Tottenham Riots & the NDP

[Daredevil]

Just thinking about all the talk of the NDP and despite the fact that Tottenham is one of the poorest areas in London, it has seemed so far impossible to get help from the public money to help us invest in the area.

Could was has happened over the weekend in some way end up helping our cause and give the Government a reason to rethink their position on investing in the Tottenham area?

There's no question that investment in the area is needed. More jobs would mean less knobs on the street with nothing to do but smash up cars and steal from shops. It would also show some decisive action from the Government to try and improve an area of London so heavily associated with the rioting - particularly with the Olympics not far away.

Just a thought I'd like to hear other opinion on.

 

[Spursking]

The Tottenham area is not very good at all. When going off at Seven Sisters, it seems to be like a very poor area. Hopefully The Club can help people around there to get a brand new local society. All the Tottenham fans and friends can live there togheter without no trouble. As it is now, I would never live in that area.

 

[JimmyG2]

Could go either way but the Club statement was good politics.
Leaving wrecked areas so close to the Olympic sites is not a good idea
. They may be forced to intervene and rebuild, starting with the NDP

But on the other hand they may just think 'sod it, why bother'

Think the rebuld idea is favourite,

 

[onthetwo]

ive thought all along that the council should be begging us to redevelop the Lane as the whole area is basically a large toilet and Spurs must be the largest commerical employer in the area by a factor of about 10...problem is they local council has got no cash and the govt has puked all its cash on the Olympics so not sure if this changes much at all.

 

[alextheyid]

ive thought all along that the council should be begging us to redevelop the Lane as the whole area is basically a large toilet and Spurs must be the largest commerical employer in the area by a factor of about 10...problem is they local council has got no cash and the govt has puked all its cash on the Olympics so not sure if this changes much at all.

Spot on mate.. bigger stadium and more jobs would sort a lot out!

 

[danielneeds]

The Tottenham area is not very good at all. When going off at Seven Sisters, it seems to be like a very poor area. Hopefully The Club can help people around there to get a brand new local society. All the Tottenham fans and friends can live there togheter without no trouble. As it is now, I would never live in that area.

I thought you would love the Tottenham area SK, there are more Africans living there than practically any other part of London...:grin:

 

[Mornstar]

There's no question that investment in the area is needed. More jobs would mean less knobs on the street with nothing to do but smash up cars and steal from shops. It would also show some decisive action from the Government to try and improve an area of London so heavily associated with the rioting - particularly with the Olympics not far away.

I don't think it's as straightforward as you make it sound.

 

[bigturnip]

Spot on mate.. bigger stadium and more jobs would sort a lot out!

A few extra jobs once every couple of weeks aren't going to go very far in sorting the problems of Tottenham out, in fact we've probably destroyed more jobs in all the businesses we've bought up and knocked down than we will ever create.

 

[Daredevil]

A few extra jobs once every couple of weeks aren't going to go very far in sorting the problems of Tottenham out, in fact we've probably destroyed more jobs in all the businesses we've bought up and knocked down than we will ever create.

I would certainly imagine jobs have been lost as a result of our buy-outs, but it's not just the club that would provide new jobs as a result of the NDP going through.

It's already been made clear that a host of other businesses would also come into the area as well.

I am hoping that what has happened over the last few days will at least give the Government a reason to re-think helping the NDP come to fruition.

 

[yusrisafri]

Being the shrewd and hardline businessman that he is, it mustve been DL who started the riots so as to open the eyes of the local council and govt.............














:razz:

 

[michaelden]

it reminds me of Robocop where the big developer starts the riots to get property prices low and scare hard core residents away so he can build his new super village.

 

[Daredevil]

I don't think it's as straightforward as you make it sound.

I'm not suggesting it's as straight-forward as that. The fact remains though that Tottenham has been one of the areas of London with the highest unemployment for a long time and has been crying out for investment.

With investment would come jobs, more money for the community and ultimately, whilst not solving the problem I think it would certainly help.

 

[sloth]

ive thought all along that the council should be begging us to redevelop the Lane as the whole area is basically a large toilet and Spurs must be the largest commerical employer in the area by a factor of about 10...problem is they local council has got no cash and the govt has puked all its cash on the Olympics so not sure if this changes much at all.

Somewhere in the Stadium thread I posted a link to a 30 page PDF of the plan the council drew up for redeveloping the Tottenham area.

Basically they worked out that to get the best bang for their tax-payers buck they should plough all available dosh into the Hale project and leave us to do up the High Road.

We're basically victims from being the only successful business in the whole area. By their rationale we have to redevelop, we are potentially rich enough to do the development privately so why not put the money into the Hale project and try and make that world-class and get the High Road fixed up for nothing into the bargain.

What was even worse was there appeared to be some regulation which meant because of the extra traffic and environmental harm which would result from the Hale development it would mean other areas of Tottenham have to reduce emissions for the borough to meet it's emission commitments. In short far from improving public access to WHL they want to make the area a designated "walking" area (lot's of public footpaths or some such) and carry out road narrowing schemes. Brilliant!

In fairness to them however, the majority of Spurs season ticket holders live outside the borough so if you've got the club over a barrel why not make them squeal? It's exactly the kind of wheeze Levy would probably try to pull if he were in their position.

Of course the whole plan blows up in their face if we move out of the area, because they've a void left on the High Road and no funds to do anything about it having spent it all on their Hale project.

Anyway, that was the gist, though bear in mind it's from memory and from a few months back so better look up the report yourselves if you want to gospel on it.

 

[Wellspurs]

DL a master of history aswell... It worked for Toxteth, Liverpool got shit loads of money thrown at it.

Panic on the streets of London, strange a tory being a Smiths fan?

 

[tommo84]

DL a master of history aswell... It worked for Toxteth, Liverpool got shit loads of money thrown at it.

Panic on the streets of London, strange a tory being a Smiths fan?

You're not alone - I'm a Tory Smiths fan too.

Off topic but, How soon is now = best intro ever!

 

[Wellspurs]

You're not alone - I'm a Tory Smiths fan too.

Off topic but, How soon is now = best intro ever!

Not me a tory, I'd rather be a gooner!!

I meant Cameron.

 

[aliyid]

I was thinking about this the other day too but will the impact be positive or negative on the NDP???

My initial thoughts were "great we're looking at redeveloping the area and now we can use NDP to set the ball rolling" but the more I think about it I'm not sure...

The council will only have a set amount of money to put towards community redevelopment and now that the riots have destroyed a large area the pot of money is more likely to go towards redeveloping that area rather than towards NDP.

I'm not sure there would be enough in the pot to give us a lump and also ensure that repairs are done :shrug:

The only way I can see that we would get the money is if this area is included in the proposed redevelopment for NDP but I don't know the finer details to be confident that it is.

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

Being the shrewd and hardline businessman that he is, it mustve been DL who started the riots so as to open the eyes of the local council and govt.............


:razz:

No - if it had been Levy a certain 4 Victorian houses would have been at the centre of the blaze

 

[Spursking]

It will be harder for Tottenham to attract players because of the riots, I think.

 

[SpurSince57]

It will be harder for Tottenham to attract players because of the riots, I think.

We don't ask them to live in the borough, you know. :roll: