posting altogether. Friends of mine that used to be obsessed with Spurs now sometimes don't even know when or who we're playing next. Beyond Spurs, I have a close friend who has been a lifelong Liverpool supporter since the 80s, but who stopped following them three years ago (even through their crack at the title last season). He goes to Bristol City games instead because he sees the Prem as little more than a case of measuring bank balances.

So I don't think it's just about Spurs. It's a bigger problem with how Sky, UEFA, and FIFA have pushed the game towards an elite few, which actively tries to make every team in every division irrelevant if they're not in the top four. It's created an increased indifference which can be found at clubs across the land.

Except at Chelsea and Oil Money of course. Those two soulless clubs will continue to purchase trophies for years to come.

I don't have a problem with people falling out of love with the game as a whole. I very much fall within that boat, and I'm just about young enough that in my time I haven't seen much else other than the Premier League but have still seen that decline in terms of competitiveness.

What I object to is this notion that Spurs have somehow done something wrong in all of this, that we've ballsed up somewhere along the way and that's the reason we are where we are, which for me simply isn't the case.

In this sense for me it's very much hate the game don't hate the player, and in the greater scheme of things as a club we've done as well as anyone outside the multi-billionaires which makes it seem odd to criticise the club generally.

I'm also not sure that I buy into this theory that some espouse that they'd be happy with us coming lower in the league if we were playing better football. I think it's a stick to beat the club with when the league position can't really be faulted, and if we were playing exciting football and properly in mid-table, people would generally be equally as furious.

 

[Spurger King]

I don't have a problem with people falling out of love with the game as a whole. I very much fall within that boat, and I'm just about young enough that in my time I haven't seen much else other than the Premier League but have still seen that decline in terms of competitiveness.

What I object to is this notion that Spurs have somehow done something wrong in all of this, that we've ballsed up somewhere along the way and that's the reason we are where we are, which for me simply isn't the case.

In this sense for me it's very much hate the game don't hate the player, and in the greater scheme of things as a club we've done as well as anyone outside the multi-billionaires which makes it seem odd to criticise the club generally.

I'm also not sure that I buy into this theory that some espouse that they'd be happy with us coming lower in the league if we were playing better football. I think it's a stick to beat the club with when the league position can't really be faulted, and if we were playing exciting football and properly in mid-table, people would generally be equally as furious.

I agree with the first part of your post. We haven't really done a lot wrong in terms of our effort to break into the top four. Apart from the gulf in finances, our problems have largely been down to signings (both managerial and players) that seemed good at the time, but which didn't turn out well. It does seem odd to lay into the club just a few weeks after we finally got the ball rolling on a brand new stadium.

I don't agree with the second part of your post. It's not that people would be happy for us to be entertaining but in mid-table, but over the course of the season it would be more enjoyable being a Spurs fan. If we were playing exciting football and around mid-table that would mean we'd be picking up wins with exciting football at least one in three games. That would certainly lift expectations and excitement ahead of home games as it would at least offer the possibility of going to see an entertaining game, rather than the predictable, somnambulating dross we see week in, week out.

In the past we never knew which Spurs would turn up, but at least they did turn up.