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mawspurs

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Leaving it late in the transfer window doesn't work... starting the season with Harry Kane as the only recognised striker is a disgrace.

Read the full article at Daily Mail
 

SteveH

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More to do with very bad purchases than lack of them.

we are now involved in a squad cleanup and will take at least another season to recover from. It will not be fixed this season!

but at least they are starting to rectify the matter!
 

TaoistMonkey

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"disgrace" despite Chadli being top scorer in about 7 or 8 teams if they had him.
 

greaves

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Leaving it late in the transfer window doesn't work... starting the season with Harry Kane as the only recognised striker is a disgrace.

Read the full article at Daily Mail


Hmm. Context-free bullshit, echoed across a number of sites in the last couple of days.
A micro-rant/alternative scenario:
The club has acted quickly to get in a new defence. I'm sure it was in their plans to deliberately ignore the strike force and leave it for as long as possible to find someone to replace the (as of recently) unsold Soldado and the hard-to-shift Ade. I mean, that's what you'd do, isn't it, as a club? Deliberately screw things up? Course it is.
This is not to say that Levy is not averse to brinkmanship and tough dealing (bloody nerve, I ask you), as infuriating as that can be. He won't be the only one like that in the footballing world (Aulas, Peace? F***ing idiots). He has become an off-the-peg myth and reference point for the prejudiced and the intellectually bereft/lazy. Pretty much your average Daily Mail reader.
Here's a possible thought. The target may be a striker such as Hernandez (it doesn't have to be him, please God literalists, it's just a f***ing analogy... Analogy... Ffs! Look it up!) And Spurs really want him - I don't know why - PL experience, goodish strike rate, good attitude/mentality? BUT - shock horror, this is where it gets tough to follow - he is being held onto by Van Gaal because he himself cannot secure the striker that he wants. Wow. Unbelievable. Difficult to conceptualise. And so Spurs (drum roll) have to wait.... That's right. Wait! It's a battle of nerves, yes, but that's what you do. Actually wait!!!
Hard for those with some sort of attention deficit disorder to grasp.
No. I didn't say it WAS Hernandez. it was an analogy! (slowly) Analogy.
Oh f*** off.
 

cliff jones

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not surprised many dont like the levy bashing but theres a lot of incontravertable evidence in the article.

he leaves it late mostly to get a better price, hes said so himself hasnt he?

sometimes the discount isnt worth the wait, or the consequences. but then we veer into opinion and sujectivity. the later than necessary signing of parker cost us way more than it saved that season imo. others differ.
 

nasescoba1985

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Not sure why people are annoyed with this article. The guy makes some good points and echoes the thoughts of so many of us Spurs supporters who are just about fed up of Daniel levy and the way he operates in the transfer market. I think its a disgrace we only have harry Kane as a recognised striker and we go into our 3rd game saturday. Clinton Njie is NOT a striker
 

SteveH

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not surprised many dont like the levy bashing but theres a lot of incontravertable evidence in the article.

he leaves it late mostly to get a better price, hes said so himself hasnt he?

sometimes the discount isnt worth the wait, or the consequences. but then we veer into opinion and sujectivity. the later than necessary signing of parker cost us way more than it saved that season imo. others differ.

All teams do it - Arsenal have only one fit striker and look at ManU. Liverpool have 6 of the buggers..........this media rubbish
 

Everlasting Seconds

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The article presupposes that directors & coaches are dealing with this specific season in mind. I think it's pretty obvious that they don't do that at all.
 

greaves

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Not sure why people are annoyed with this article. The guy makes some good points and echoes the thoughts of so many of us Spurs supporters who are just about fed up of Daniel levy and the way he operates in the transfer market. I think its a disgrace we only have harry Kane as a recognised striker and we go into our 3rd game saturday. Clinton Njie is NOT a striker

The thing is, we don't really know what goes on, what nearly comes off and why/why not, all those stupid little details that constitute real life. I think what I object to is a refusal to entertain complexity for the sake of good old kneejerk prejudice. I don't hold a candle for the man (Levy). But this sort of simplistic nonsense (which suggests and encourages the view that everything should go 'right' i.e. want player, daddy, buy player, daddy) is misleading and promotes an unhelpful (and unhealthy) attitude to life and how things might actually be. We are not of course privileged to know the ins and outs of targets, contracts. It's not in our gift, and neither should it be. If we were Man U (with one striker), and therefore winning, it wouldn't be an argument I suspect.
 

jolsnogross

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Closing the window the day before the season starts would stop this nonsense. Every manager has said they'd like this change, and I'm not at all sure why it hasn't been implemented. And for Spurs, it would help save us from ourselves.

There have been a rake of articles about the Spurs transfer window play book. And they're funny because they're true. It always leads to nauseating pro- and anti- Levy arguments on here. But the fact is we enter season after season with obvious gaps in some areas and overloaded with options in others. And sometimes we get away with it, while other times we don't.

We should save the discussion for later when we find out what our final squad is. But even with Berahino possibly coming in, there's a lot resting on Kane's fitness for the current games and for the entire season. It seems like poor squad management to run that risk, but maybe we'll get away with it.
 

HotspurFC1950

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I think it's more to do with seeing how we are going in actual EPL match situations to finalise our thoughts along with the selling club holding off.

If we have the silly money of the top 4 it would not matter. We would just go in and buy anyone we fancy.

Yes clubs other than top 4 have bought but so have we. Those other clubs may not have secured all that they may like to obtain as yet either.
 

sebo_sek

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Closing the window the day before the season starts would stop this nonsense. Every manager has said they'd like this change, and I'm not at all sure why it hasn't been implemented. And for Spurs, it would help save us from ourselves.

There have been a rake of articles about the Spurs transfer window play book. And they're funny because they're true. It always leads to nauseating pro- and anti- Levy arguments on here. But the fact is we enter season after season with obvious gaps in some areas and overloaded with options in others. And sometimes we get away with it, while other times we don't.

We should save the discussion for later when we find out what our final squad is. But even with Berahino possibly coming in, there's a lot resting on Kane's fitness for the current games and for the entire season. It seems like poor squad management to run that risk, but maybe we'll get away with it.
That is because every league starts on a different day. If the window were to close the day before the prem kicks off, the Spanish would feel hard done by, and rightly so.
 

The General

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All teams do it - Arsenal have only one fit striker and look at ManU. Liverpool have 6 of the buggers..........this media rubbish

Come on Steve, that's tosh. You seem one of the more reasoned yet entertaining posters on here even if you don't share my views on Balotelli as an exciting option for spurs, but Arsenal are in a totally different position to us. They have Giroud, Welbeck (injured at present I know), the young lad, plus Sanchez and Walcott who both have experience playing as strikers.

We drew on Saturday because we had no one to replace Kane. Chadli is not a striker and could not hold the ball up, leaving us facing wave after wave of attacks. The artical is bang on. It is a disgrace and fans have every right to be upset at history repeating itself.
 

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The article didn't once mentioned the word 'disgrace', but it's in the URL.

Since been amended to "short-sighted", when it was probably pointed out that we had 3 recognised strikers, just only one we wanted to field.
 
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while i admire levy for the training ground and the pending new stadium
we are gonna need a f**ckin good team to fill it regularly.
and it is the team which always suffers. lewis is just as much to blame
when the window shuts we would of played four games and dropped vital points , because the squad is in incomplete.
one striker goin into the season who we are now told is fatigued
levy this is embarrassing, but still profit before success
 

SteveH

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Come on Steve, that's tosh. You seem one of the more reasoned yet entertaining posters on here even if you don't share my views on Balotelli as an exciting option for spurs, but Arsenal are in a totally different position to us. They have Giroud, Welbeck (injured at present I know), the young lad, plus Sanchez and Walcott who both have experience playing as strikers.

We drew on Saturday because we had no one to replace Kane. Chadli is not a striker and could not hold the ball up, leaving us facing wave after wave of attacks. The artical is bang on. It is a disgrace and fans have every right to be upset at history repeating itself.

I strongly disagree - these mistakes were not made this summer. They were made when we wasted money on 'the like of' Saldodo and Lamela nearly £55m plus and nothing to do with this window. Whether by design which I doubt or bad advice, which I believe, we wasted £50m+ of the Bale money. Now we are trying to make good.
The Arsenal reference was more as an example of, 'even with all their money' getting the right players is bloody hard and not an exact art. There are very few clubs who are doing a great job 'at our level'.
saying that I rate Swansea's efforts this summer.

We will agree to disagree!
 
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The General

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I strong disagree - the mistake is not this summer. They were made when we wasted money on 'the like of' Saldodo and Lamela nearly £55m plus and nothing to do with this window. Whether by design which I doubt or bad advice, which I believe, we wasted £50m+ of the Bale money. Now we are trying to make good.

We will agree to disagree!

We don't need to agree to disagree, because I absolutely agree with you that wasting the Bale money on Soldado and Lamela and the rest that we bought (Chadli and Eriksen aside) that summer was massive mistake.

Going into a game against Stoke with only one striker was another mistake, but to my mind a more frustrating one because it's a mistake we make time and time again.
 

SteveH

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We don't need to agree to disagree, because I absolutely agree with you that wasting the Bale money on Soldado and Lamela and the rest that we bought (Chadli and Eriksen aside) that summer was massive mistake.

Going into a game against Stoke with only one striker was another mistake, but to my mind a more frustrating one because it's a mistake we make time and time again.

We are having to finesse the finances ATM. Getting shot of Bob meant we could start to address the striker mess 'Clint' was a start! now we need to get 'an other' whether Berahino or whoever.

I actually believe we are screwed money wise ATM and Levy is doing some fine juggling (bloody Ade is not helping - bless him) job. let us all remember the stadium commitments.

This 'Bale money cockup' is going to take us a couple of three seasons to put right or at least minimise the bad effect on our squad. Sadly the truth is I think we will be treading water big time this window. There will be happier times from next see forward because the new TV money will be a great help! But prices and wages will still be a problem for us pre stadium!
 
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