Tottenham Takeover Talk

[Stamford]

I personally don't want to win the lottery, no. As for luck, you're the one who brought that up. Judging by your post, it doesn't count when you're lucky.

You mentioned luck numerous times in your initial post that he's replying to.

 

[Dazzazzad]

Not disagreeing with you in terms of numbers. I'm talking more about intent. We sign players because we have to. 'Pool sign players just because they want to win.

I don't see anything in our transfer strategy (yet) that says to me otherwise. Hopefully it does change and we start to sign quality to improve the whole squad but it's not the case at the moment.

Intent can do one. Our big money buys prove money does not translate to a successful signing.

Gimme Bents, Vicario, Biss, Madders, Udogie, Sarr - smart signings - over "intent" every day of the week.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

I am more concerned that another football expert left (Gabbianini) because of the relationship with the board

 

[Tucker]

I am more concerned that another football expert left (Gabbianini) because of the relationship with the board

We don’t know that is why he left.

 

[McFlash]

Amazing thinking going on.... a few short months ago many wanted a take over ...even from Qatar....suddenly we joint top of the log after 8 games and so many are turning their noses up.... damn we are a fickle bunch.

Anyway... regardless I'd welcome owners with deep pockets who will allow us to compete for the best players. It's a romantic notion that we will compete with money clubs like United, City, Chelsea, Newcastle, Arsenal to a degree for the best talent with only our stadium revenue and Enic.

As long as we keep football people in charge of the football side, we don't need to be competing for the mega-stars.
Just look at the talent we've bought in over the past couple of windows, more than decent enough to compete with anyone and without spending 80m on any one player.

I do kinda like our way of nurturing talent and having players step up to the next level with us, rather than buying them 'ready made'.
It's more satisfying...as long as we do it right and stick to it.

If we can keep a plan in mind and ensure we hire people who fully buy into it, we can get hold of the talent just before it becomes "world class".

 

[mil1lion]

As long as we keep football people in charge of the football side, we don't need to be competing for the mega-stars.
Just look at the talent we've bought in over the past couple of windows, more than decent enough to compete with anyone and without spending 80m on any one player.

I do kinda like our way of nurturing talent and having players step up to the next level with us, rather than buying them 'ready made'.
It's more satisfying...as long as we do it right and stick to it.

If we can keep a plan in mind and ensure we hire people who fully buy into it, we can get hold of the talent just before it becomes "world class".

This is what we do best. The issue is that we have never kept them when they become world class and continued to develop more world class players. As soon as we sell a Bale, Modric or a Kane we then find ourselves waiting time to develop a replacement. Our world class developed world class players are very much few and far between. It's asking a lot to develop all the time and have enough quality in depth. We still need to also be able to identify a clear quality player who will improve us immediately and spend the money. The squad now is like the early days under Poch, a lot of young talent and a very strong team. Once we're back in Europe we need a good deal more as the squad ultimately fell short under Poch and I think was the primary reason we didn't win anything. We've seen Arsenal spend 100m+ on a player developed by West Ham, Liverpool on a player developed by Brighton and yet we never really do it unless they're cheap enough due to contract length. That's the biggest difference for me. The best teams who win multiple titles are the ones who sign prime players at their best. The ones who typically fall short are the ones who develop those players to be sold to them.

If we can keep the scouting of high prospects going but also add the odd ready made player I think we'll take the next step. If we couldn't win things under Poch I'm not sure how likely it is we do it now. Maybe Ange will be a level above but then the competition is tougher now too compared to what it was under Poch. It's less and less realistic to win things without big spending.

 

[piedpiper]

As long as we keep football people in charge of the football side, we don't need to be competing for the mega-stars.
Just look at the talent we've bought in over the past couple of windows, more than decent enough to compete with anyone and without spending 80m on any one player.

I do kinda like our way of nurturing talent and having players step up to the next level with us, rather than buying them 'ready made'.
It's more satisfying...as long as we do it right and stick to it.

If we can keep a plan in mind and ensure we hire people who fully buy into it, we can get hold of the talent just before it becomes "world class".

Agree with most of what you saying.... I feel the same...except it hasn't and won't win us trophies. The romantic notion of doing it the right way no longer applies the landscape has changed.

 

[LondonOllie]

Amazing thinking going on.... a few short months ago many wanted a take over ...even from Qatar....suddenly we joint top of the log after 8 games and so many are turning their noses up.... damn we are a fickle bunch.

