Tottenham 'set to move for Jerome Boateng after opening talks'

[Japhet]

We must be having some pretty specific talks with our new Manager if he's identifying transfer targets already.

 

[TheChosenOne]

I am not going to pretend to know much about this particular target. But I think a few Naybet and David type signings are something we haven't done anywhere near enough.

An experienced leader to help the likes of Rodon on a short deal would be great.

I remember Cambiasso playing for Leicester on a 1 year deal the season we played Mason and Bentaleb throughout the season. That signing might have got us CL football that season.

You will of course know his brother ?

 

[TonyK]

So what do we reckon would be the main rationale behind signing Boateng? Would it be because he is the best man for the job? Or would it be the fact that he is available on a free transfer??

Until our current owners either show some actual ambition or bugger off, then we are going absolutely nowhere.

 

[TonyK]

Will this nightmare never end?

Only when ENIC do one!!

 

[VegasII]

So what do we reckon would be the main rationale behind signing Boateng? Would it be because he is the best man for the job? Or would it be the fact that he is available on a free transfer??

Until our current owners either show some actual ambition or bugger off, then we are going absolutely nowhere.

 

[dontcallme]

So what do we reckon would be the main rationale behind signing Boateng? Would it be because he is the best man for the job? Or would it be the fact that he is available on a free transfer??

Until our current owners either show some actual ambition or bugger off, then we are going absolutely nowhere.

Free transfers are often not the most cost effective signings.

You sign them for free but then they have a signing on fee, a high salary and no sell on value.

The transfer fee is often an investment. If we buy a younger player who performs well we will often be able to sell on for a profit plus the salary will likely be cheaper.

Think back to when we wanted Jo Cole on a free but got VDV instead. Jo Cole was on a higher salary and left on a free so no profit. VDV was bought for £7m and sold for £10.5m.

If your post was a shot at Levy it was a very weak one.

 

[Styopa]

The final piece of the jigsaw?

 

[TonyK]

Free transfers are often not the most cost effective signings.

You sign them for free but then they have a signing on fee, a high salary and no sell on value.

The transfer fee is often an investment. If we buy a younger player who performs well we will often be able to sell on for a profit plus the salary will likely be cheaper.

Think back to when we wanted Jo Cole on a free but got VDV instead. Jo Cole was on a higher salary and left on a free so no profit. VDV was bought for £7m and sold for £10.5m.

If your post was a shot at Levy it was a very weak one.

My point was that actually improving the team never seems to be top of the agenda when it comes to signing players. If Jose wants Skriniar as has been widely reported, then Levy should do his very best to get him in. Not sign an aging, injury prone CB just to make do because he won’t cost a transfer fee. To dare is too dear really does sum our owners up perfectly.

 

[dontcallme]

My point was that actually improving the team never seems to be top of the agenda when it comes to signing players. If Jose wants Skriniar as has been widely reported, then Levy should do his very best to get him in. Not sign an aging, injury prone CB just to make do because he won’t cost a transfer fee. To dare is too dear really does sum our owners up perfectly.

I don't think the intention is not focused on improving the team.

After several seasons of not buying anyone we have been in catch up mode. In the last 2 seasons we have signed 9 first team squad players plus loans for Bale and Vinicius.

It wasn't really the time to be putting all of our money into one signing. Of Skriniar was so easily available I am sure someone would have nought him anyway.

But once again if we sign Boateng on a 2 year deal this will cost us a fair amount of money in salary and there's no way we can sell him. So the idea that a free transfer on a high salary is a cheap option is a massively flawed concept.

Just look at how much Bale's loan has cost us.

 

[TonyK]

I don't think the intention is not focused on improving the team.

After several seasons of not buying anyone we have been in catch up mode. In the last 2 seasons we have signed 9 first team squad players plus loans for Bale and Vinicius.

It wasn't really the time to be putting all of our money into one signing. Of Skriniar was so easily available I am sure someone would have nought him anyway.

But once again if we sign Boateng on a 2 year deal this will cost us a fair amount of money in salary and there's no way we can sell him. So the idea that a free transfer on a high salary is a cheap option is a massively flawed concept.

Just look at how much Bale's loan has cost us.

