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Tottenham join the race to sign left back Rojo

mawspurs

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North London club Tottenham Hotspur have joined the race to sign Argentine defender Marcos Rojo, who is also a reported target of Liverpool.

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Gaz_Gammon

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This skid has a good game is young and in my opinion a better defender than Shaw and would cost a bundle less. I have read two or three different sources reporting this story so it may be true?
 
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Thi skid has a good game is young and in my opinion a better defender than Shaw and would cost a bundle less. I have read two or three different sources reporting this story so it may be true?
Tbf to shaw ... He's 18 not 24
He's got 6 years more to develop before he's at rojos age
 

greywizard2020

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Again, I would prefer us to look at the British options such as Davies at Swansea & Bertrand. These guys look reliable & in defence that consistency is key in establishing a platform to mount an assault on the top-four & championship honours.
 

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Rojo is actually a CB who can also be utilised at LB. Just an FYI.
;)
 

PeeEyeEmPee

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Again, I would prefer us to look at the British options such as Davies at Swansea & Bertrand. These guys look reliable & in defence that consistency is key in establishing a platform to mount an assault on the top-four & championship honours.
what, because they're British?
 

greywizard2020

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what, because they're British?
I always prefer examining the homegrown options before I would think about going down the foreign route. Its not new news that there is an overwhelming influx of foreign players that is stifling the emergence of our British players. However these aren't just British players, but they are good British players who have established themselves at this level, thus allowing, in theory, for them to settle into the team more quickly.

We really don't another season of players getting used to each other & acclimating to the league. We need to hit the ground running to establish a platform upon which we can mount an effective league & cup challenge.
 

PeeEyeEmPee

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I always prefer examining the homegrown options before I would think about going down the foreign route. Its not new news that there is an overwhelming influx of foreign players that is stifling the emergence of our British players. However these aren't just British players, but they are good British players who have established themselves at this level, thus allowing, in theory, for them to settle into the team more quickly.

We really don't another season of players getting used to each other & acclimating to the league. We need to hit the ground running to establish a platform upon which we can mount an effective league & cup challenge.
it's also not fact either, just the default Little Englander excuse whenever England crash out of a tournament.
 

greywizard2020

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it's also not fact either, just the default Little Englander excuse whenever England crash out of a tournament.
Perhaps, I should have phrased it a little better, but its hard argue that it hasn't affected the national team when the statistics of the situation are laid bare. In a study in October 2013 the proportion of English footballers playing last season was reported by the BBC as follows, "The figure - 32.26% - was down from 35.43% in 2007-08 and significantly lower than all other major European leagues, according to football statisticians Opta. In La Liga, Spaniards accounted for 59% of all minutes played. In the Bundesliga, Germans made up 50%."

In an interview with the BBC, England captain Steven Gerrard made the following observation regarding the current picture of the national team, "...we are not in a position of strength. The England manager and players need some help because this pool of players we pick from can't get any smaller and if anything it's got to grow. We have to get the balance right of still having the best league in the world but expanding the pool of players for this England manager and the England managers in the future."

Matthew Le Tissier, in an interview with the Mirror, alludes to the lack of consistent game time being a prevalent feature of the development current crop of young players eligible for the under-21 national team, "Nathaniel Clyne was the only member of that [under-21] side who played regular first-team football in the Premier League last season, which is not a great sign. The rest of them were mainly on loan in the Championship or struggling to get a place on the bench...You would hope that the best English players under 21 would be getting a game every week in the Premier League, but it’s not happening."

Even the usually 'out-of-touch' Sepp Blatter, was reported in the Telegraph, as saying: "You have in the key positions in the Premier League too many foreigners and not English players, so your national team is not yet, I have to say, is not yet at the level of these national teams [Spain, Italy and Germany]."

I'm not saying that a player ought to get an automatic pass just because of their birth-place because its important for these players to understand they need to work hard in order to earn a place in their respective first-teams. Nevertheless, these young players need to surely be at least given the opportunity to prove they are worthy of the shirt.

From what I've seen of Rojo, he is no better than Davies or Bertrand, hence my inclination would lean towards these players because of my original reasoning.
 

PeeEyeEmPee

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and yet in the 70s when 90% of the players here were English, England couldn't even make World Cups. England's most consistent run of form in the World Cup has been since the mass arrival of foreigners in the Premier League.

how much of Rojo would you say you've seen?
 

greywizard2020

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I appreciate the argument & it was certainly one of the arguments cited by journalists when Greg Dyke unveiled the blueprint for the national development, however it cannot hide the fact that those players of the 70's & 80's were still given the opportunity to succeed or fail; surely the current crop deserve that same opportunity.

Of Rojo I have only seen his performances in the World Cup, however if you have more credible intelligence, then I'd like to hear it. Is he worth the interest?
 

PeeEyeEmPee

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the world has moved on since then. being British is no longer enough on its own to guarantee you a chance. if you're considered good enough, you'll be given a chance, and if not then someone else will.

is a World Cup starting (for one of the main favourites) left-back worth the interest? I'd say so. I wouldn't call any intelligence I may have any more credible than yours either, by the way. I can't pretend to have any great indepth knowledge of the guy (or either of Davies or Bertrand, to be honest), but I've been aware of and seen him from before the World Cup and think he looks like a very good left-back that would improve the team. I just wouldn't automatically dismiss him or prioritise others over him solely based on nationality
 
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