Anyway... regardless I'd welcome owners with deep pockets who will allow us to compete for the best players. It's a romantic notion that we will compete with money clubs like United, City, Chelsea, Newcastle, Arsenal to a degree for the best talent with only our stadium revenue and Enic.

I can’t talk for others, but I’ve been very consistent on this. No thank you. I suspect the majority of others have too.

 

[McFlash]

This is what we do best. The issue is that we have never kept them when they become world class and continued to develop more world class players. As soon as we sell a Bale, Modric or a Kane we then find ourselves waiting time to develop a replacement. Our world class developed world class players are very much few and far between. It's asking a lot to develop all the time and have enough quality in depth. We still need to also be able to identify a clear quality player who will improve us immediately and spend the money. The squad now is like the early days under Poch, a lot of young talent and a very strong team. Once we're back in Europe we need a good deal more as the squad ultimately fell short under Poch and I think was the primary reason we didn't win anything. We've seen Arsenal spend 100m+ on a player developed by West Ham, Liverpool on a player developed by Brighton and yet we never really do it unless they're cheap enough due to contract length. That's the biggest difference for me. The best teams who win multiple titles are the ones who sign prime players at their best. The ones who typically fall short are the ones who develop those players to be sold to them.

If we can keep the scouting of high prospects going but also add the odd ready made player I think we'll take the next step. If we couldn't win things under Poch I'm not sure how likely it is we do it now. Maybe Ange will be a level above but then the competition is tougher now too compared to what it was under Poch. It's less and less realistic to win things without big spending.

Hopefully, with the facilities we now have, we'll be less likely to have players seeing us as a stepping stone.
Instead, they'll see us as a great club and a place to make home, while competing at the highest level.
We just need to keep on the course we've seemingly set.

 

[McFlash]

Agree with most of what you saying.... I feel the same...except it hasn't and won't win us trophies. The romantic notion of doing it the right way no longer applies the landscape has changed.

Yeah, the trophy thing is always going to be the elephant in the room, even after we win something.
But there are only so many trophies to be won and as long as we're properly competing for them, it should keep most but the very top talents happy.

If we can continue to build the squad in the way that we have recently, it's not going to be long before we can look at adding that cherry in each window.
Instead of having to buy several players each window with our budget of, say, 100m, we could use that money to splurge on one big talent.

I wasn't saying that I don't want to be competing for the Bellingham's of the game, just that I'm happy to keep building towards that stage organically.

I don't want us to be selling our top talent, I want us to be building on it and hopefully, the stadium and everything else will put us in the position to do so.

We need to keep this positivity going and ensure that this is a club that players want to be involved in. They want to come here and enjoy themselves, while competing at the highest level.

 

[jay2040]

I personally would rather support a team in League 2 than contribute to sports washing.

Each to their own I guess. I would still support team. I think its just evolution of the game with foreign ownership.

 

[HodisGawd]

That f*** it ain't happening.

ENIC may not be perfect, but they're not Qatar.

 

[Pochemon94]

It's not going to happen, but if QSI or whatever its called takes us over. The only thing I would really worry about is a rebrand. I don't want some new logo like City got. They must keep with our traditions and ethos which is what made me fall in love with club to begin with

 

[Hotspur88]

I wonder what the responses to these rumours would be if we were currently mid table, playing average football looking like another season of mediocrity.

I understand some concerns over where the investment is coming from and I agree to parts of the arguments. However the fact of the matter is yes we've gone close on a few occasions, but the trophy cabinet is still pretty bare and hasn't had anything added to it for 15 YEARS! We have incredible facilities, we are based in London and the Academy now seems to be on track. Any outside investment would purely need to invest in the Men's & Women's first teams and the academy. We are a very attractive proposition to investors and we would cost far less than what he offered for UTD.

The fact of the matter is, Chelsea have won shit loads due to investment, so have City and now Newcastle will start winning things. Their fans don't really give a shit who the owners are.

 

[kursaal]

I wonder what the responses to these rumours would be if we were currently mid table, playing average football looking like another season of mediocrity.

I understand some concerns over where the investment is coming from and I agree to parts of the arguments. However the fact of the matter is yes we've gone close on a few occasions, but the trophy cabinet is still pretty bare and hasn't had anything added to it for 15 YEARS! We have incredible facilities, we are based in London and the Academy now seems to be on track. Any outside investment would purely need to invest in the Men's & Women's first teams and the academy. We are a very attractive proposition to investors and we would cost far less than what he offered for UTD.

