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Would you welcome a 25% ownership stake for Qatar Sports Investments (QSI)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 655 65.2%
  • No

    Votes: 350 34.8%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .

SirHarryHotspur

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Can we work out how much a share is worth? I have some. Might hit the town
Very rough guestimate using the Chelsea sale as a guide , it was reported by Sky as a £4.25 billion sale and Chelsea do not even own the freehold of their own stadium which doesn't have the future earnings potential of The Lane. In fact is there a stadium or sports arena in the UK that earns what The Lane is bringing in per customer.

I'm guessing Levy would want somewhere near that figure and as he stands to get approx 25% of any sale, a sale of £4 billion would give his family trust a handy £1 billion.

There are a total of 229,043,149 shares in Spurs according to companies house papers so divide £4 billion by the share total and you get approx £17.46 per share.
All guesswork of course.

 
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danielneeds

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ENIC have been here over 20 years so we will get a takeover at some point. It's not like it will never happen and if it does they'll have been here longer than most owners. Even with Levy he will want to retire at some point. I could see him staying a while longer as we transition but we will have a next owner.
There’s nothing to say Levy’s son isn’t being groomed to takeover. He did training in the city and has taken on Tavistock duties.
 
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Worthy

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Very rough guestimate using the Chelsea sale as a guide , it was reported by Sky as a £4.25 billion sale and Chelsea do not even own the freehold of their own stadium which doesn't have the future earnings potential of The Lane. In fact is there a stadium or sports arena in the UK that earns what The Lane is bringing in per customer.

I'm guessing Levy would want somewhere near that figure and as he stands to get approx 25% of any sale, a sale of £4 billion would give his family trust a handy £1 billion.

There are a total of 229,043,149 shares in Spurs according to companies house papers so divide £4 billion by the share total and you get approx £17.46 per share.
All guesswork of course.

I’ve got 250 shares my sister bought me for Christmas one year. I was on the fence about a takeover being a good idea or not, but if there’s a potential £3,500 in it for me, I’m all aboard the takeover train!
 

SirHarryHotspur

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I’ve got 250 shares my sister bought me for Christmas one year. I was on the fence about a takeover being a good idea or not, but if there’s a potential £3,500 in it for me, I’m all aboard the takeover train!
Not enough to get you into The H Club on the 4th floor :)
 

TOLBINY

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We don't know who or even if there is anyone close to making an offer. But if there is, I would like to think it is on the baiss that the see the club is on a upward tracjectory. I accept that Levy / ENIC will pricce that into the negotiations, but one would hope a buyer is only looking to take us onwards and upwards, given the potential that still remains both on and off the pitch, rather than assest strip.
 

Westmorlandspur

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Very rough guestimate using the Chelsea sale as a guide , it was reported by Sky as a £4.25 billion sale and Chelsea do not even own the freehold of their own stadium which doesn't have the future earnings potential of The Lane. In fact is there a stadium or sports arena in the UK that earns what The Lane is bringing in per customer.

I'm guessing Levy would want somewhere near that figure and as he stands to get approx 25% of any sale, a sale of £4 billion would give his family trust a handy £1 billion.

There are a total of 229,043,149 shares in Spurs according to companies house papers so divide £4 billion by the share total and you get approx £17.46 per share.
All guesswork of course.

That 4.25 bn is not correct. They agreed on 2.5 bn and pledged to spend 1.75m on infrastructure and the squad.. Whether they do what they say is another matter.We are worth a lot more as we own ground, new stadium , non football events etc etc.
Believe it when it happens.
 

Westmorlandspur

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With Paratici and Lange I think we could turn up the dial and hit well. I appreciate our experience with big money signings and Man United’s joke scouting but City and more recently Arsenal have shown how to do it and make it work.
Arsenal have spent over 600m in 4 years. Very little back, Xhaka and Balugun for about 50m are all I can think of. It is said Chelsea have spent a billion but they have sold a number of players for large @mounts. A few to Saudi as well. Would think they have got back 200 to 300m. Not that much difference to Arsenal really. City are different as they have sold lots of players for decent money.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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That 4.25 bn is not correct. They agreed on 2.5 bn and pledged to spend 1.75m on infrastructure and the squad.. Whether they do what they say is another matter.We are worth a lot more as we own ground, new stadium , non football events etc etc.
Believe it when it happens.
Just goes to prove I shouldn't rely on headlines and read further down. So higher than 2,5bn but not as much as United at £5 bn yet, however, growth potential at Spurs is higher if only they could win the PL .
Levy has something in the pipeline , they want to extend major events to 30 from 16 at the stadium so what is it , NFL franchise ???? that will add even more value.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Levy has something in the pipeline , they want to extend major events to 30 at the stadium so what is it , NFL franchise ????