I’m really not getting your point. All professional footballers tend to be on high salaries so none of them will be cheap per say. But signing an older player say on 100k per week will still be cheaper than paying 100k per week plus 25m up front on a transfer fee for a younger player. The difference being that the manager gets the player that he wants rather than someone he doesn’t want due to a transfer decision based purely upon cost. Which generally tends to be the case with ENIC. Ryan Nielsen and Louis Saha being two perfect examples of Levy trying to do things on the cheap!

 

[dontcallme]

I’m really not getting your point. All professional footballers tend to be on high salaries so none of them will be cheap per say. But signing an older player say on 100k per week will still be cheaper than paying 100k per week plus 25m up front on a transfer fee for a younger player. The difference being that the manager gets the player that he wants rather than someone he doesn’t want due to a transfer decision based purely upon cost. Which generally tends to be the case with ENIC.

Well first of all if you look at the ageing players on free transfers their salaries are astronomical. Much higher than the norm.

Second of all, there is zero sell on value.

Look at the player signings we have made over the years. Overall we have sold players for much more than we bought them for. The ones we have made losses on are absolutely dwarfed by the likes of Carrick, Modric, Berbatov, Bale, Walker etc.

Free transfers are a pure loss of money.

We buy Skriniar for £50m then there's always a strong possibility we can recoup our money in 2-3 years or make a profit. I can;t think of a single player who has been bought on a free then sold for a profit.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

So what do we reckon would be the main rationale behind signing Boateng? Would it be because he is the best man for the job? Or would it be the fact that he is available on a free transfer??

Until our current owners either show some actual ambition or bugger off, then we are going absolutely nowhere.

We ,surely must lose two central defenders out of Sanchez,Dier and Toby so will need two in. With limited money ,spending a biggish sum on one and the other on a free makes sense.

 

[TonyK]

We ,surely must lose two central defenders out of Sanchez,Dier and Toby so will need two in. With limited money ,spending a biggish sum on one and the other on a free makes sense.

I agree but Levy will think it’s job done if he gets Boateng on a free. We still need a bit of quality at CB and that will involve spending a few quid. I actually think we might not be looking too bad next season if we can sort the CB positions and keep the majority of the rest of the squad.

 

[C0YS]

If true that just about sums up the clubs ambition. A freebie vet.

Whose still a very good player who could help the side. I'm not against this at all. Particularly considering the kind of window we are likely to have. I'd like another CB as well, but as an option makes a lot of sense.

 

[rossdapep]

Whose still a very good player who could help the side. I'm not against this at all. Particularly considering the kind of window we are likely to have. I'd like another CB as well, but as an option makes a lot of sense.

Exactly, an experienced stop-gap until we can go get another next summer. Andersen & Boateng for now.

 

[rossdapep]

....and both brothers would have played for us

 

[C0YS]

My point was that actually improving the team never seems to be top of the agenda when it comes to signing players. If Jose wants Skriniar as has been widely reported, then Levy should do his very best to get him in. Not sign an aging, injury prone CB just to make do because he won’t cost a transfer fee. To dare is too dear really does sum our owners up perfectly.

I think we didn't want Skinriar as much as Inter wanted us to take Skinriar for Ndombele. But that's speculation. There is no way we'd have spent the 40 million asking price, or any other team for that matter. They were clearly trying to promote the swap, it seems we weren't convinced that the swap suited our interest, I think long term keeping Ndombele will prove to be the right decision.

There is nothing wrong with a freebie experienced signing and it can work very well. The reality is few to no clubs are going to spending serious money this window, and it's not a bad short term solution that can be revisited once football restabilises after this covid mess.

 

[Shadydan]

So what do we reckon would be the main rationale behind signing Boateng? Would it be because he is the best man for the job? Or would it be the fact that he is available on a free transfer??

Until our current owners either show some actual ambition or bugger off, then we are going absolutely nowhere.

Imagine actually believing this rumour.

 

[Meercat]

Seriously guys I would ignore any new names being linked. There's no way we start going after new targets with a limited budget when a new manager isn't i100% n place.

this is exactly what I’ve been thinking for a few weeks, with the exception of a maybe star who would work for multiple managers it just seems crazy to be tying up money on someone the new guy (assuming we do get a new guy) doesn’t have a use for.