The fact of the matter is, Chelsea have won shit loads due to investment, so have City and now Newcastle will start winning things. Their fans don't really give a shit who the owners are.

Is it a realistic possibility they will invest or simply wishful thinking? I wouldnt have a problem with their invest.

 

[Timbo Tottenham]

I wonder what the responses to these rumours would be if we were currently mid table, playing average football looking like another season of mediocrity.

I understand some concerns over where the investment is coming from and I agree to parts of the arguments. However the fact of the matter is yes we've gone close on a few occasions, but the trophy cabinet is still pretty bare and hasn't had anything added to it for 15 YEARS! We have incredible facilities, we are based in London and the Academy now seems to be on track. Any outside investment would purely need to invest in the Men's & Women's first teams and the academy. We are a very attractive proposition to investors and we would cost far less than what he offered for UTD.

The fact of the matter is, Chelsea have won shit loads due to investment, so have City and now Newcastle will start winning things. Their fans don't really give a shit who the owners are.

I think the poll at the top says it all, that was from January. I still voted “no” fwiw.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Is it a realistic possibility they will invest or simply wishful thinking? I wouldnt have a problem with their invest.

I don't think it is possible at this moment especially after Solomon's Instagram post

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I wonder what the responses to these rumours would be if we were currently mid table, playing average football looking like another season of mediocrity.

I understand some concerns over where the investment is coming from and I agree to parts of the arguments. However the fact of the matter is yes we've gone close on a few occasions, but the trophy cabinet is still pretty bare and hasn't had anything added to it for 15 YEARS! We have incredible facilities, we are based in London and the Academy now seems to be on track. Any outside investment would purely need to invest in the Men's & Women's first teams and the academy. We are a very attractive proposition to investors and we would cost far less than what he offered for UTD.

The fact of the matter is, Chelsea have won shit loads due to investment, so have City and now Newcastle will start winning things. Their fans don't really give a shit who the owners are.

*some fans don’t give a shit who the owners are.

I do. I’m not comfortable having owners who have no interest in the club other than to use it as part of a sports washing project to wash their public image of values that are quite frankly medieval and barbaric. But hey if you’re comfortable with owners who persecute gay people, restrict women’s rights, or dismember journalists that speak out against their practices, just so your can see spurs win a couple trophies, that’s on you. What I want to know, where is the line with all this? Would fans be happy with convicted peadophiles as owners if they promised to spend silly money? Where is the line of morality? Or are football fans so tribal that morals are secondary?

This is not all directed at you personally by the way. I just find it astounding that fans are willing to dismiss all sorts of disgusting behaviour just because it doesn’t personally affect their day to day life, and it means they can banter rival mates if we become successful. It could never be me.

 

[fecka]

I wonder what the responses to these rumours would be if we were currently mid table, playing average football looking like another season of mediocrity.

I understand some concerns over where the investment is coming from and I agree to parts of the arguments. However the fact of the matter is yes we've gone close on a few occasions, but the trophy cabinet is still pretty bare and hasn't had anything added to it for 15 YEARS! We have incredible facilities, we are based in London and the Academy now seems to be on track. Any outside investment would purely need to invest in the Men's & Women's first teams and the academy. We are a very attractive proposition to investors and we would cost far less than what he offered for UTD.

The fact of the matter is, Chelsea have won shit loads due to investment, so have City and now Newcastle will start winning things. Their fans don't really give a shit who the owners are.

All fair points.

However, most of us would welcome new owners, but the ones I and many others would want, are more or less unicorns. Which billionaire out there is not morally ambiguous and has deep enough pockets to not only buy us but also invest significantly in the team? About the only ones currently investing those large sums of money are foreign despots with shady money from sportswashing national funds like PIF or QSI. Because of our strong Jewish connection, I struggle to see a Middle Eastern investor showing more than tentative interest, and Russian and Chinese investors are leaving the game because of reasons. All of them would leave a bad taste if they became our owners and it would certainly test me.

My guess is that we will be stuck with ENIC for the foreseeable future.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

To guarantee winning trophies via a sugar daddy you need to either be the only team in the league with a sugar daddy (chelsea) or have a considerably richer sugar daddy than everyone else (city).......in future years I really don't see chelsea or newcastle profiting too much in trophies via their mega money models unless they are prepared to blow city out of the water......and this is the issue we would have too - a sugar daddy model would only be good for keeping up with the joneses, whereas a legitimate football model will do that without blood on our hands.