I see references to a NFL franchise pop up from time to time - but I hope people realize nobody is "given" an NFL franchise.

An ownership group could apply when the NFL decides to expand - but the last time the NFL expanded, the fee was $700M in 2002. Now, the fee would be in the multi-Billions.

So, Spurs are not getting an NFL franchise, and it's unlikely Lewis would invest that kind of money now. And, if you are looking at a new owner for Spurs - having to buy Spurs at a $4.5B valuation, and then on top of that pay $2-3B for an NFL franchise - well, that also seems unlikely.


None of this is to say that Levy is not preparing to make the stadium the home stadium for an NFL team based in London - there really is no other viable options - but other than rent, it probably won't be a revenue generating option for Spurs.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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I see references to a NFL franchise pop up from time to time - but I hope people realize nobody is "given" an NFL franchise.

An ownership group could apply when the NFL decides to expand - but the last time the NFL expanded, the fee was $700M in 2002. Now, the fee would be in the multi-Billions.

So, Spurs are not getting an NFL franchise, and it's unlikely Lewis would invest that kind of money now. And, if you are looking at a new owner for Spurs - having to buy Spurs at a $4.5B valuation, and then on top of that pay $2-3B for an NFL franchise - well, that also seems unlikely.


None of this is to say that Levy is not preparing to make the stadium the home stadium for an NFL team based in London - there really is no other viable options - but other than rent, it probably won't be a revenue generating option for Spurs.
Agree ENIC will not be shelling out money like that, there were rumours about Khan & Jacksonville relocating but with all the travelling thousands of miles seems a bit ambitious.

Has to be something with 14 extra events possibly being applied for , maybe the Women are leaving Brisbane Rd and coming to The Lane.

The stadium at the moment hasn't hosted the full 16 other events but with NFL, Concerts, stadium tours etc has generated £30 million revenue as shown in the last accounts, compare that to a full seasons matchday revenue at Everton or Villa both under £20 million. If we are going to host 30 other events then that £30 million figure is going to rocket.
 
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JW72

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With Ange having the final say..
New owner revealed...

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Westmorlandspur

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Just goes to prove I shouldn't rely on headlines and read further down. So higher than 2,5bn but not as much as United at £5 bn yet, however, growth potential at Spurs is higher if only they could win the PL .
Levy has something in the pipeline , they want to extend major events to 30 from 16 at the stadium so what is it , NFL franchise ???? that will add even more value.
Of he is wanting more concerts it won't be easy to fit all those in. Even if you have 3 per week it's only mainly June and July you can have them.not sure the council would wear that many. Unless he starts fitting them in on blank weeks between home games in may and August. Interesting to know what they take for a concert. Those financial results are due anytime, Def before end of march.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Of he is wanting more concerts it won't be easy to fit all those in. Even if you have 3 per week it's only mainly June and July you can have them.not sure the council would wear that many. Unless he starts fitting them in on blank weeks between home games in may and August. Interesting to know what they take for a concert. Those financial results are due anytime, Def before end of march.
He has something , I think it was at the fan forum last September that he said there would be more announcements over the next 12 months or so on the stadium.
Your right about fitting them in , the close season for football last 12 weeks May to August there is only so much you can fit in with concerts and I assume different artists need different stages, lighting etc is it possible to do weekly concerts and there is the opposition of Wembley etc and are there enough major tours doing the rounds.
That leaves the weekends excluding NFL weeks during the football season when the 1st team are away to stage something.
 

DogsOfWar

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There 's still plenty left in terms of growth with the Goods Yard development, Hotel and apartments, Naming Rights, 14 extra events, full financial effect of the karting track etc.
And if we could actually win a trophy as well our commercial value would also rise.

I can see Lewis/Levy sticking around for another couple of years unless someone is prepared to break the bank for us.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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There 's still plenty left in terms of growth with the Goods Yard development, Hotel and apartments, Naming Rights, 14 extra events, full financial effect of the karting track etc.
And if we could actually win a trophy as well our commercial value would also rise.

I can see Lewis/Levy sticking around for another couple of years unless someone is prepared to break the bank for us.
In this Bloomberg interview Levy basically rules out naming rights any time soon as he feels that the Tottenham Hotspur name attached to the stadium increases our name around the world and grows the fanbase. Bigger fan base means bigger brand name and he can start competing even with Man U and Liverpool on the commercial side with sponsors/partners etc.
Also pointed out by someone is that even though the Goods Yard has the Spurs name attached to it in all the publicity , it and many properties to the west of the High Rd are actually in the name of TH Property Ltd a Bahamas based company owned by ENIC and doesn't come under the umbrella of Tottenham Hotspur Ltd but in any sale you would assume it would all be bundled together. The hotel etc do come under Tottenham Hotspur Ltd.
As you say I don't see Levy going , he states he has no interest in going in the interview.

 
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